Well, it's not like this discussion is limited to this thread. There's a similar discussion going on at CAG, and one on Bitmob a few weeks ago. I'm sure it's taking place on a lot of forums.

Hmmm... I wonder if there is a Ruffian Games forum.

Oooooooh. I'm still in for the game but that kinda sucks.

They did the same thing for the first game/demo.

Well...I'm only referencing the discussion here.

So slop's point still stands. The fact that we are even having this discussion (anywhere on the net) speaks volumes about Crackdown 1.5 2.

It's still called Liberty City, but the Liberty City in GTAIV is a completely different map (one that's modeled after NYC and it's boroughs) than the Liberty City in GTA3, which was based on NYC, but not at all modeled after it like GTA4 was.

Yes, but if someone starts a discussion and then points out the fact the discussion is happening and it speaks ill of the game it's still a self fulfilling prophecy situation. IMO. Everyone is welcome to their opinions. I just see a bit of conjuring happening.

Hey, I was ecstatic when they announced Crackdown2 and really wanted to like the game, but after playing the demo, I'd rather just restart the first game.

I love the demo. I'm fine with more of the same, so this is good to go for me.

Best Buy's new magazine @Gamer gave the game a 4.5/5. Of course the editor note in the sidebar also says "One thing I'm curious about is how CD2 handles co-op." The entire thing reads like a press release, not a review.

This magazine is a fucking joke. *shocker*

I liked the demo until the freaks are introduced. I hate them, and not in a good way. I think they're enough to keep me away.

I want the game but canceled my pre-order. I still have Alan Wake and Bioshock 2 to get to among others. Plus with all the negative feedback the demo is garnering, I smell a $40 sale within a couple weeks.

I'm not sure what negative feedback there is but we actually had a good time (three of us) playing the demo. sure the look is not by any means amazing but there's allot going on and allot to do. Instead of two against each other there's three plus not to mention the "citizens" you have to protect.

There's also another firm that's been given the duty of getting more DLC out before the game has hit the shelves which is good sign...hopefully working on more stuff as we speak....which means quicker to get in place. Sure the graphics will hurt a bit but I won't be surprised if this gets a average score of 8.7 which I can live with.

I see it being more of an 8.6 average. Will that be a problem?

I loved the first game, but as others have said, sandbox games have come a ways since then, and I'm having a blast with Lego Harry Potter, still have to finish Alan Wake and Red Dead Redemption, and can wait for this to drop in price.

I played for about 3 hours so far and have finished up a good part of the "story". I say "story" since there really isn't one. The game consists of running up to a terrorist controlled square and killing them all to regain control, or running to 3 beams of light to destruct a bomb and kill some mutants. That's it. Two things over and over and over and over. Sure, you can drive a car in some races, or jump for orbs...but that sucked in the first game. At least the first game had a story, rival gangs and bosses....this has nothing. I'm sad

I still haven't played the demo (damn Gamestop, hurry up with my 360 slim) but I think I'll pass on the game for now as well.

The first one was fun but not anything groundbreaking.

Going by that, this really could've just as easily been DLC to the last game.

That's being incredibly generous.

EDIT: Also, I thought orb finding was one of the best parts of the original Crackdown.

So what's to stop us from starting a new game with the first Crackdown and getting the orbs? It's not like any one memorized where they were. Or they could've just as easily had DLC that rearranged orb positions, which is what this "sequel" seems to have done.

I think we need a more precise rating system. Crackdown is not an 8.7, and it's not an 8.6. Clearly it deserves an 8.666666667.

for what it is worth


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffSDkIAJY3o

Well, I just finished it this morning. Took about 8 hours and that's with finding over 300 orbs and screwing around. This should have been DLC 2 years ago for the first Crackdown. I'm honestly shocked at how little there is to do in this game.

Nothing. No one's putting a gun to your head one way or the other, are they?

Well...I found two early reviews, one at IGN and the other over at Gamespot and way off my estimated 8.7 score.

IGN - 7.5
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/110/1103430p1.html


Gamespot - 7.0
http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/acti...tle%3B1&page=2


There's already five of us getting it but who knows. i'll see how others treat it. players reviews and actually play it for a wait & see approach. Sorry to see and read the scores though.