The Official Shadow Complex Thread of "Until Metroid Dread is Released"
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Yeah..that was my main arguement. First off, the genre is advanced if anything because there's a lot of people playing the game that never played the Metroid/Castlevania predecessors, and it's introducing this entire type of gameplay. Secondly, it's proving that this kind of gameplay can be updated and made affordable to everyone and be amazing. Thirdly, if you can't see the graphical/gameplay updates this brings to the genre then you're goddamn retarded.
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They kinda, in a round about way,touched on this a bit on the new ListenUp when talking about the new Castlevania game. It went like this: like it or not the Castlevania is not a mainstream game and hasn't been in a decade. It's "that little game series on the DS." They're loved, but not mainstream at all and really don't get a lot of buzz.
Shadow Complex has achieved what Castlevania hasn't been able to do in years, by bringing that style/genre(?) to consoles (& new gamers) and invigorating the discussion about these types of games. It shows that people are still interested in this style of gameplay.
Ironically enough, the newest Castlevania is abandoning the Metroidvania style and going back to its 1-4 roots.
Shadow Complex has achieved what Castlevania hasn't been able to do in years, by bringing that style/genre(?) to consoles (& new gamers) and invigorating the discussion about these types of games. It shows that people are still interested in this style of gameplay.
Ironically enough, the newest Castlevania is abandoning the Metroidvania style and going back to its 1-4 roots.
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Huge speed run shortcut revealed, which will allow you to get the Foam Gun about 15 minutes into the game (if you're at Level 30 and have unlocked the golden weapons room):
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Ok this guy is an idiot. Not knowing this guy I can't say I'm a 100% sure of this but I am fairly sure I am a bigger fan of the genre then this guy. I mean I am such a nerd I have bought the import version of SOTN and beaten it , twice! This game does add to the genre maybe not as much as some people think it does but it advances a great deal . Also it proves that done right this style can still be a big event.
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So I took a break today from work to give that minimalist run through a shot. So easy. Completion time was 1:45 and I went from level 20 to 26.
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Every single time I find a new item in this game I keep expecting to hear a variation of this...
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Yeah, going just from point to point with little exploration and no unnecessary item collection.
I also started a new Insane run, but that wasn't as much fun because it doesn't mark on the map where the secret items are. That wouldn't be a huge deal if it at least listed where you got stuff but, no, not even that. You're completely blind as far as items are located.
That and the enemies tear right through you made it less fun. Hardcore is the proper mode
I also started a new Insane run, but that wasn't as much fun because it doesn't mark on the map where the secret items are. That wouldn't be a huge deal if it at least listed where you got stuff but, no, not even that. You're completely blind as far as items are located.
That and the enemies tear right through you made it less fun. Hardcore is the proper mode
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Yeah I got that also very cool. Also in addition to the achievement tracking there is leaderboard popups which is awesome. Also no spoilers but there is a point at about 30% of the map where you get scuba gear and the music changes there is only one word I could describe it it's a word I never used before that I can remember for a game. Beautiful, you'll know it when you get there.
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If you want to progress the story, you go to the blue exclamation point. Otherwise, do whatever you want.
Tip for avoiding the final battle:
Tip for avoiding the final battle:
Spoiler:
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I've entered this weird feeling with the game where I think I may actually be having more fun on my subsequent run throughs then I did on my first? My first go round I did the 100% completion and took my time being all stealthy for a final end time of 10.5 hours or so. Now I feel like I'm flying and the rapid pace is almost more fun. I know my way around, my guy is leveled up, I don't have to stress over finding every little thing. It's odd. I guess I just didn't expect to have fun in a different way after already playing the game for 11 hours.
$15 huh? Amazing.
$15 huh? Amazing.
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When I hit level 30, I smiled thinking about what levels 40 and 50 would unlock.
I remember on my first playthrough when
I remember on my first playthrough when
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Speaking of Card, Destructoid had an interesting article on Shadow Complex:
Should we boycott Shadow Complex?
spoilerized for length
Spoiler:
http://www.destructoid.com/should-we...--145354.phtml
The reception for the boycott has been mainly negative. Majority thinks its stupid. It's funny to me how a boycott for something stupid (Left 4 dead 2) is considered important yet when a valid boycott (shadow complex) is brought up majority think it's stupid???
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I like how destructoid presents all sides of the argument - something even most major news organizations typically fail to do.
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Speaking of Card, Destructoid had an interesting article on Shadow Complex:
Should we boycott Shadow Complex?
spoilerized for length
http://www.destructoid.com/should-we...--145354.phtml
The reception for the boycott has been mainly negative. Majority thinks its stupid. It's funny to me how a boycott for something stupid (Left 4 dead 2) is considered important yet when a valid boycott (shadow complex) is brought up majority think it's stupid???
Should we boycott Shadow Complex?
spoilerized for length
Spoiler:
http://www.destructoid.com/should-we...--145354.phtml
The reception for the boycott has been mainly negative. Majority thinks its stupid. It's funny to me how a boycott for something stupid (Left 4 dead 2) is considered important yet when a valid boycott (shadow complex) is brought up majority think it's stupid???
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Unless his beliefs are pushed in the game I don't give two shits about what he believes. Even then, if it is done respectfully in a way that has to do with a character or development said character in some fashion then it's fine by me.
I don't see why people get so up in arms about what 'celebs' believe. As long as they aren't knocking on my door and ramming it down my throat, they are free to believe what they want. It may not jive mine and/or popular(?) opinion, but that's his right as a citizen of this country.
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That was a very thoughtful article that fairly presented both pro- and con- boycott sides (at least, from the perspective that Card's views are abhorent. The views on a boycott from those who agree with Card should be self-evident, I would think).I will say that while I was aware of Card's views before and bought the game knowing he was involved, this article has inspired me to make a $15 donation to a pro-gay-rights group. Take that, Card!
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Unless his beliefs are pushed in the game I don't give two shits about what he believes. Even then, if it is done respectfully in a way that has to do with a character or development said character in some fashion then it's fine by me.
I don't see why people get so up in arms about what 'celebs' believe. As long as they aren't knocking on my door and ramming it down my throat, they are free to believe what they want. It may not jive mine and/or popular(?) opinion, but that's his right as a citizen of this country.
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You must have me confused with someone else.




