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Re: RUMOR - Next Nintendo Console to Be Announced at E3 2011
Originally Posted by kgrogers1979
(Post 10741626)
Or maybe they are just better at guarding secrets than Nintendo.
They are probably playing the wait-and-see game. Wait and see if Project Cafe blows everything out of the water like it is hyped to be, then MS and Sony will show off their plans as well. If the Project Cafe is overhyped, then wait until later since there won't be any immediate urgency to show. |
Re: RUMOR - Next Nintendo Console to Be Announced at E3 2011
Originally Posted by kgrogers1979
(Post 10741551)
Why so low for Sony? You don't actually believe their 10-year plan means that the PS3 is going to be their primary console for 10 years, do you?
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Re: RUMOR - Next Nintendo Console to Be Announced at E3 2011
Originally Posted by kgrogers1979
(Post 10741387)
I bet we see them at this E3. All three will most likely launch next year.
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Re: RUMOR - Next Nintendo Console to Be Announced at E3 2011
I'd say the odds are ridiculously slim that Microsoft or Sony announce anything at E3. Maybe some rumblings towards the end of the year just to say they'll be way more powerful then whatever Nintendo puts out, but I don't see any reason to assume they're sitting on new tech already and just waiting it out. I never got the impression that Sony and Microsoft were in a big rush for the next generation, and 2013 wouldn't surprise me.
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Re: RUMOR - Next Nintendo Console to Be Announced at E3 2011
Yeah, Nintendo is the only one behind. Sony and Microsoft don't need to hurry up, they already are "next generation".
And I really don't expect anything from the new Nintendo console to be too superior. |
Re: RUMOR - Next Nintendo Console to Be Announced at E3 2011
It's kind of amazing how many people rag on Nintendo these days.
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Re: RUMOR - Next Nintendo Console to Be Announced at E3 2011
Originally Posted by NiCK Crush
(Post 10742157)
It's kind of amazing how many people rag on Nintendo these days.
It's getting a bit tired of them to have systems that format wise and such are 2 or 3 years behind the times. That is why I don't really think of nintendo as being valid anymore. Hopefully they can make something that I can take seriously this time. Mind you,some of their games are great, but for god sakes, the wii had a dvd drive but didn't even play dvd movies. That is kind of ridiculous to not have the functionality. |
Re: RUMOR - Next Nintendo Console to Be Announced at E3 2011
Yeah, they totally copied half of Move only five years before Sony did it ;)
Seriously, though, they innovate. HD wasn't a concern for the Japanese gamer in 2006. |
Re: RUMOR - Next Nintendo Console to Be Announced at E3 2011
Originally Posted by pinata242
(Post 10742186)
Yeah, they totally copied half of Move only five years before Sony did it ;)
Seriously, though, they innovate. HD wasn't a concern for the Japanese gamer in 2006. I'm not saying they copy anyone, in fact they rarely copy, but it just makes me think they don't take making a system seriously, they would rather make a boy than a serious gaming system. |
Re: RUMOR - Next Nintendo Console to Be Announced at E3 2011
Originally Posted by glassdragon
(Post 10742190)
they would rather make a boy than a serious gaming system.
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Re: RUMOR - Next Nintendo Console to Be Announced at E3 2011
Yeah, it was ridiculous that Nintendo wouldn't at least have the Wii play DVDs, and while there was a degree of gimmick in the majority of third-party titles, the Nintendo games were all top notch.
And the motion controls aside, I actually liked the Wii Remote and Nunchuck for games; I found it a very comfortable and intuitive way to play the games and it gave me more freedom with position my hands than with other controllers. I also don't see why people criticize the integration of motion controls just because some of it ended up being lame. For example, I loved the way it was integrated into Twilight Princess for things like shooting arrows and swordfights. I guess I'm just biased because I've been with Nintendo since I was a kid; although I did get a PlayStation 2 and PlayStation 3, primarily for the DVD and Blu-ray capabilities, respectively, as well as a few titles. Like I said before though, as long as Nintendo gives me quality games from their main franchises, that's all I care about. The Wii was well worth it for Super Mario Galaxy, Super Mario Galaxy 2, Twilight Princess, Donkey Kong Country Returns, and other first-party titles. |
Re: RUMOR - Next Nintendo Console to Be Announced at E3 2011
Originally Posted by kstublen
(Post 10742379)
Yeah, it was ridiculous that Nintendo wouldn't at least have the Wii play DVDs, and while there was a degree of gimmick in the majority of third-party titles, the Nintendo games were all top notch.
Super Mario Galaxy didn't need it. Pointing at starbits is the same as walking past them, you get 'em anyway. Did we really need levels where you stand on a ball to move? Shake to spin? Nope. Nope. Nope. New Super Mario Bros. Wii - Shake the Wiimote to pick things up? Uh, talk about a step backward, it was a button press for 25 years. Metroid: Other M - Point to shoot missles and re-orienting the controller in the heat of battle? Worst design decision ever. There are plenty more examples like those. In fact the only ones that I think truly worked from the ground up were Metroid Prime and the Wii Sports titles. Even then, I think Metroid was more of a lateral move versus true improvement.
Originally Posted by kstublen
(Post 10742379)
And the motion controls aside, I actually liked the Wii Remote and Nunchuck for games; I found it a very comfortable and intuitive way to play the games and it gave me more freedom with position my hands than with other controllers.
Originally Posted by kstublen
(Post 10742379)
I guess I'm just biased because I've been with Nintendo since I was a kid;
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Re: RUMOR - Next Nintendo Console to Be Announced at E3 2011
Originally Posted by Suprmallet
(Post 10741657)
Since when are MS and Sony good at keeping secrets? If new consoles were going to be unveiled this summer, we'd be hearing about it.
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Re: RUMOR - Next Nintendo Console to Be Announced at E3 2011
Originally Posted by glassdragon
(Post 10742174)
What's kind of amazing is how nintendo is always the last to adopt new technology. Maybe people wouldn't rag on them as much if they followed the times instead of trying to use gimmicks which will hopefully change with this. They were still using cartridges well after cd's became the norm
It's getting a bit tired of them to have systems that format wise and such are 2 or 3 years behind the times. That is why I don't really think of nintendo as being valid anymore. Hopefully they can make something that I can take seriously this time. Mind you,some of their games are great, but for god sakes, the wii had a dvd drive but didn't even play dvd movies. That is kind of ridiculous to not have the functionality. |
Re: RUMOR - Next Nintendo Console to Be Announced at E3 2011
The problem with most of these new gaming "innovations" is that they have fuck all to do with the actual games. It's classic "cart before the horse" mentality, with the tech servicing itself rather than the game. It's as if the R&D department and the game developers are working independently of each other, and having to shoe-horn their shit together at the end of the process.
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Re: RUMOR - Next Nintendo Console to Be Announced at E3 2011
Neither Microsoft nor Sony can show off new systems yet. They need to see what Nintendo is putting out there first so they can copy it! *runs away
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Re: RUMOR - Next Nintendo Console to Be Announced at E3 2011
Originally Posted by slop101
(Post 10742577)
The problem with most of these new gaming "innovations" is that they have fuck all to do with the actual games. It's classic "cart before the horse" mentality, with the tech servicing itself rather than the game. It's as if the R&D department and the game developers are working independently of each other, and having to shoe-horn their shit together at the end of the process.
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Re: RUMOR - Next Nintendo Console to Be Announced at E3 2011
Yeah, Nintendo works very close with Miyamoto on each new system, and Cliffy B supposedly had some input in MS opting for 512MB of ram over cheaping out at 256MB. I think all three companies consider input from designers, it's whether or not they take their advice.
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Re: RUMOR - Next Nintendo Console to Be Announced at E3 2011
http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/pos...onsole-for-e3/
"Nintendo has decided to launch in 2012 a system to succeed Wii, which the company has sold 86.01 million units on a consolidated shipment basis between its launch in 2006 and the end of March 2011. We will show a playable model of the new system and announce more specifications at the E3 Expo, which will be held June 7-9, 2011, in Los Angeles.” |
Re: RUMOR - Next Nintendo Console to Be Announced at E3 2011
Originally Posted by glassdragon
(Post 10742174)
What's kind of amazing is how nintendo is always the last to adopt new technology. Maybe people wouldn't rag on them as much if they followed the times instead of trying to use gimmicks which will hopefully change with this. They were still using cartridges well after cd's became the norm
It's getting a bit tired of them to have systems that format wise and such are 2 or 3 years behind the times. That is why I don't really think of nintendo as being valid anymore. Hopefully they can make something that I can take seriously this time. Mind you,some of their games are great, but for god sakes, the wii had a dvd drive but didn't even play dvd movies. That is kind of ridiculous to not have the functionality. I think Nintendo is innovative, they just didn't prioritize HD gaming or DVD playback (and really, how many households would even use the Wii as a DVD player?). I think nearly every new system has a controller that has done something different than the rest. And they found a way to be successful by doing something different this generation, instead of building a system similar to the other two and trying to compete with the same market. Admittedly, their lack of an online strategy for any of their systems is frustrating. Having the multiple variations of the DS only do WEP is frustrating. But now they're entering the HD space, in a time when HD sets are very commonplace. |
Re: RUMOR - Next Nintendo Console to Be Announced at E3 2011
What's funny is that Nintendo made this maddeningly complex online friends system in order to protect "the children". Yet, it's still the only console where I can routinely play an online game against an opponent whose face looks like a penis.
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Re: RUMOR - Next Nintendo Console to Be Announced at E3 2011
Originally Posted by fujishig
(Post 10742986)
Nintendo not valid? They're laughing all the way to the bank. And leave it to Sony to "revolutionize" the portable market with UMDs while Nintendo relies on cartridges.
I think Nintendo is innovative, they just didn't prioritize HD gaming or DVD playback (and really, how many households would even use the Wii as a DVD player?). I think nearly every new system has a controller that has done something different than the rest. And they found a way to be successful by doing something different this generation, instead of building a system similar to the other two and trying to compete with the same market. Admittedly, their lack of an online strategy for any of their systems is frustrating. Having the multiple variations of the DS only do WEP is frustrating. But now they're entering the HD space, in a time when HD sets are very commonplace. |
Re: RUMOR - Next Nintendo Console to Be Announced at E3 2011
Kinect doesn't work for me, because I don't like flailing my arms around without something in my hand. At least with Wii, and even better with Playstation Move, I am gripping something that feels like a tennis racket, or a golf club.
Kinect is fine for dance games, if that's your thing. |
Re: RUMOR - Next Nintendo Console to Be Announced at E3 2011
The best thing about new consoles: fanboys come out in droves to condone or support a set of assumptions.
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Re: RUMOR - Next Nintendo Console to Be Announced at E3 2011
Originally Posted by Rob V
(Post 10743155)
The best thing about new consoles: fanboys come out in droves to condone or support a set of assumptions.
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