Wow, those sound great. Do they actually say 660 on them? I read that the mods are ranked by the numbers, but I don't see those anywhere on mine.

the numbers are on the left - it will say something like 660-Perfect blah blah blah. It gets weird though, i feel my 650 sniper mod is better than the 660's, so its not a perfect science, but it does what it needs to for the most part

Thanks, but I guess I'm still not seeing it:

Look in the backpack listing... That's what he meant by "on the left".

doh, that was stupid. Thanks.

geez...only 50 more levels till i get this

That's not mine, but you can't be stuck at level 11. you get to 14 in like 2 hours.

i'm not stuck. i just play a mission or two at a time.

I have that mod its nice too! actually that one is an interesting example, as it actually has a + to sniper ammo regen as well. There is a "5th line" on that mod (the +x sniper ammo regen) but due to the word wrap, you can't see it!

but yes, in the INVENTORY screen, look on the left, next to the name, it will say "660 - spectre mod" or something like that.

also, after reading a bit more, they are level dependent, so a 660 at level 43 might not be as good as say a 360 on level 61.

apparently the first digit represents one thing, and the last 2 represent something else. more info here:

http://borderlands.wikia.com/wiki/Class_Mods

if anyone is on live and wants to see these, just look me up. xbl is same as my screen name! (i'm creative)

i guess if i were more learned i would know how i was being made fun of this time.

tell me something...does time of day play into the game at all? if i was going to go in during the cover of darkness, would that give me an edge?

I was proud of my subtlety on that one. I was surprised nobody else jumped in on the joke.

In my experience - no. The AI kind of sees you or it doesn't from what i can tell. I have never noticed a difference in daylight or night.

thanks xm.

is there a better, faster way of leveling up than i have been? i go through the missions i get, kill baddies along the way in various ways (melee, shooting with different guns, criticals to the head, running over), but only level 12 with 5+ hours of game time...

also, if i found soldier class mods and a couple guns that are 10-13 levels above me (i obviously can't use any of them yet) do i need to hang on to them or can i sell them for the big money they are fetching right now?

In general, I won't hang onto the higher level guns unless they are Oranges. Mods, if they are very good you could, but that's hard to define without playing through the game.

As mentioned before, it can help to level up by looking at the various challenges (press Y when looking at your missions) you can get bonuses for things like running over a bunch of guys, selling/buying a lot of things, etc....

even if i won't be able to use the mod for 10 levels? i think those are blue and purple. the gun was blue, i think.

you mean highlight a mission, then press y and it shows me extra stuff to do enroute to finishing 1 particular mission?

No, in the menu there are mini objectives to shoot for. Things like:

- run over 1,000 enemies: gain 20k exp
- light 500 enemies on fire: gain 10k exp
- open 5.000 loot boxes: gain 15 exp

Shit like that. There are about 100 or more of these You'll just have to root around the menus until you find it, or *gasp* open the manual.

I didn't actually mess with actually shooting for any of these goals until I was close to finishing the game to see which weapons I ended up preferring. No sense wasting time going for 10k Repeater kills if I hate using them.

Yeah, I think I only actually looked at it to see if I was close to the achievement that required a bunch of different types of kills.

which menu are you referring to? i didn't see anything like that in the game manual.

Go into the character menu where you can see the quests, then hit Y either once or twice. [Xbox] That should take you to a list bunch of challenges which are tiered and are worth more and more. You don't have to select one, it automatically tracks your progress toward each one [character specific] - although I've had issues with them incrementing in my co-op game [which I do not start]
Kill 50 skags. 1000 xp
Kill 250 skags. 2500 xp
Kill 500 skags. 5000 xp
for example [those are made up numbers]

Well I'm feeling a bit better today after leveling up both my Hunter and Siren to the majic number 61. Still have plenty of side missions and now to work on my Soldier (53) and Beserker (56). I still say getting four player with Beserkers using fists an rocket launchers would be a hoot.

thanks dt. i will look for that. i have been taking a couple missions and completing them that were above my current level and killed a couple foes from a great distance using my rocket car that were also higher level, so that should have given me some nice xps.

gonna sell my Level 22 and 25 mods since I am no where near that and could always use more dough.

I love that I told you about the Y button stuff like two weeks ago!

Do you have a car yet? If you do, it's easy to get the "shoot a gazillion bullets" challenge, since cars have infinite bullets. Tape down the trigger, drink a few beers. That will score you an easy 20,000+ experience.

yeah, i've been riding around for some time now. didn't see that challenge in the list of very many, wonder how long that would take? and 20,000 when i need a couple 100,000 til next level seems like work. Level 16 now and things are getting much clearer.