Exactly. It doesn't make any sense to me. He's just pissed b/c he doesn't want anything to screw up playing Mass Effect 3 next week.

Because profiles aren't tied to a console. The content license is shared between the purchasing profile (regardless of console) and the console that originally downloaded it.

Last I checked, you had to log into the profile to play the game you bought on it every time, and that isn't going to happen when he gets his account back, changes his password and reties it to his 360. The only way to play on that console without logging in on that profile is to do the profile thing on it and that can only be done i want to say once every 6 months

That is incorrect. If you're on the console it was first downloaded on, anyone can play it. It's basically a "family" license.

Wow, that seems like a horrible policy, it should only play on the system that bought it without logging in where the serial of the tied system matches the one tied on live.

If the other console DLed it first, that console can play it without having to be logged into it. The license like said before is 2 parts user and console. The profile with the user license can play on any console. The console with the console license allows any user on that console to play. The first console to download a purchase gets the console license.


Looks like I was beaten to it.

I see, except for the fact that MS can see the console ID of the system that downloaded it first and quickly ban it during the investigation. Doesn't seem worth it to possibly have your whole console banned from live.

So it should be more restrictive?

You're blaming this slightly-more-open-DRM on the actions of the hackers. They're the ones exploiting it. Would locking it down help? Probably. Would it solve everything? Who knows.

They're handling the hacks quickly, if first-hand experiences in this thread can be believed. No one is out any actual money, just time and convenience.

But if we haven't learned to not trust these VG systems with our financial information yet, that's on us just as much.

That's true, but it wouldn't restrict you since you are playing it on your own system when you buy it so you wouldn't have to log in. It would stop you from buying something at a friends house and letting him play it for free, but you probably shouldn't do that anyways. All it would really do is stop the hacking. If you are legitimately buying stuff on your system then yes, it should be a family license, but it should NOT be if it sees a foreign system that it doesn't know. That is what the license transfer should be for so you can change those "family licenses" to your new system if you get another one or something. They could very easily restrict the buying to only the main system tied to live, or make you log in every time if it isn't the same console. It can't be that hard.

Hey, remember when these things died every other weekend? How annoying would that have been if you had to be connected to live to play something on your new xbox before they had the license migration tool or even before you could use it more than once a year

I agree, buying it at a friends house and then both having access is shady as fuck. Almost as shady as "license sharing" with 4 other consoles

Which you can only do on 2 consoles now to account for some houses having 2 systems.

I don't share on psn either as I agree that it was pretty shady

And yeah, when the red ring was prevalent then this may have been a good policy to save some time and work, but now that they mostly have that worked out, there is no real reason to keep it that way. That's all I'm saying.

Yeah, I've never quite understood how there's a sticky thread promoting it on CAG. I know the site is called cheap ass for a reason, but there's a difference between deals and blatantly ripping companies off.

Holy shit. My friend who I posted about getting hacked got his account back last night. This morning he woke up to find his account was hacked again with five more games downloaded. To top it off when he called MS they said the previous breach was not a hack and refused to give him a refund. They resubmitted his claim again but I told him to refute with his cc company.

homie needs to change his password.

He has done that. Every time. His latest password was crazy intricate. Hmmmm. He just said he got some weird security warning on his phone when he went to xbox.com. A security scan found nothing. This is getting weirder and weirder.

Those can be cracked easier than choosing four english words at random and stringing them together.

I am about 99% certain that he has a keylogger somewhere. Not sure where, but there is one there. That is the only way they are still getting it, especially if it's crazy intricate.

That's what I was deducing. It was either that or someone has access to his wifi at home and is snooping on what he was doing, but considering the area he is in, I thought that was pretty unlikely. I told him to wipe his phone and reset all his passwords after he resets his router. No idea what he's going to do, though.

And, here's one that people don't usually think of


Have him use a different email address. If they have access to his email address they can easily do a forgot your password on the site, access the email to click the link they send and reset it. Then all they have to do is permanently delete the reset email and no one knows the difference.

A lot of people overlook this when they are looking for stuff like this, and if it still happens after wiping everything i am willing to bet that this is the case.

Good suggestion. I will tell him to do that as well.

That would explain why MS doesn't think it's a hack if they saw the password reset through their email link.

Another good point. I'll bring these up to him.

If he uses gmail then on the bottom right have him click the link by activity. If they are doing this with the email then you will see ip's from different states, or even from a different country. If that is the case then they are definitely doing it through his email.

I set up my boy with a child Live account (since he's, you know, a child.)
How do I set it up so he can play online?
Also, does Rock Band 3 allow "piggyback" playing over live? That is, one player on one machine with Gold, but other players can play on that same machine online with the gold member, but appear as "Guest".

1) Only if he's gold

2) Yes, my brother and sister-in-law play local together and I join them all the time.