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Re: Nintendo Console Announced at E3 2011 (Wii U)
Originally Posted by Drexl
(Post 11337593)
I think the third party support will depend in part on how powerful the MS and Sony systems are. The Wii had a "classic" controller after all, and that didn't really help. The real problem, IMHO, was that they were making games that pushed the hardware and couldn't be done on the Wii without serious compromises or being redesigned from the ground up. If the Wii U also ends up being technically behind, this scenario could play out all over again.
And of course, it will also depend on how well the games actually sell on the console. As the Gamecube demonstrated, they can have the hardware on par with the competition, but if they don't attract the right market, the third parties won't stay on board. Nintendo is in this weird place where the core crowd still loves Nintendo brand games, but they're never going have a Nintendo console be the primary console in a core gamer's life. The core crowd wants the latest and greatest and like you said, if the 360 successor or PS4 makes a giant leap frog over the WiiU, then the WiiU is essentially a Dreamcast. Slightly better than current consoles and a good distraction for a year until it's outdated by the competition. Also, online communities are already up and people have chosen. Why go to a new console when you already have friends & communities on Live or PSN? The pool of players for any given game(solid port or not) will dwarf the community on WiiU. Nintendo absolutely dropped the ball on the Wii by just doing the bare minimum for online play and I think it'll hurt them in the long run. I just cannot see the WiiU drawing the same numbers of Call of Duty players as the other 2 consoles. It just won't happen. |
Re: Nintendo Console Announced at E3 2011 (Wii U)
I read that they'll allow you to transfer your Virtual Console stuff from your Wii to the U. Which is nice, since the VC stuff I have is the main reason I've been holding on to my Wii. Heh... "holding on to my wii" - never gets old.
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Re: Nintendo Console Announced at E3 2011 (Wii U)
Originally Posted by Drexl
(Post 11337593)
I think the third party support will depend in part on how powerful the MS and Sony systems are. The Wii had a "classic" controller after all, and that didn't really help. The real problem, IMHO, was that they were making games that pushed the hardware and couldn't be done on the Wii without serious compromises or being redesigned from the ground up. If the Wii U also ends up being technically behind, this scenario could play out all over again.
And of course, it will also depend on how well the games actually sell on the console. As the Gamecube demonstrated, they can have the hardware on par with the competition, but if they don't attract the right market, the third parties won't stay on board. |
Re: Nintendo Console Announced at E3 2011 (Wii U)
If that Amazon cover art is accurate, it looks like they're mimicking the GameCube cover art design with the swoosh on the top. I hope that isn't a sign.
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Re: Nintendo Console Announced at E3 2011 (Wii U)
Originally Posted by atxbomber
(Post 11337171)
I'm going to the Austin one next week. How was the crowd?
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Re: Nintendo Console Announced at E3 2011 (Wii U)
Halfway through Batman Arkham Asylum on 360...and now holding out for City on the Wii U. Gonna be a long wait. Pretty sure it's going to be a launch title (why delay it any further?) which means I'm gonna drop around $500 or so on everything (assuming the U is $300).
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Re: Nintendo Console Announced at E3 2011 (Wii U)
Rumor from a Gamestop internal memo that Wii U will release on black friday
http://www.gonintendo.com/?mode=viewstory&id=183154 Yeah, this won't be a clusterfuck rotfl |
Re: Nintendo Console Announced at E3 2011 (Wii U)
That should be fun.
BTW, I think it's about time to make this thread Nintendo's sticky one and un-stick the Wii thread. |
Re: Nintendo Console Announced at E3 2011 (Wii U)
Originally Posted by glassdragon
(Post 11345492)
Rumor from a Gamestop internal memo that Wii U will release on black friday
http://www.gonintendo.com/?mode=viewstory&id=183154 Yeah, this won't be a clusterfuck rotfl I wonder if the pre-order will still be there if you go the next day to pick up? I'd imagine the rush of Black Friday there'll be a few stores that will fuck up and sell your system. |
Re: Nintendo Console Announced at E3 2011 (Wii U)
Originally Posted by glassdragon
(Post 11345492)
Rumor from a Gamestop internal memo that Wii U will release on black friday
http://www.gonintendo.com/?mode=viewstory&id=183154 Yeah, this won't be a clusterfuck rotfl |
Re: Nintendo Console Announced at E3 2011 (Wii U)
Originally Posted by mhg83
(Post 11345508)
That's a great move by Nintendo. Releasing your product on Black Friday pretty much guarantees a system sell out.
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Re: Nintendo Console Announced at E3 2011 (Wii U)
There's sell out and sell out.
The PS3 and Wii launched the same week and the PS3 was available by January (easily). The Wii was hard to find for what seemed like years. I'm betting on the 11th or 18th. Probably the 11th. |
Re: Nintendo Console Announced at E3 2011 (Wii U)
I don't think the Wii U will be as popular. The hardcore gamers won't embrace it, as some of them were burned by the Wii and most will wait for the next MS or Sony console. For the casuals, the innovation this time isn't as novel as motion control. Plus, it doesn't look like it will have the attraction of being "the cheap system," since it won't be alongside more expensive competition.
Not that it won't sell out at launch, but I don't see it being impossible to get for months. |
Re: Nintendo Console Announced at E3 2011 (Wii U)
Originally Posted by Drexl
(Post 11345872)
I don't think the Wii U will be as popular. The hardcore gamers won't embrace it, as some of them were burned by the Wii and most will wait for the next MS or Sony console. For the casuals, the innovation this time isn't as novel as motion control. Plus, it doesn't look like it will have the attraction of being "the cheap system," since it won't be alongside more expensive competition.
Not that it won't sell out at launch, but I don't see it being impossible to get for months. I know I'll be pre-ordering a few as soon as they pop up (For me, boss kids etc.) |
Re: Nintendo Console Announced at E3 2011 (Wii U)
Looks like Rayman Legends is a WiiU exclusive.
That's a bummer. Origins is one of my favorite games of last year. |
Re: Nintendo Console Announced at E3 2011 (Wii U)
The wife and I just got back from our Wii U experience, and had a really fun time. This post might be a little scatterbrained, but here you go:
The tablet is nice and light, and fit perfectly in my hands. I didn't come across and defective units and we never had to re-sync them to the Wii U anytime that I played or watched others play, so, hopefully that means those won't be issues with the retail units at launch (I know that was a concern from the Atlanta show). Super Mario Wii-U was excellent. The "assistant mode" was fun, and there's a lot of potential for trolling and fun if you've got a full group playing. Nintendo Land and Game & Wario were fun with full groups, but I don't think they'll be as good if you're only playing with one other person or alone. There was only four mini games available for Wario, but the girl running the demo said there'd be "at least 10 more" when the game hits retail. Pikmin 3 was a blast to play and looked amazing. Batman Arkham City was pretty fun and looked great. Definitely a learning curve though as there's a lot of switching back and forth from the tablet screen to the TV. The guy running the demo was pretty hands on and wasn't really giving us a chance to "feel things out" though, so that might have contributed to the learning curve. That said, it's pretty fun controlling batarangs with the tablet, and the graphics on the tablet screen are very, very good. If I didn't already own the game, I'd definitely be placing a preorder for it right now. I didn't get a chance to play Zombie U, but spent some time watching, and it looks great. There were a few moments where the people playing literally jumped because of a zombie jumping out of the darkness to attack them. I can imagine playing that in a more controlled environment is going to be really intense. Wish I'd gotten a chance to get hands on, but both demo stations were swamped. I definitely would say it was the favorite or the crowd. Didn't spend anytime with the music games or Wii Fit U. From just walking by it and taking a quick glance, Wii Fit U looked like more of what was on the Wii. The 3DS XL was there and it is HUGE. I brought my 3DS with me and was able to do a side by side comparison, and the it's ridiculous how much larger the XL is (especially the screens) compared to the original. They had New Super Mario Bros. 2 on it, and that is of course a blast. They also had Ninja Gaiden 3, Rayman, and Project P-100, but I didn't spend much time looking at those, and didn't get to play any of them. They all looked great, and I really wish I'd noticed P-100 so I could have given that one a spin (it was in the corner near one of the Zombie U machines, so I honestly didn't see it until it was towards the end). They didn't have Scibblenauts from what I could tell, which was disappointing -- and I didn't see the pro controller anywhere, though now I'm thinking it was probably hooked up to Ninja Gaiden. But otherwise, it did it's job and sold me on the system -- depending on price of course. Even my wife, who's a gamer but never really been into Nintendo, wants Mario and Pikmim, to quote: "RIGHT NOW", and really liked Batman. |
Re: Nintendo Console Announced at E3 2011 (Wii U)
There's a press conference in NYC on the 13th, which should reveal all the final details of the Wii U.
Also, a distributor listing just leaked, stating that the Wii U would be released on November 11 and have three different SKUs - one for 250, one for 300, and the last for 350. |
Re: Nintendo Console Announced at E3 2011 (Wii U)
I wonder what the difference(s) will be with the SKUs. I'd like one without the tablet controller, but I figure they'll insist on making it stock to be sure it gets supported.
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Re: Nintendo Console Announced at E3 2011 (Wii U)
$250 - Console + 1 controller
$300 - Console + 2 controllers $350 - Console + 2 controllers + Wii VC Migration Kit (Bundle Exclusive) |
Re: Nintendo Console Announced at E3 2011 (Wii U)
Here are the 3 SKUs listed:
WIIU SYSTEM - GM - 11/11/12 $249.99 WIIU SYSTEM W/ - GM - 11/11/12 $299.99 WIIU SYSTEM 349 W/ - GM - 11/11/12 $349.99 And here's the link to the article: http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/09/...details-appear |
Re: Nintendo Console Announced at E3 2011 (Wii U)
I don't see much point in doing a version that's only $50 more with an extra controller that would probably cost a lot more separately. How would Nintendo benefit from that? Are they afraid that people won't buy a Wii U at all when they find out what it would cost to add a second controller to the basic unit?
I'm thinking you have to get the $349 version for 2 controllers, while the $299 version has a game or something. I could see them heavily discounting or even giving away the game, but not the controller. |
Re: Nintendo Console Announced at E3 2011 (Wii U)
Jesus Christ. That first two weeks of November are going to bankrupt most console gamers. Two of the most anticipated games of the year come out within a week of each other (Black Ops II and Halo 4) and now we have a console launch in the middle of it all.
... well thankfully my pre-orders of Black Ops II and Halo 4 have already been paid for. :) I'm sure I'm going to be springing for the most expensive unit. It's too bad my wife still uses her Wii daily to do workouts every day or I'd be selling it off now. |
Re: Nintendo Console Announced at E3 2011 (Wii U)
Wow, you guys are convinced on the Wii U already? I'm still waiting to see what the "must-have" game is going to be. Everything I've seen so far seem like tech demos.
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Re: Nintendo Console Announced at E3 2011 (Wii U)
Yeah, I want Pikmin and Rayman but not for roughly $500.
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Re: Nintendo Console Announced at E3 2011 (Wii U)
Originally Posted by pinata242
(Post 11371254)
$250 - Console + 1 controller
$300 - Console + 2 controllers $350 - Console + 2 controllers + Wii VC Migration Kit (Bundle Exclusive) |
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