Doing my Renegade playthough and had romanced Ashley in ME and Miranda in ME2. I just broke up with Miranda when I ran into her on the Citadel..damn that was brutal to watch..she takes it pretty hard...might have to go back to a earlier save and lie by saying I want her still.

The reaction to ME3 is really a bummer to see. I know people are having issues with the ending, and while I don't, I can't dispute the reasoning of those that do. But the fact that this game has 2 stars on Amazon? I mean seriously people? I feel like people really are failing to see the forest through the trees.

i got an email to see jondum bau in the citael embassy offices.
i get there and he shows up in the map, but i do not see him.
is this a bug?

also when you read emails, they don't get added to your quest log.

what does the warchest items do?
they only influence the final outcome of the game, is that correct?

He's a salarian and he stands right outside Commander Bailey's office if I remember correctly. Are you sure he isn't there? I agree that the Citadel map is pretty terrible. I had trouble finding people a few times too.
Correct. Emails usually just give you info or let you know that someone is waiting to give you a quest.

If you're referring to war assets, then yes.

I'm not sure in what other forms the "ME3 Datapad" is available (I use Iphone/Ipad), but it's an easier way to get your Galactic Readiness up. I was hovering at around 80% after MP, but used the app for a few days to end it with 100% across the board (as I got close to the end of the game, I was using the app to do a final push of adding 1.3% per hour)

Right or wrong people that voted a 2 felt the ending invalidated the entire franchise

oh well...they are laughing all the way to the bank on this one...and I bet if they gave out info on how much money they have made with mp dlc packs...it would shock people...and if they do release dlc that adds to the ending, that will also sell millions...

There's no right there, those morons are all wrong. We all die but that doesn't invalidate life. I'm sure most people aren't thrilled with the when, where, why, and how of their own ending either.

So all stories or creative works with disappointing conclusions are above criticism because death is a fact?

There's obviously a real current of feeling about this issue that goes beyond the usual internet trolling just for kicks. Mass Effect 1 and 2 both still have near-perfect ratings, by the way, so I don't think very many people are seriously making an argument that the ending "invalidated the entire franchise."

I think most people expected a Star Wars type-ending where it was even a possibility that Shepard could save the day and live happily ever after when this series, from the very beginning, was more concerned with presenting itself in a more philosophical way, whether that was right or wrong (based on the personalities of gamers, and the theme of choice that this series hinged on, I don't think they were ever going to be successful there).

While the first two games, based on your choices, could end on a pretty uplifting note, there was always an undercurrent of tragedy to even the perfect Paragon endings.

So, I always expected Shepard to die, and based on the hints given that the Reapers were part of some grand cosmic scheme based on their dialogue and actions in the first two games alone (hell, their entire 50,000 year cycle plan), I fully expected something like the ending we got. Once I finished "Priority: Rannoch", I knew what I was in for. I've read and watched enough sci-fi to understand references to singularity when they're presented.

Hell, I fully expected Shepard to meet God at the end or something, so what we actually got was a great deal less epic than I imagined. I don't understand the vitrolic outrage. Plenty of sci-fi stories have ended with endings like this. It's practically a cliche at this point, though not as much of one had Shepard ridden off into the sunset with Liara (or whoever).

They posted something aboutt hat on twitter. Apparently they wont be expanding or even changing the ending. What they will do is add bits here and there throughout the game to help flesh out the story as it relates to the ending.

Over at the Bioware forums, fans are pissed (when are they not?) but I think that's good of Bioware. Though I've yet to finsih the game (had to replay 3 hours of the game due to a save glitch that happened when I played offline), I like to see that a company is sticking to their guns rather than just doing a do over.

If my playthrough is any indication, the ending will not be a happy one. And I'm perfectly fine with that.

Though I've yet to play ME3, I did play both 1 & 2. The feelings and outcry from the fan base would be much different if this were a straight out FPS game or even the first in the series but it's not. It's a 3rd in a series of a excellent blend of RPG & Action whee fans have become attached not to the series but characters as well.

Can one imagine the outcry from fans if Star Wars:Rot, Star Trek Wrath of Kahn or Harry Potter ended the same way. Or what about games like Gears or Halo ended in such a manner. It's not a case of the layer or viewer saying, "oh well....". It's more of a shock and, "WTH is this BS" kind of moment after all this time being involved.

So did anyone use their kinect, and actually stick with it the whole game? Since I have 3 kids in the house, I do a lot of my gaming late at night. Yelling at my game to change weapons is just not going to work, but the little I did I found unnecessary. There was nothing I could do with my kinect that actually made the game better. I also found the voice recognition to be faulty at times, instantly hurting the usefulness of the voice commands.

I was fine with the idea of the ending, but the implementation was awful:

Except it's war. I hated seeing die but their deaths were poignant and was glad they at least went out on their own terms. I found it bitter-sweet. Sure, I'd love all of them to come out of it alive and happy. But it doesn't make the story any worse if they don't.

Plus there's a hell of a lot of political and social issues that no amount of Shepard-led victory will ever do away. People also forget that Bioware only promised that Shepard's story would end in Mass Effect 3. They never promised the whole thing would be wrapped in a bow. Just that we'd see the conclusion of Shepard's story while the franchise moves on.

ANyhoo, I should be able to finish my first playthrough this afternoon and see what all the rage is about.

Obviously. It's as valid of a viewpoint as saying the 3-minute ending of a video game ruins the previous 120 hours of enjoyment. It doesn't erase the experience any more than death, which is arguably the most disappointing thing one can experience, invalidates the previous years of life.

"Just gonna die eventually anyway, what's the point?"
"The ending is gonna suck anyway, what's the point?"

Whilst scanning planets for war assets, I found myself disappointed that there are no random exploration sidequests like the few scattered throughout ME2.

Heck, I was pissed that Cortez and Vega debate the merrits of the Hammerhead versus the Mako yet I'm not offered any vehicle exploration this time around. Sure, the Mako sucked. But the Hammerhead was a step in the right direction.

Another thing I miss was the bypass and hacking mini-games. I would understand ditching them if I'm playing the game on "action" but my setting is "rpg" (given I get full dialogue decisions).

Nitpicks, sure, but stuff I would like to see added via DLC.

They said they would be 'adding' to the ending to offer 'closure' and 'answers'. Many was okay with death, but they wanted basically a epilogue. So in this case Bioware is not really sticking to its guns, if they were, there would be no additional content to add to the end.

Bioware is not stupid, if you want to sell DLC, and make BRAND NEW GAMES in the Mass Effect Universe, why alienate a portion of your fanbase, the ones that tend to buy everything and anything ME related.

Well what was really said is the following:

"Building on their research, Exec Producer Casey Hudson and the team are hard at work on a number of game content initiatives that will help answer the questions, providing more clarity for those seeking further closure to their journey,” he promised. "We’re working hard to maintain the right balance between the artistic integrity of the original story while addressing the fan feedback we’ve received."

So that's still sticking to their guns, in my eyes. Just fleshing out the game more. Which would have happened anyway, regardless of fan reaction to the ending. You knew DLC would be coming.

The rest is here. they even comment about a new Mass Effect game (another non-surprise).

So lets say you had led a really good life with your soulmate, you had many children, grandkids, you travelled, you lived life to your fullest.

Then you get on your deathbed, your soulmate is by your side, and in the final hours, she essentially tells you your life together was a lie, that your children were fathered by your best friend, that your 'soulmate' never loved you and she played a giant act.

Sure your journey was awesome, but in those final moments, all you are going to think about is that betrayal. Does it mean your experiences as you lived that life weren't real experiences at the time? That you didn't enjoy that journey? No.

But does it tarnish it a somewhat? That everything you lived for and known was kind of a ruse or a lie?

Here is the question though, Do you believe this additional DLC would have 'answered questions, brought closure and provide more clarity to the ending' if the the sh** didn't hit the fan? Because originally the DLC was suppose to have things either before the story, or before the end. But now its going to include those after ending DLCs

This is the sort of ending you deserve when you live life as a paragon.

Did you ever use the "Restart" or "Load" option after dying in ME1, 2, or 3? Because if you did then you aren't role playing properly and you don't even deserve their "ending".

No it's not. I wish I could go to the Bioware forum at work because in one of the newer threads there they posted a pic from one of the latest twitter posts. The fans over there are going apeshit because Bioware will not release any extra endings or epilogues.

They're just going to expand the game itself and add a few more snippets of story here and there to spell out the ending for people who found it confusing. Although given how this game seems to be telegraphing it's conclusion it seems that it's not a case that fans were caught off guard but rather the story didn't go the way they'd hoped.

So I doubt this DLC will do anything to make those that hated the ending any happier.

But I'll know when I get there. I just have a funny feeling the ending will be exactly what I'm expecting.

Yeah, you should go ahead and finish it to better understand the outcry. I haven't seen many people complaining because the ending is not happy enough for them, really. At least not anyone with any sort of maturity at all.

The problem is that the entire ending sequence is poorly written, poorly implemented, and does not make any logical sense whatsoever for the most part.

And I say this as someone who is apathetic about the ending. I don't have strong feelings about it either way. Hell, I prefer tragic endings over happy ones usually. This one is just laughably weak and forgettable on nearly every level.



I used it once early on, said "hey that is awesome," and never talked to my game again. Pushing buttons is just faster than saying it, which doesn't seem like a problem Kinect can ever overcome for any sort of action game.

just beat this today and wow can't believe how much complaining is going on about the ending

thought it was awesome

only issues i had were



other than that really enjoyed it, really enjoyed the game, best video game trilogy ever

don't plan on going back through and playing it again, i beat games and never play them again, just the way i am