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Old 10-12-10 | 03:12 PM
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Re: Chuckd21's Project Natal thread. AKA Kinect

Originally Posted by superfro
The movie of my life will use that tagline.
Yeah? Did someone already use "An Awesome Adventure in Awesomeness"?
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Re: Chuckd21's Project Natal thread. AKA Kinect

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Yeah? Did someone already use "An Awesome Adventure in Awesomeness"?
Pretty much

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Re: Chuckd21's Project Natal thread. AKA Kinect

Originally Posted by superfro
Actually it's all Slaughter.
Ashes to Ashes, Dust to Dust.

There is your song playing through the credits.


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Getting back to Kinect, has anyone read any preview that indicates this can actually work as a functional game rather than just as a tech demo? It's really close to launch and I haven't yet.
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Re: Chuckd21's Project Natal thread. AKA Kinect

The only games I've heard lots of positive buzz for are Dance Central and Your Shape.
Old 10-12-10 | 06:52 PM
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Re: Chuckd21's Project Natal thread. AKA Kinect

Originally Posted by UncleGramps
The only games I've heard lots of positive buzz for are Dance Central and Your Shape.
Positive buzz like "This game really works and is fun to play!" or positive like "This game has potential, but needs a lot of work before launch"?
Old 10-12-10 | 08:14 PM
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Re: Chuckd21's Project Natal thread. AKA Kinect

More like positive in a "Kinect will look great next to the WiiFit Board, in the closet" kind of way.
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Originally Posted by Decker
Positive buzz like "This game really works and is fun to play!" or positive like "This game has potential, but needs a lot of work before launch"?
For those two games, mostly the former. At least from what I've read.
Old 10-21-10 | 06:27 PM
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First Kinect demo on Gamespot's On The Spot at about the 5 minute mark. Sonic Free Riders.

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Doesn't look too great, but I guess it sort of works. Kinda.
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Re: Chuckd21's Project Natal thread. AKA Kinect

Kinect begs for a SSX revival.
Old 10-21-10 | 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Liver&Onions
We need a SSX revival, not necessarily for Kinect.
Fixed.
Old 10-21-10 | 07:20 PM
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mod note: Do not "fix" other posts. You've been warned before.
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First Kinect game review is up. Sonic Free Riders. Gets a 7.5 from IGN. Better than I expected by checking out the demo on Gamespot.
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IGN Ratings for Sonic Free Riders (X360)
Rating Description
out of 10 Click here for ratings guide
6.0 Presentation
The menus are poorly designed, though the voice commands save it. Lots of nods to SEGA games of the past.
8.0 Graphics
The tracks look great and the game is fluid and fast-paced.
7.0 Sound
The music is fun and nearly every line of the game is voice acted, with varying degrees of success.
7.0 Gameplay
The motion controls make it hard to just jump into the game, but they're fun once you've got the hang of everything.
7.5 Lasting Appeal
Dozens of boards and gear parts to unlock, plus online and local multiplayer modes.
7.5
OVERALL


Good
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Old 11-01-10 | 06:41 PM
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Re: Chuckd21's Project Natal thread. AKA Kinect

Originally Posted by Decker
First Kinect game review is up. Sonic Free Riders. Gets a 7.5 from IGN. Better than I expected by checking out the demo on Gamespot.
Only a point lower than Rock Band 3. Winner!
Old 11-02-10 | 11:39 AM
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Still no online review for the hardware or other games. I thought this article was pretty telling. Basically, MS expects bad reviews and doesn't seem to care. Yet they still have done their best to keep the reviews from coming out early or even on-time.

MS expects critical and commercial mismatch
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Aaron Greenberg confesses that review scores for Kinect launch titles might not be great, but sales will be strong

Xbox 360 platform holder Microsoft has admitted that the review scores for some of its Kinect launch titles are unlikely to match the adulation given to the likes of Halo Reach – but that it won’t affect their performance at retail.

“For us, these are different types of titles and experiences than maybe some of the games traditionally that are targeted to the core market,” chief of staff for Microsoft's interactive entertainment business Aaron Greenberg told Eurogamer.

“So the correlation between a review score for Halo: Reach and sales is very high, but Kinect Sports is more about just having fun.

“I don't know how reviewers will grade those games because they're so unique and so different to what the reviewers have played with controllers. We'd love to see great reviews but I don't think you'll see the same type of correlation between reviews and actual sales of the game, would be my guess.”

When asked if he is nervous about the potential critical response, Greenberg responded: “I'm not nervous. I know what the media thinks; we know they love Dance Central, we've heard they think it's the killer app. They're excited about Child of Eden. We've even had a lot of good feedback for Kinectimals from the core.”
Old 11-03-10 | 12:11 PM
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Re: Chuckd21's Project Natal thread. AKA Kinect

FWIW, Burger King has a Kinect promo going right now. Cups and fry boxes have codes you can text to win a Kinect Console Bundle.

They also have 6 different Kinectimals stuffed animals in the kids meal. How a Kinectimal is different than a Beanie Baby, I have no idea.
Old 11-03-10 | 12:25 PM
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If you register for the promo at the BK website, you get 6 free codes.
Old 11-03-10 | 12:35 PM
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Re: Chuckd21's Project Natal thread. AKA Kinect

For the lazy:

Register at BKKinect.com the go here to get your free codes.
Old 11-03-10 | 01:37 PM
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Re: Chuckd21's Project Natal thread. AKA Kinect

Thanks!

Didn't win.
Old 11-03-10 | 02:10 PM
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Re: Chuckd21's Project Natal thread. AKA Kinect

Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
FWIW, Burger King has a Kinect promo going right now. Cups and fry boxes have codes you can text to win a Kinect Console Bundle.

They also have 6 different Kinectimals stuffed animals in the kids meal. How a Kinectimal is different than a Beanie Baby, I have no idea.
I bought 2 of the kinectimal kids meal toys today. Some of the animals are plastic toys and some are stuffed animals.
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Re: Chuckd21's Project Natal thread. AKA Kinect

Originally Posted by Decker
Still no online review for the hardware or other games. I thought this article was pretty telling. Basically, MS expects bad reviews and doesn't seem to care. Yet they still have done their best to keep the reviews from coming out early or even on-time.

MS expects critical and commercial mismatch
by Ben Parfitt




Aaron Greenberg confesses that review scores for Kinect launch titles might not be great, but sales will be strong

Xbox 360 platform holder Microsoft has admitted that the review scores for some of its Kinect launch titles are unlikely to match the adulation given to the likes of Halo Reach – but that it won’t affect their performance at retail.

“For us, these are different types of titles and experiences than maybe some of the games traditionally that are targeted to the core market,” chief of staff for Microsoft's interactive entertainment business Aaron Greenberg told Eurogamer.

“So the correlation between a review score for Halo: Reach and sales is very high, but Kinect Sports is more about just having fun.

“I don't know how reviewers will grade those games because they're so unique and so different to what the reviewers have played with controllers. We'd love to see great reviews but I don't think you'll see the same type of correlation between reviews and actual sales of the game, would be my guess.”

When asked if he is nervous about the potential critical response, Greenberg responded: “I'm not nervous. I know what the media thinks; we know they love Dance Central, we've heard they think it's the killer app. They're excited about Child of Eden. We've even had a lot of good feedback for Kinectimals from the core.”
Several of the Move games are rated low (6 and under at IGN) and my father-in-law likes them alot.
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Re: Chuckd21's Project Natal thread. AKA Kinect

I'm sure the producers of the Twilight films also expect (and don't mind) a critical and commercial mismatch.
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yeah, I think that's fair. These games probably won't be that appealing to the folks that give review scores. But if the reviews indicate that the tech doesn't work, that's a problem. The Move reviews weren't good except for Move Champions, but everyone seemed to agree that at least the teck works pretty well. And give Sony credit for giving out lots of review copies and allowing reviews weeks early. MS has prohibited any early reviews of the software or games. That would seem to indicate that they at some level cared about getting bad scores.
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Re: Chuckd21's Project Natal thread. AKA Kinect

Originally Posted by Decker
yeah, I think that's fair. These games probably won't be that appealing to the folks that give review scores. But if the reviews indicate that the tech doesn't work, that's a problem. .
That's the big X factor to me. Is the embargo for shitty reviews or is the embargo because the tech is crap?
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First official Kinect Review is up
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The Kinect hits shelves tomorrow and will be bundled with the Xbox 360 Slim. Those interested in keeping your old Xbox 360 and purchasing the Kinect separately will have to shell out $149.99 plus tax to walk away with a Kinect.

The Kinect uses motion and skeletal tracking, facial recognition and voice operated commands to provide the best possible motion gaming experience out there. When setting up the Kinect make sure the sensor has some type of resting platform that is elevated two to six feet off of the ground. Based on my playing experience, the higher it is placed the better job the skeletal tracking performs.

Let’s set the record straight right now, the Kinect is not for someone with a small room. If you plan on purchasing this item you will need plenty of room to play. Microsoft recommends that players stand six feet away when playing by yourself and eight feet when with another player. If you are playing with the sensor at a lower height, you will definitely need to back up more than six feet. As a taller lad, my head and feet were cut off several times at the “recommended” distances. I fiddled around with it for awhile before everything tracked my movements.



Connect the power supply to the Kinect

Navigation
The dashboard navigation is relatively easy to use, but not as intuitive as I initially envisioned. When you fire up your Xbox 360 with the Kinect plugged up, you can activate it by either waving your hand at the screen or through voice activation. Users can be automatically signed into their profile via facial recognition with Kinect ID. There are also various gestures and voice commands at your disposal once you become acclimated to the Kinect.

Playing With the Kinect
Despite my initial negative disposition, I must say I did enjoy playing the demo games that were at my disposal. The Mixed Sport game was a comedic experience — pumping and flailing my arms and running in place to play various events was an adventure itself. The icing on the cake was that after each game, the Kinect records my gameplay and runs a playback feed of me in action.

The interface and tracking seemed much more accurate than anything I have used thus far. There were a few hiccups in the soccer game, but nothing that ruined my overall experience. Those “hiccups” were mostly due to the Kinect not being able to recognize the lower portion of my body. As I stated in the video review, I had to adjust the height placement of my Kinect to be able to visually track my entire body, meaning the same issues occurred without a tripod in front of me.

I also played a few 100 meter track event games with my girlfriend to check out the two player experience. I was exceptionally pleased with how well it tracked both of our movements on screen. The playing experience with someone else significantly increases the value of the Kinect. Watching her and me during the playback made for a lot of gaming fun and quality bonding time.

Kinect ID
The Kinect ID is essentially the Kinect’s facial recognition system. Once set up and activated, it will automatically sign a player into their designated profile. I had quite a bit of trouble with this set up process. The Kinect seems to be overly sensitive to direct lighting. My living room has several windows which are all covered with dark curtains, however there still appeared to be something interfering with my ID process. This whole process took the longest to set up and it wasn’t a pleasant experience.

Pros and Cons
Pros

•Fun experience
•Better Motion tracking than the Wii
•No controllers needed
•Voice/Facial Recognition (when it was finally set up) are awesome
•Suitable for exercise
Cons

•Won’t have many supported games out of the box
•Seems overly sensitive to light
•Need at minimum 32″ Television for better experience
•Too much space to utilize for one or two peopole
•Setup process was long and not-so fun

End of the Day
The Xbox 360 Kinect offers an experience that will eventually, offer an experience that will topple the current motion technology consoles on the market. Parents buying this for their kids, which I know is going to happen, probably will not like the set up process. The big factor of success for the Kinect will ultimately be how many great games are made for the Kinect. If developers step up to the plate and make some outstanding games, the Kinect will see success, otherwise the games will get old, stale and repetitive. I know dozens upon dozens of gamers that bought a Nintendo Wii and it sits on their shelves collecting dust. Microsoft is going to really need to push the envelope with the Kinect in order to get over the motion gaming fad.

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