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Drexl 06-03-12 07:26 PM

Re: Nintendo Console Announced at E3 2011 (Wii U)
 
That hardcore controller looks pretty good! I hope the bumpers are less "clicky" than the 360's bumpers. One potential issue: does it have analog triggers? It kinda looks like it doesn't.

As for the console price, I'd say it depends on how powerful it is. If it's on par with the 360/PS3, it really shouldn't cost $400. If it's more powerful, they could go higher.

Schloob1 06-03-12 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Drexl (Post 11257321)
That hardcore controller looks pretty good! I hope the bumpers are less "clicky" than the 360's bumpers. One potential issue: does it have analog triggers? It kinda looks like it doesn't.

As for the console price, I'd say it depends on how powerful it is. If it's on par with the 360/PS3, it really shouldn't cost $400. If it's more powerful, they could go higher.

Don't forget about that controller though. Seeing as how a basic 360 controller is $50, how in the world is the WiiU controller not at least $1-125? Mind you talking the main touch screen one of course.

Gizmo 06-03-12 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Schloob1 (Post 11257403)
Don't forget about that controller though. Seeing as how a basic 360 controller is $50, how in the world is the WiiU controller not at least $1-125? Mind you talking the main touch screen one of course.

Touch screens have dropped in price though. A refurbed Amazon Fire is like $140. Wii U is sorta Wii stuff anyways....

Schloob1 06-03-12 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by GizmoDVD (Post 11257320)
They sure did - 6+ years ago. They also had a base unit system at $300...

So no, I don't think $400 is an acceptable launch price anymore.

But can they really come out with a "base" unit system for only this much? If it can come out at $300 that would be awesome, I could see getting it within 2 years of launch then possibly. As I could see them price-dropping at the time that the other 2 would be then be bringing out their new consoles at that time. I could possibly see them launch at $350 with, if they are smart, packing it with that Mario game that was in the video today. Should be interesting to say the least as to how this pans out. Hopefully we'll at least get specs this week, but doubt we'll see a price/launch date, guessing a November launch though.

Matthew Chmiel 06-03-12 10:03 PM

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For those stating they're going to get the console at the first price drop, just current-generation console pricing for a history lesson:

Wii
11/2006: $249 launch price.
09/2009: $199 retail price; $50 price drop 34 months after initial launch.
05/2011: $149 retail price; $50 price drop 20 months after first price drop.

TL;DR: On average, Nintendo drops the price on a Wii every 27 months. I'd expect another $50 price drop coming within the next 6 months.

Xbox 360
11/2005: $299 launch price for Core model, $399 launch price for 20GB Elite system.
04/2007: 120GB Elite model launches for $479.
08/2007: $279 retail price for Core ($20 price drop), $349 retail price for 20GB Elite ($50 price drop) and $449 retail price for Elite ($20 price drop). First price drops occurs 21 months after launch.
11/2007: Core is now discontinued, replaced with Arcade for same retail price.
07/2008: Original 20GB Elite is now discontinued and retails for $299 ($50 price drop). Second price drop occurs 11 months after first drop.
09/2008: 60GB Pro model is launched. $199 retail price for Arcade ($80 price drop) and $399 retail price for 120GB Elite ($50 price drop). Second price drop occurs 13 months after first drop.
08/2009: 60GB Pro is discounted and retails for $249 ($50 price drop). 120GB Elite is redesigned and re-priced at $299 ($100 price drop). Third price drop occurs 11 months after second drop.

TL;DR: Not including hardware refreshes, on average, Microsoft drops the price on a Xbox 360 every 14 months.

PS3
11/2006: $499 launch price for 20GB model, $599 launch price for 60GB model.
04/2007: 20GB is discontinued, no official price drop occurs.
07/2007: $499 retail price for 60GB model ($100 price drop). First price drop occurs 8 months after launch.
08/2007: 80GB model launches for $599.
10/2007: 60GB is discontinued, no price drop occurs. $499 retail price for 80GB model ($100 price drop). First price drop 2 months after launch.
11/2007: 40GB model launches for $399.
09/2008: 40GB model is discontinued, no official price drop occurs. $399 retail price for 80GB model ($100 price drop). Second price drop occurs 11 months after first drop.
11/2008: 160GB model launches for $499.
08/2009: 120GB model launches for $299. $299 retail price for now discontinued 80GB model ($100 price drop), $399 retail price for 160GB model ($100 price drop). Third price drop occurs 11 months after launch, first price drop occurs 9 months after launch.
08/2010: 120GB model is discontinued, no official price drop occurs. 160GB model launches for $299, 320GB model launches for $399.
08/2011: $249 retail price for 160GB model ($50 price drop), $299 retail price for 320GB model ($100 price drop). First price drop occurs 12 months after launch.

TL;DR: Not including hardware refreshes, on average, Sony drops the price on a PS3 every 8 months. Depending on where you look, one can find the 160GB PS3 brand new at $199, undercutting Sony's MSRP by $50.

Yes, Nintendo did drop the price on the 3DS within four months of launch. However, the 3DS started out as a flop right out the door unlike the Wii. If the Wii U sees traction similar to that of the Wii, it might be awhile before we see the first price drop. If the Wii U sees traction similar to the 3DS, well, expect a price drop around E3 next year.

;)

Personally, I believe Nintendo realizes they're going to have to take a hit on the hardware right out the door a la Microsoft and their failed pricing with the 3DS. If the Wii U costs more than $299, I'd be shocked.

TheBigDave 06-05-12 12:11 AM

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Saw this at Crunchyroll today:


Nikkei* has some interesting news regarding future Nintendo announcements, both on the portable and home console front. According to their report, Nintendo plans to announce a 3DS with a larger screen, and the Wii U is projected to debut at a ¥30,000 price point.

While Nintendo previously stated they wouldn't be announcing pricing at E3, Nikkei has the company's new console, Wii U, priced at ¥30,000 (about $383). Andriasang compares that to PlayStation 3's 160GB MSRP of ¥24,980 ($319), and Wii's ¥20,000 ($255).

FULL ARTICLE - http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-new...creen-incoming

RichC2 06-05-12 08:39 AM

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A $383 Japanese price will likely translate to a $349 US price.

Gizmo 06-05-12 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by RichC2 (Post 11259620)
A $383 Japanese price will likely translate to a $349 US price.

Still seems like Nintendo knows better after the 3DS. Guess we (hopefully) will know in a few hours.

Deftones 06-05-12 09:25 AM

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nintendo said (IIRC) they aren't talking prices. Just games.

RichC2 06-05-12 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by GizmoDVD (Post 11259661)
Still seems like Nintendo knows better after the 3DS. Guess we (hopefully) will know in a few hours.

Handheld vs. Console.

The 3DS looked and felt like a $129 game unit (graphically comparing against mid-level tablets/mp3 players/phones), I was pretty surprised by the actual price.

flashburn 06-05-12 10:52 AM

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Anyone have a good feed for the press conference? GameTrailer's is lagging like a mofo for me.

pinata242 06-05-12 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by flashburn (Post 11259839)
Anyone have a good feed for the press conference? GameTrailer's is lagging like a mofo for me.

Ditto. I was just going to the E3 thread to ask the same question.

flashburn 06-05-12 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by pinata242 (Post 11259841)
Ditto. I was just going to the E3 thread to ask the same question.

Lets hang out in that thread instead, it's where all the cool people are at.

Anubis2005X 06-05-12 11:11 AM

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If Eternal Darkness 2 is accurate, I'm in.

Groucho 06-05-12 11:22 AM

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Wow, they announced this a year ago and still not out?

Deftones 06-05-12 11:26 AM

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if they incorporate the new wii u controller in a cool way with batman: arkham city, i'd consider buying it again to play.

Deftones 06-05-12 11:44 AM

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fwiw, rumored specs for the Wii U: http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/5/306...e-powerpc-chip


It's just moments away from Nintendo's E3 2012 event and the first official details of the Wii U, but it looks like detailed specs have already leaked out in a post on VGleaks. If they're true, the Wii U will be very similar to the Xbox 360, with a three-core PowerPC chip, 1.5GB of RAM, and 32MB of EDRAM. That sounds about right, but we're sure to find out more during the event. Stay tuned.

pinata242 06-05-12 12:13 PM

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I want Pikmin 3, but not near enough for the hardware.

jeffdsmith 06-05-12 11:08 PM

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pikmin....

Michael Corvin 06-06-12 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by pinata242 (Post 11260076)
I want Pikmin 3, but not near enough for the hardware.

Same here. Grab Pikmin 2 rerelease instead.

Price drop man, price drop. It's funny thinking that when we don't even know the price. Just whatever the price is, it's too much. :lol:

Frenzy 06-06-12 07:26 AM

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http://i.minus.com/jwnKngLN77llf.jpg

mhg83 06-06-12 01:30 PM

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Did anyone else think NIntendo Land sounded like an actual Nintendo Theme Park? :lol: I think I'm gonna buy Wii U at launch. I didn't think Nintendos press conference was bad. They showed a lot of great core games. Yeah the Arkam City is old but they're just trying to play catch up. I have no problem with N showing casual games. It's where they make the most money.

windom 06-08-12 02:39 PM

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What technology does the Wii U used to stream video to the GamePad? What is the range? If I have my Wii on the first floor of my house can one of my kids take the GamePad upstairs to play a game using the GamePad screen?

flashburn 06-08-12 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by windom (Post 11264808)
What technology does the Wii U used to stream video to the GamePad? What is the range? If I have my Wii on the first floor of my house can one of my kids take the GamePad upstairs to play a game using the GamePad screen?

Wireless HDMI I believe. Not sure what the range is on it.

edit: Well, it seems like "Wireless HDMI" is not an actual tech... from Wikipedia: "Wireless HDMI is a colloquial term for wireless high-definition audio and video signals connectivity on consumer electronics products."
So then, nevermind. I don't think Nintendo has revealed the details behind their wireless video/audio tech.

glassdragon 06-09-12 08:34 PM

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Prices are starting to get listed on uk sites

Shopto has it at £279.85 which is about 433.13 US
GAME’s Swedish website has the console listed for 4,995 Krona (£450). In US dollars, this is around $696.49.
The controllers – which have undergone a redesign – are listed for 1,499 Krona (£135), or $209.

http://gamerant.com/wii-u-controller...d-mole-154024/

Such different pricing and the fact that us ones may be cheaper is a valid point, but at these prices if they come to the us at these prices then WiiU is going to fail.


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