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Anubis2005X 03-09-11 01:13 PM

Re: The Official PS3 thread - Software bugs? We don't need no software bugs
 
Fantastic news about the cloud saving. Now there's no real need to worry about losing my copy-protected saves if my PS3 dies. Granted, this wouldn't be such a pain in the ass if I could just take the old hard drive and put it in a new PS3 without it formatting, but whatever...

pinata242 03-09-11 01:15 PM

Re: The Official PS3 thread - Software bugs? We don't need no software bugs
 
What does the copy protection actually do? Is there any encryption in the files that prevent them being used on a different console?

Maxflier 03-09-11 01:30 PM

Re: The Official PS3 thread - Software bugs? We don't need no software bugs
 
Anyone having problems signing into PSN? I was trying at lunch and it kept coming up with an error.

***edit*** nevermind, I just read somewhere that PSN is down for a while today.

DarthVong 03-09-11 02:41 PM

Re: The Official PS3 thread - Software bugs? We don't need no software bugs
 
http://us.playstation.com/support/an...x.htm?a_id=312

PlayStationŽNetwork will be temporarily unavailable due to scheduled maintenance until 7:00 pm PDT on Wednesday, March 9, 2011. Find out more.
PlayStation Network will be down for maintenance March 9, 2011 8:00 AM - 7:00 PM PT More Details

PlayStationŽ Knowledge Center
***PlayStation Network Maintenance on March 9, 2011***
Answer ID: 312 Product: PlayStationŽNetwork-Network Status

The PlayStation Network will be taken offline for maintenance on Wednesday, March 9, 2011, for approximately 11 hours during the following maintenance window:

Down Time (Start): Wednesday, March 9, 8:00 AM, Pacific Time
Down Time (End): Wednesday, March 9, 7:00 PM, Pacific Time

shumway 03-09-11 05:28 PM

Re: The Official PS3 thread - Software bugs? We don't need no software bugs
 
My son just sent me a text that PSN appears to be back up. I told him that it may just go back down so enjoy it while you can...

Anubis2005X 03-09-11 07:10 PM

Re: The Official PS3 thread - Software bugs? We don't need no software bugs
 
Stupid me. I updated the firmware tonight and couldn't for the life of me see where the Cloud Saving part was. It turns out that Version 3.56 is voluntary firmware that I downloaded, and Version 3.6 isn't out until tomorrow, bah...

Decker 03-09-11 07:12 PM

Re: The Official PS3 thread - Software bugs? We don't need no software bugs
 
Very happy about the cloud save. PS+ is really the gift that keeps on giving.

pinata242 03-09-11 10:01 PM

Re: The Official PS3 thread - Software bugs? We don't need no software bugs
 
Fuck your avatar. Did you call Coach?

Brooklyn 03-09-11 10:34 PM

Re: The Official PS3 thread - Software bugs? We don't need no software bugs
 

Originally Posted by Anubis2005X (Post 10673069)
Stupid me. I updated the firmware tonight and couldn't for the life of me see where the Cloud Saving part was. It turns out that Version 3.56 is voluntary firmware that I downloaded, and Version 3.6 isn't out until tomorrow, bah...

It's up now

Decker 03-10-11 12:25 AM

Re: The Official PS3 thread - Software bugs? We don't need no software bugs
 

Originally Posted by pinata242 (Post 10673245)
Fuck your avatar. Did you call Coach?

I tried but his attorney claims it's a violation of the restraining order he put out on me after the 2008 tournament.

Eric D. 03-10-11 02:28 AM

Re: The Official PS3 thread - Software bugs? We don't need no software bugs
 
Man, I don't like how they are forcing you too keep paying for PS+ if you want continued access to your cloud saves. I could see not being allowed to save any more once your subscription lapses, but you should still have access to the ones you paid for. That's a really shady tactic.

glassdragon 03-10-11 04:49 AM

Re: The Official PS3 thread - Software bugs? We don't need no software bugs
 

Originally Posted by Eric D. (Post 10673474)
Man, I don't like how they are forcing you too keep paying for PS+ if you want continued access to your cloud saves. I could see not being allowed to save any more once your subscription lapses, but you should still have access to the ones you paid for. That's a really shady tactic.

No its not. It is a perk of ps+ why do you think you should be able to use it in any capacity after you cancel?

People are acting like if they quit ps+ it will delete all their local saves too. Its the same argument people had about the free ps+ games, that argument didnt hold water either.

You are paying for a service. No company on earth is going to allow you to keep using the perks of said service if you stop paying them

Not shady in the slightest bit

Sorry but Sony adds a nice optional perk for the paying members and someone always has to complain. Its kind of annoying

Drexl 03-10-11 07:53 AM

Re: The Official PS3 thread - Software bugs? We don't need no software bugs
 
I tried out the Online Storage for saves. You have to upload save files manually and individually. I wish they would add a way to upload multiple saves at once, but they have never done this for USB flash/HDD so I don't expect that to change. Uploading is slow, but that might just be my connection which is only 512kbps for uploading.

BTW, apparently it doesn't work for Minis because I don't see the OS option there.

Decker 03-10-11 09:08 AM

Re: The Official PS3 thread - Software bugs? We don't need no software bugs
 
I tried it as well. Wasn't too slow for me. It's actually a pretty nice feature. I also wish you could pick "Copy All", but this is do-able. Also wish you could have some sort of dynamic back up to the cloud. In any case, it's nice to know that all my game saves will be safe in case my Pinto suddenly explodes.

fujishig 03-10-11 10:00 AM

Re: The Official PS3 thread - Software bugs? We don't need no software bugs
 
So is there a list of non-transferable saves out there, so we can prioritize?

Decker 03-10-11 10:38 AM

Re: The Official PS3 thread - Software bugs? We don't need no software bugs
 

Originally Posted by fujishig (Post 10673810)
So is there a list of non-transferable saves out there, so we can prioritize?

Click Here

Spoiler:

• 50 Cent: Blood on the Sand
• Assassins Creed 2
• Batman: Arkham Asylum
• Bomberman Ultra
• Brain Challenge
• Burnout Paradise
• Call of Duty: World at War (mixed reports)
• Call of Juarez: Bound in Blood
• Crash Commando
• Dark Mist
• Demons Souls
• DJ Hero
• Dragonball Z Burst Limit
• The Eye Of Judgment
• Fat Princess
• Fight Night Round 4
• Godfather 2
• Guitar Hero: Metallica
• Guitar Hero World Tour
• Heavy Rain
• High Velocity Bowling
• Juiced 2: Hot Import Nights
• Killzone 2
• LocoRoco Cocoreccho!
• Lost Planet: Extreme Condition
• Mega Man 9
• Mercenaries 2: World In Flames
• Mortal Kombat 2
• Namco Museum Essentials
• NCAA Football 10
• Need For Speed: Carbon
• Need For Speed: Pro Street
• Need For Speed: Shift
• Rock Band
• Rock Band 2
• Saboteur
• Sam and Max: The Devil's Playhouse
• Singstar
• Skate 2
• Sonic & SEGA All-Stars Racing
• Sonic's Ultimate Genesis Collection (ingame savestates are protected)
• Soul Calibur IV
• Star Ocean: The Last Hope International
• Street Fighter II Turbo HD
• Street Fighter IV
• Super Puzzle Fighter II Turbo HD Remix
• Super Street Fighter II Turbo HD Remix
• Tekken 5: Dark Resurrection Online (mixed reports)
• Tomb Raider: Anniversary
• Tom Clancy’s Rainbow Six Vegas 2
• UFC: Undisputed
• Vampire Rain - Altered Species
• Wolfenstein

Patched PS3 Game Saves (to Remove Copy Protection):

• MotorStorm: Pacfic Rift
• Resident Evil 5

Eric D. 03-10-11 03:54 PM

Re: The Official PS3 thread - Software bugs? We don't need no software bugs
 

Originally Posted by glassdragon (Post 10673517)
No its not. It is a perk of ps+ why do you think you should be able to use it in any capacity after you cancel?

People are acting like if they quit ps+ it will delete all their local saves too. Its the same argument people had about the free ps+ games, that argument didnt hold water either.

You are paying for a service. No company on earth is going to allow you to keep using the perks of said service if you stop paying them

Not shady in the slightest bit

Sorry but Sony adds a nice optional perk for the paying members and someone always has to complain. Its kind of annoying

And somebody always has to defend the big corporation, which is even more annoying. I understand and agree that you should lose access to the cloud save service once your sub runs out. But you should not lose access to the game saves you already have. Do they at least give you a chance to transfer them back to your HDD before it locks you out? Because what happens then is you lose all your saves in those games unless you continue to pay for them.

dsa_shea 03-10-11 04:01 PM

Re: The Official PS3 thread - Software bugs? We don't need no software bugs
 
Although you backup your saves to the cloud system you should leave the original save on your PS3. The only time you really should have to download the backed up save is in case of a system failure or a system swap. Also, has anyone even tried to see if you can download your protected saves to a different system than the one you uploaded them from?

Drexl 03-10-11 04:18 PM

Re: The Official PS3 thread - Software bugs? We don't need no software bugs
 

Originally Posted by dsa_shea (Post 10674365)
Although you backup your saves to the cloud system you should leave the original save on your PS3.

Yeah, if you don't leave the file on the PS3, the game won't be able to use it.

The saves are still managed by the games locally, as they always have. This new feature just allows you to back them up to online storage, in the same fashion as you can to a USB flash or hard drive, except that copy protected saves are also transferable.

glassdragon 03-10-11 04:18 PM

Re: The Official PS3 thread - Software bugs? We don't need no software bugs
 

Originally Posted by dsa_shea (Post 10674365)
Although you backup your saves to the cloud system you should leave the original save on your PS3. The only time you really should have to download the backed up save is in case of a system failure or a system swap. Also, has anyone even tried to see if you can download your protected saves to a different system than the one you uploaded them from?

This

Eric do you understand the definition of "backup"?

I assume not


a copy or duplicate version, especially of a file, program, or entire computer system, retained for use in the event that the original is in some way rendered unusable.
You are NOT saving everything to the cloud only. you are backing them up in the case of your system dying. Now I would appreciate you controlling your vitriol when it was your misunderstanding of the service, not mine

Decker 03-10-11 04:32 PM

Re: The Official PS3 thread - Software bugs? We don't need no software bugs
 
There's not even an option to transfer your game saves to the cloud, only one to copy them there. I suppose you could transfer to the cloud, then separately delete your local game saves, but that would be very idiotic and entirely your fault. You can't play games off the online storage game saves, you can only re-download them to your PS3 (and only once per 24 hours for most games for some odd reason, BTW)

pinata242 03-10-11 04:37 PM

Re: The Official PS3 thread - Software bugs? We don't need no software bugs
 
The only drawback, imo, is that it isn't automatic. But since it was patched in later, I can understand. The next gen hardware better have this option across the board.

Eric D. 03-10-11 05:09 PM

Re: The Official PS3 thread - Software bugs? We don't need no software bugs
 

Originally Posted by glassdragon (Post 10674391)
This

Eric do you understand the definition of "backup"?

I assume not



You are NOT saving everything to the cloud only. you are backing them up in the case of your system dying. Now I would appreciate you controlling your vitriol when it was your misunderstanding of the service, not mine

My vitriol?!? Are you kidding me? I stated an opinion and you came at me with with a very condescending and obnoxious post, just like you continue to do so now. I'm actually a little taken back at how angry you are. Other people explained to me how my original understanding of the service was wrong without even being remotely rude. You have some serious issues, brother.

Liver&Onions 03-10-11 05:16 PM

Re: The Official PS3 thread - Software bugs? We don't need no software bugs
 
*cough*

chase3001 03-10-11 06:18 PM

Re: The Official PS3 thread - Software bugs? We don't need no software bugs
 

Originally Posted by Decker (Post 10674403)
you can only re-download them to your PS3 (and only once per 24 hours for most games for some odd reason, BTW)

I believe the ones that can only be downloaded once per 24hr period, are the ones that are copy protected.


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