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Re: RUMOR - Next Nintendo Console to Be Announced at E3 2011
I have no doubt that it's a core design rule at this point. No way will Microsoft or Sony leave people behind with XBLA or PSN. WiiWare, I would hope, would follow suit but we already know how Nintendo "handled" it within the same generation.
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Re: RUMOR - Next Nintendo Console to Be Announced at E3 2011
Yes, it will be interesting to see what happens. With games, it's obviously going to depend on whether the next systems are backwards compatible or not. Videos, however, could be carried over, but Sony won't even allow you to download movies a second time as it is now.
Of course, you'll be locked in to the same console manufacturer. This is one reason why I have stayed away from buying videos through a console-specific service. I don't have allegiance to one console and may want to switch next time. I've been okay with games because they are locked to a console by design. Then there's Rock Band. Will the next generation versions of the game be able to work with the current songs? My guess is that they will, but again, you will have to keep the same console company for your old songs to work. But, as with the current DLC and the pro stuff requiring RB3, the game will evolve further and DLC after a certain point will require next-gen RB. Some older songs will get updated, and some won't. |
Re: RUMOR - Next Nintendo Console to Be Announced at E3 2011
Originally Posted by Drexl
(Post 10730723)
Yes, it will be interesting to see what happens. With games, it's obviously going to depend on whether the next systems are backwards compatible or not. Videos, however, could be carried over, but Sony won't even allow you to download movies a second time as it is now.
Of course, you'll be locked in to the same console manufacturer. This is one reason why I have stayed away from buying videos through a console-specific service. I don't have allegiance to one console and may want to switch next time. I've been okay with games because they are locked to a console by design. Then there's Rock Band. Will the next generation versions of the game be able to work with the current songs? My guess is that they will, but again, you will have to keep the same console company for your old songs to work. But, as with the current DLC and the pro stuff requiring RB3, the game will evolve further and DLC after a certain point will require next-gen RB. Some older songs will get updated, and some won't. |
Re: RUMOR - Next Nintendo Console to Be Announced at E3 2011
The biggest question Nintendo has to answer is: what is my target market? Didn't most of the kids and grandparents just get a Wii in the last 3-4 years? I'd classify them as the peripheral market share that helped Nintendo achieve success this generation. Going forward, do you think grandma is going to get the Wii 2 (or whatever it's called)? No way. Same with the young kids... I'm not buying this for them when they could care less if a game is 16 bit or 480i or 1080p.
So then I ask... is this system for me? I already have (3) PS3's for BD and (2) 360's. Why do I need this system? Aside from a few 1st party games, why would you buy this console? |
Re: RUMOR - Next Nintendo Console to Be Announced at E3 2011
the target market are the people that play mario, zelda and all the other first party games. that's how Nintendo always made the most money before. sell the console with the weakest hardware at a price where you make money on the console and develop a lot of first party games for it
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Re: RUMOR - Next Nintendo Console to Be Announced at E3 2011
Originally Posted by al_bundy
(Post 10730812)
sell the console with the weakest hardware at a price where you make money on the console and develop a lot of first party games for it
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Re: RUMOR - Next Nintendo Console to Be Announced at E3 2011
Also the Gamecube was more powerful than the PS2.
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ok, that was the wii strategy. but the first party games have always been huge money makers for nintendo
the wii was very successful but lately with the PS3 being a home entertainment device and the x-box selling due to the wii it seems to be between a rock and a hard place. unless your kids or you really want to play mario you just buy a PS3 or x-box and use it as your blu ray/dvd player/ netflix streaming/gaming and whatever else all in one box |
Re: RUMOR - Next Nintendo Console to Be Announced at E3 2011
Originally Posted by al_bundy
(Post 10730888)
ok, that was the wii strategy. but the first party games have always been huge money makers for nintendo
the wii was very successful but lately with the PS3 being a home entertainment device and the x-box selling due to the wii it seems to be between a rock and a hard place. unless your kids or you really want to play mario you just buy a PS3 or x-box and use it as your blu ray/dvd player/ netflix streaming/gaming and whatever else all in one box |
Re: RUMOR - Next Nintendo Console to Be Announced at E3 2011
Originally Posted by al_bundy
(Post 10730888)
the wii was very successful but lately with the PS3 being a home entertainment device and the x-box selling due to the wii it seems to be between a rock and a hard place.
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Re: RUMOR - Next Nintendo Console to Be Announced at E3 2011
While we're on the topic of the next generation, I hope MS doesn't make the hard drive proprietary next time. The price of a SSD upgrade is going to be reasonable before too long, but I expect the base units will still have mechanical drives to keep the cost down.
Then again, I suppose MS can just brand a SSD and call it the "Turbo" version. :rolleyes: |
Re: RUMOR - Next Nintendo Console to Be Announced at E3 2011
I would imagine they'll stick with proprietary. Ship with a default amount built in(instead of no drive like this gen) but premium users can upgrade.
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Re: RUMOR - Next Nintendo Console to Be Announced at E3 2011
Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
(Post 10730900)
:hscratch: Huh?
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Re: RUMOR - Next Nintendo Console to Be Announced at E3 2011
Maybe that's because everyone bought one already? There's no benefit for multiple Wiis in the house, unlike Xboxes and PS3s.
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Re: RUMOR - Next Nintendo Console to Be Announced at E3 2011
Unrelated. The xbox has sold consistently for 5 years. The decline in Wii sales is because everyone already has one. Not only that, what major game have they released since Kinect and Move came out? Donkey Kong Country Returns? Epic Mickey? Anything else?
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Re: RUMOR - Next Nintendo Console to Be Announced at E3 2011
I think it was more that the fad of playing Wii Sports wore off and non-gamers stopped buying them. Then they stopped releasing high quality titles and gamers stopped buying them too. Have there been any recent titles worth having other than DK Country?
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Re: RUMOR - Next Nintendo Console to Be Announced at E3 2011
I would personally love to see Nintendo close down the console division and focus on 3rd party titles for the 360 and ps3 ala sega. Could you imagine mario, zelda, or metroid on the ps3 and 360?
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Re: RUMOR - Next Nintendo Console to Be Announced at E3 2011
What's recent? Kirby came out last fall to rave reviews, but I can't recall a single game from 2011.
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Re: RUMOR - Next Nintendo Console to Be Announced at E3 2011
Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
(Post 10730971)
Unrelated. The xbox has sold consistently for 5 years. The decline in Wii sales is because everyone already has one. Not only that, what major game have they released since Kinect and Move came out? Donkey Kong Country Returns? Epic Mickey? Anything else?
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Re: RUMOR - Next Nintendo Console to Be Announced at E3 2011
Imagine F-Zero and WaveRace in HD! :drool: Even Pikmin with realistic gardens would be amazing.
Three forgotten franchises this gen. I do hope they rectify that with the new console. |
Re: RUMOR - Next Nintendo Console to Be Announced at E3 2011
It's important to note that only Microsoft (AFAIK) releases monthly NPD numbers since they changed their rules. They're still seeing year-over-year growth in the market. Not only are Xboxes still selling, they're increasing. That, I'm sure, is due to equal parts Kinect, Sexbox, additional unit, and failure replacement.
I technically own three myself. |
Re: RUMOR - Next Nintendo Console to Be Announced at E3 2011
Personally I'd like to see Nintendo create some new franchises already...
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Re: RUMOR - Next Nintendo Console to Be Announced at E3 2011
Originally Posted by Anubis2005X
(Post 10731042)
Personally I'd like to see Nintendo create some new franchises already...
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Re: RUMOR - Next Nintendo Console to Be Announced at E3 2011
Originally Posted by pinata242
(Post 10730967)
Maybe that's because everyone bought one already? There's no benefit for multiple Wiis in the house, unlike Xboxes and PS3s.
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Re: RUMOR - Next Nintendo Console to Be Announced at E3 2011
Originally Posted by orangecrush
(Post 10732074)
We use our broken Wii to stream netflix to our SD TV.
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