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hail2dking 04-25-11 11:03 AM

Re: RUMOR - Next Nintendo Console to Be Announced at E3 2011
 

Originally Posted by Decker (Post 10739242)
This might just be the best system ever, but I'll tell you : I didn't just buy a 60 in LED HDTV to have to keep looking down at the little screen on my controller. Maybe for local multiplayer Madden, but otherwise not feeling it yet.

You have to think of the bigger picture...no more trying to find a hiding spot or hitting the pause button when you have to drop a duece. You can game on the (or as you) go.

hail2dking 04-25-11 11:10 AM

Re: RUMOR - Next Nintendo Console to Be Announced at E3 2011
 

Originally Posted by GizmoDVD (Post 10739995)
Yeah, but if the Controllers are real, those will be pretty freakin' expensive. I'm game either way.

They could always put some sort of memory storage in each controller (and a cpu). They can sell mobile games for it and give the controller multiple uses. You can use it on the Wii2, or use it as a replacement to the DS. They could probably sell those for $150 each no problem.

kgrogers1979 04-25-11 01:54 PM

Re: RUMOR - Next Nintendo Console to Be Announced at E3 2011
 
I don't know if these "leaked" pics are real or fake, but surely they can't be the final product since there are no ports, plug-ins, ventilation holes, or anything on them.

http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/8806/leaked1.jpg

http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/9176/leaked2.jpg

pinata242 04-25-11 02:00 PM

Re: RUMOR - Next Nintendo Console to Be Announced at E3 2011
 
I think the fact that the final product is still 18 months away proves this isn't the final product.

fujishig 04-25-11 02:10 PM

Re: RUMOR - Next Nintendo Console to Be Announced at E3 2011
 
It runs off batteries! Or wireless energy! And wirelessly transmits 1080p video and lossless audio to the output devices. The wave of the future!

Groucho 04-25-11 02:14 PM

Re: RUMOR - Next Nintendo Console to Be Announced at E3 2011
 

Originally Posted by hail2dking (Post 10740980)
They could always put some sort of memory storage in each controller (and a cpu).

This has a lot of practical uses. Imagine having all of your saves and configuration with you in the controller. Then you could just bring it to your friend's house, and plug and play. Similar to carrying around your Xbox Live profile on a usb stick, except with the ability to change things around without disrupting the main console activity. "Don't mind me...I'm just adding a mustache to my Mii!"

pinata242 04-25-11 02:18 PM

Re: RUMOR - Next Nintendo Console to Be Announced at E3 2011
 
No one probably remembers, but they started down that path with the Wiimote in being able to tote your Mii around in it. Expanding that with like an SD card or whatever for gamesaves makes perfect sense.

Anubis2005X 04-25-11 03:01 PM

Re: RUMOR - Next Nintendo Console to Be Announced at E3 2011
 

Originally Posted by pinata242 (Post 10741249)
I think the fact that the final product is still 18 months away proves this isn't the final product.

Word is that it'll be playable at E3 this year. Doesn't mean it'll be in its final form though, naturally.

Rob V 04-25-11 03:12 PM

Re: RUMOR - Next Nintendo Console to Be Announced at E3 2011
 
IGN rumored that it'll be more powerful than the 360 and PS3... it makes me wonder how much pressure that puts on MS and Sony to ramp up R&D of their next console? I didn't expect anything for 3-4 years but now I'm not so sure.

Noonan 04-25-11 03:13 PM

Re: RUMOR - Next Nintendo Console to Be Announced at E3 2011
 
I'm sure MS and Sony are well on their way to having the new consoles complete. My guess is we'll see them at next year's E3 to steal thunder from Nintendo's launch.

Groucho 04-25-11 03:19 PM

Re: RUMOR - Next Nintendo Console to Be Announced at E3 2011
 

Originally Posted by Rob V (Post 10741338)
IGN rumored that it'll be more powerful than the 360 and PS3...

Well, of course it will. Those consoles are five years old.

Nintendo's problem with this console will be the same problem they have with EVERY console, their attitude of "We don't need [common sense feature], we're Nintendo!"

Supermallet 04-25-11 03:30 PM

Re: RUMOR - Next Nintendo Console to Be Announced at E3 2011
 
"We've done the studies, no one is interested in 3D graphics. All games on this system will be in 2D!"

al_bundy 04-25-11 03:31 PM

Re: RUMOR - Next Nintendo Console to Be Announced at E3 2011
 
i think engineering the hardware and coding the OS is the easy part. shouldn't be too hard to port some Mario game for a demo to whatever hardware they choose.

i'd guess that most of the work in console development is the development kit and the online piece of it. the console OS will probably be around 1GB in size. The dev kit will be 20GB or so and the software running on the servers that host the online piece will be fairly large as well as the databases to hold the data

kgrogers1979 04-25-11 03:40 PM

Re: RUMOR - Next Nintendo Console to Be Announced at E3 2011
 

Originally Posted by Noonan (Post 10741341)
I'm sure MS and Sony are well on their way to having the new consoles complete. My guess is we'll see them at next year's E3 to steal thunder from Nintendo's launch.

I bet we see them at this E3. All three will most likely launch next year.

Michael Corvin 04-25-11 04:59 PM

Re: RUMOR - Next Nintendo Console to Be Announced at E3 2011
 

Originally Posted by kgrogers1979 (Post 10741387)
I bet we see them at this E3. All three will most likely launch next year.

I'd say there is a 50-50 chance we'll see something from Microsoft and about a 5% chance from Sony.

kgrogers1979 04-25-11 05:18 PM

Re: RUMOR - Next Nintendo Console to Be Announced at E3 2011
 

Originally Posted by Michael Corvin (Post 10741509)
I'd say there is a 50-50 chance we'll see something from Microsoft and about a 5% chance from Sony.

Why so low for Sony? You don't actually believe their 10-year plan means that the PS3 is going to be their primary console for 10 years, do you?

Sony has had a "10-year plan" with all of their consoles. The PS1 launched in 1995 and Sony kept manufacturing it until 2004/05. The PS2 launched in 2001, and they are still manufacturing it although that will most likely stop within the next year or two.

That is all a "10-year plan" means to Sony, that they will manufacture the console for 10 years, not that it will be their primary console for 10 years.

The PS4 started R&D long ago, and they almost certainly have a near completed build to show in case one of their competitors drops the bomb and shows off next-gen sooner rather than later. Nintendo has dropped the bomb, so Sony and MS are more than likely prepared to retaliate.

mhg83 04-25-11 05:18 PM

Re: RUMOR - Next Nintendo Console to Be Announced at E3 2011
 

Originally Posted by Noonan (Post 10741341)
I'm sure MS and Sony are well on their way to having the new consoles complete. My guess is we'll see them at next year's E3 to steal thunder from Nintendo's launch.

I'm not so sure about Sony though. They're just now seeing profit from the ps3. Here's what i see happening; MS launches next xbox in 2012. Sony drops the price of ps3. This will cause the ps2 owners to change over to ps3. The games released on the Next xbox could still be ported over to ps3 although with less graphics power. Sony launches ps4 in 2016 end of ps3s ten year cycle. The graphics would outdo microsoft and nintendos systems.

kgrogers1979 04-25-11 05:46 PM

Re: RUMOR - Next Nintendo Console to Be Announced at E3 2011
 

Originally Posted by mhg83 (Post 10741553)
I'm not so sure about Sony though. They're just now seeing profit from the ps3. Here's what i see happening; MS launches next xbox in 2012. Sony drops the price of ps3. This will cause the ps2 owners to change over to ps3. The games released on the Next xbox could still be ported over to ps3 although with less graphics power. Sony launches ps4 in 2016 end of ps3s ten year cycle. The graphics would outdo microsoft and nintendos systems.


If you think Sony is going to wait until 2016 to get their next-gen console out, you are crazy. It will be out by 2013 at the latest.

Yes, they are just now seeing profit on the PS3, but they are just going to have to chaulk it up as a hard lesson learned not to blow up the costs so exponentially.

If Microsoft and Nintendo launch their next-gen, Sony HAS to follow suit if they want to remain even the slightest bit competitive. All the hardcore gamers are going to move onto next-gen with or without Sony. If Sony does not have next-gen, their userbase dwindles rapidly.

Yes, next-gen games could potentially be ported back to PS3 with less graphical power, but honestly that isn't going to happen very much. It only rarely happened this gen, with 360/PS3 games being ported back to Xbox/PS2 and in practically all cases the old-gen versions didn't sell well. Only the poor and/or casual gamers remain behind on the old hardware, and these people don't spend much money, so there is no incentive for the developers since the profit margin is so low on developing last-gen games.

fujishig 04-25-11 05:54 PM

Re: RUMOR - Next Nintendo Console to Be Announced at E3 2011
 
I don't think we'll see much from either Sony or Microsoft this E3, since it'd be in a rush and take the focus away from the current consoles they should be pushing now. We'll see, though.

In addition, Sony has got to be focusing on the NGP or PSP2 or whatever they want to call it. And maybe having someone fix PSN sometime soon.

Supermallet 04-25-11 06:04 PM

Re: RUMOR - Next Nintendo Console to Be Announced at E3 2011
 
If Microsoft and Sony were planning to unveil a new console this year, don't you think we'd be hearing as many rumblings from them as we are from Nintendo?

Liver&Onions 04-25-11 06:06 PM

Re: RUMOR - Next Nintendo Console to Be Announced at E3 2011
 
ding.

kgrogers1979 04-25-11 06:08 PM

Re: RUMOR - Next Nintendo Console to Be Announced at E3 2011
 

Originally Posted by Suprmallet (Post 10741617)
If Microsoft and Sony were planning to unveil a new console this year, don't you think we'd be hearing as many rumblings from them as we are from Nintendo?

Or maybe they are just better at guarding secrets than Nintendo.

They are probably playing the wait-and-see game. Wait and see if Project Cafe blows everything out of the water like it is hyped to be, then MS and Sony will show off their plans as well. If the Project Cafe is overhyped, then wait until later since there won't be any immediate urgency to show.

fujishig 04-25-11 06:08 PM

Re: RUMOR - Next Nintendo Console to Be Announced at E3 2011
 

Originally Posted by Suprmallet (Post 10741617)
If Microsoft and Sony were planning to unveil a new console this year, don't you think we'd be hearing as many rumblings from them as we are from Nintendo?

I figured the speculation was based on MS and Sony reacting to Nintendo's news, not that they all happened to pick this E3 beforehand.

devynal 04-25-11 06:10 PM

Re: RUMOR - Next Nintendo Console to Be Announced at E3 2011
 
Microsoft did post job openings for hardware architects for the next console this past March, if that gives any indication of a timeline.

flashburn 04-25-11 06:12 PM

Re: RUMOR - Next Nintendo Console to Be Announced at E3 2011
 

Originally Posted by devynal (Post 10741631)
Microsoft did post job openings for hardware architects for the next console this past March, if that gives any indication of a timeline.

I wouldn't read into that too much with regards to when the next gen MS console will be released.


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