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fujishig 04-27-11 01:35 AM

Re: The Official PS3 thread - Software bugs? We don't need no software bugs
 
Wait, so the credit card information is sent in clear text? So are people at risk only if they transmitted CC information while the hackers were in the system (begging the question, how long were they in there undetected), or is that just another loophole and this was really some kind of database hack like I originally thought? Also, was this information out in January, because I certainly didn't know about it.

I also hope that chat log bit is fake because that also has the security code, which they said was absolutely not compromised, in the open.

glassdragon 04-27-11 01:57 AM

Re: The Official PS3 thread - Software bugs? We don't need no software bugs
 

Originally Posted by MoviePage (Post 10743960)
I'm pretty sure it is, actually.

EVERYTHING can be hacked, if it can be made, it can be hacked. There is absolutely no way to know every contingency. With all the software they are probably using, there are probably tons of holes in them that no one knows about. You can't expect them to know every hole in every program, half of which they probably aren't the ones who made.

Saying they should have been unhackable is foolish, nothing is unhackable given the correct talent.

Now, I'm not saying that they handled this well by any means, but thinking that there is any computer program/network that can't be hacked given the right knowledge is a fallacy. I remember one point where they said the ps3 was impossible to hack, it was hacked. I remember an article where nintendo said the 3ds was unhackable with their new technology, it was hacked on release day.

There really is no stopping it, if someone wants to get in your system and they are smart enough, they will, and there's likely nothing you can do about it.

If it's plain text then yeah, they need some kind of fine for that. No encryption on credit card information is pretty atrocious.

dizzlle01 04-27-11 02:48 AM

Re: The Official PS3 thread - Software bugs? We don't need no software bugs
 
I still cant get netflix working. Anyone else have any problem connecting?

TheBigDave 04-27-11 02:50 AM

Re: The Official PS3 thread - Software bugs? We don't need no software bugs
 
Hulu Plus sent out emails offering subscribers a free week ($2 credit) due to PSN downtime. But the credit isn't automatic. You have to click on the link inside the email to activate the credit. So if you're a Hulu+ subscriber, don't delete that email.

UncleGramps 04-27-11 05:45 AM

Re: The Official PS3 thread - Software bugs? We don't need no software bugs
 
I can't believe that there are actually people defending ANYTHING about how Sony handled this entire situation. Ridiculous.

mhg83 04-27-11 07:42 AM

Re: The Official PS3 thread - Software bugs? We don't need no software bugs
 
Wtf sony?! I have to wait till psn is back up in order to change my password?! In all the years ps3 been around they never set up a site to control my account like microsoft does with xbox.com?!

Groucho 04-27-11 07:43 AM

Re: The Official PS3 thread - Software bugs? We don't need no software bugs
 

Originally Posted by UncleGramps (Post 10744364)
I can't believe that there are actually people defending ANYTHING about how Sony handled this entire situation. Ridiculous.

Is it? Aside from exposing the personal and financial information of 75 million people in plain text, what have they done wrong? Let's focus on the positives, and not forget that PS3 is still the only system that has giant enemy crabs.

Anubis2005X 04-27-11 08:15 AM

Re: The Official PS3 thread - Software bugs? We don't need no software bugs
 

Originally Posted by Groucho (Post 10744419)
Is it? Aside from exposing the personal and financial information of 75 million people in plain text, what have they done wrong? Let's focus on the positives, and not forget that PS3 is still the only system that has giant enemy crabs.

Riiiiiiiiiidge RACER!

Michael Corvin 04-27-11 08:37 AM

Re: The Official PS3 thread - Software bugs? We don't need no software bugs
 

Originally Posted by MoviePage (Post 10744251)
Some funnies from Twitter, as reported by Kotaku (and some others):

:lol: Those are gold. Loved this one too:

"At Sony we believe in an open platform. A very open platform." -fake Kaz Hirai

dvdjunkie32 04-27-11 08:38 AM

Re: The Official PS3 thread - Software bugs? We don't need no software bugs
 
Fucking nightmare for me as I used my bank debit card with PSN. I got tired of buying PSN cards and unable to get a real credit card.

Even worse, my bank is out of state which will make it difficult to cancel the card and get a new one.

glassdragon 04-27-11 08:42 AM

Re: The Official PS3 thread - Software bugs? We don't need no software bugs
 

Originally Posted by UncleGramps (Post 10744364)
I can't believe that there are actually people defending ANYTHING about how Sony handled this entire situation. Ridiculous.

I'm not mad that they got hacked as it is part of being online, it happens. I'm just a bit upset about how they handled it. That leaves a lot to be
desired.


Originally Posted by mhg83 (Post 10744418)
Wtf sony?! I have to wait till psn is back up in order to change my password?! In all the years ps3 been around they never set up a site to control my account like microsoft does with xbox.com?!

There IS a website, unfortunately it was taken down also, so you can't log in there either.

Michael Corvin 04-27-11 08:50 AM

Re: The Official PS3 thread - Software bugs? We don't need no software bugs
 

Originally Posted by dvdjunkie32 (Post 10744493)
Even worse, my bank is out of state which will make it difficult to cancel the card and get a new one.

What state has abandoned telephones?

edstein 04-27-11 09:22 AM

Re: The Official PS3 thread - Software bugs? We don't need no software bugs
 
Netflix IS working for me.

Cardiff Giant11 04-27-11 09:23 AM

Re: The Official PS3 thread - Software bugs? We don't need no software bugs
 

Originally Posted by SoonerDoc (Post 10744215)
I am not so concerned about my CC number getting stolen. That is an easy fix. If someone starts charging on that account, my CC company will take care of me, especially with the knowledge of this extensive breach.

Much more frightening to me is the thought of identity theft. With names, addresses, birthdates, emails and all the other shit they mentioned, I am concerned about someone setting up NEW credit accounts in your name. They can go crazy and by the time it is found out, your credit is toast.

This is god damn ridiculous.

Unless they target you with and attempt to get your SSN via a fraudulent email or phone call, the chances of that are pretty minimal I think as I believe that info is needed for everything.

Anubis2005X 04-27-11 09:33 AM

Re: The Official PS3 thread - Software bugs? We don't need no software bugs
 

Originally Posted by edstein (Post 10744584)
Netflix IS working for me.

Yeah, it's kinda messy and takes a few tries, but I can use it as well.

mattysemo247 04-27-11 10:26 AM

Re: The Official PS3 thread - Software bugs? We don't need no software bugs
 
Alright, I think it’s time for a thread title change for this massive fuck up.

So I only used my credit card once to buy something years ago on PSN (PJM), is there any way of checking to see which credit card I used at that time or if it’s still on file anywhere? Because I’m not even sure at that time that there was an option of storing your CC info for future purchases.

glassdragon 04-27-11 10:35 AM

Re: The Official PS3 thread - Software bugs? We don't need no software bugs
 

Originally Posted by mattysemo247 (Post 10744701)
Alright, I think it’s time for a thread title change for this massive fuck up.

So I only used my credit card once to buy something years ago on PSN (PJM), is there any way of checking to see which credit card I used at that time or if it’s still on file anywhere? Because I’m not even sure at that time that there was an option of storing your CC info for future purchases.

Not until psn comes back up, the site is down along with psn. Only option is to see if you can find your email receipt from then as mentioned earlier as it will have the last 4, but that won't tell you if it got saved or not.

Laser Movies 04-27-11 10:56 AM

Re: The Official PS3 thread - Software bugs? We don't need no software bugs
 
I just discovered this thread existed last night. I only use my PS3 for blu-rays and streaming. Never played a game on it. I figured something was wrong with the PSN since I was having some problems getting into Netflix. Thankfully I can still stream movies. I'm glad I never gave them my credit card information.

fujishig 04-27-11 12:00 PM

Re: The Official PS3 thread - Software bugs? We don't need no software bugs
 

Originally Posted by glassdragon (Post 10744729)
Not until psn comes back up, the site is down along with psn. Only option is to see if you can find your email receipt from then as mentioned earlier as it will have the last 4, but that won't tell you if it got saved or not.

I checked some of the emails from my PSN purchases and didn't see any sign of credit card information...

I think pretty much every local news station had this story featured last night, so the masses are going to start panicking whether or not they got an email.

redbill 04-27-11 12:40 PM

Re: The Official PS3 thread - Encryption? We don't need no stinkin' encryption.
 
you need the email from adding funds to your wallet not from your purchases. Search for subject line:

Funds have been added to your wallet

fujishig 04-27-11 12:50 PM

Re: The Official PS3 thread - Encryption? We don't need no stinkin' encryption.
 

Originally Posted by redbill (Post 10744970)
you need the email from adding funds to your wallet not from your purchases. Search for subject line:

Funds have been added to your wallet

Thanks, found it! But it has the first four digits AND The last four digits... I guess it makes no difference at this point, but wth?

Raul3 04-27-11 01:15 PM

Re: The Official PS3 thread - Encryption? We don't need no stinkin' encryption.
 
If one of the previous posts is true, can you say that:

- If you haven't added any funds this year (i.e. used your CC for a PSN transaction), you MAY be safe?

Raul3 04-27-11 01:15 PM

Re: The Official PS3 thread - Encryption? We don't need no stinkin' encryption.
 
If one of the previous posts is true, can you say that:

- If you haven't added any funds this year (i.e. used your CC for a PSN transaction), you MAY be safe?

Raul3 04-27-11 01:18 PM

Re: The Official PS3 thread - Encryption? We don't need no stinkin' encryption.
 
FAQ:

http://us.playstation.com/support/an....htm?a_id=2356

fujishig 04-27-11 01:26 PM

Re: The Official PS3 thread - Encryption? We don't need no stinkin' encryption.
 

12. There seems to be some games that cannot be played even offline?
Some games may require access to PSN for trophy sync, security checks or other network functionality and therefore cannot be played offline.
I know the capcom final fight PSN downloadable has some kind of DRM that prevents it from being played offline, but trophy syncs, really?


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