Mok

So was Ninja Gaiden II, Castle Crashers & Braid.

foxdvd

LOL...the story is so thin you would not even know he wrote it....

The game rules...you are missing out!

Michael Corvin

That's my only gripe withe the game so far. Seriously, have designers run out of models for the main characters that they're just going to use Nathan Drake from here on out? It's like I'm playing a 2D version of Uncharted. Does Naughty Dog get royalties from it?

PixyJunket

Why does Naughty Dog get credit for the generic male character?

I saw this on another forum.

glassdragon

Not according to ign..

Ninja Gaiden 2 was Tecmo/Microsoft so not fully microsoft so they held some license in this

Castle Crashers was The Behemoth

and braid was Number None Inc.

Michael Corvin

I'm not talking generic in general, I'm specifically referring to the fact that the MC looks like Nathan's brother, who also must be related to the MC in Assassin's Creed.

C4 and B5 in your chart look identical. Is there a name/game breakdown for the chart?

PixyJunket

I think this was the most completed guess.

Decker

It's not just looks. Nobody would confuse Jason here with Nico from GTA IV or the Apprentice from Force Unleashed. This is an identical looking, idententically dressed guy who explores similar enviornments while trying to rescue a girl(friend) and while making very similar wisecracks in exactly the same voice. There are many moments that I'm having Drake flashbacks in this game.

Michael Corvin

I forgot about the shirt tuck.

superfro

Unless they also fuck up the end of this game and add in , I personally couldn't care less.

Decker

I know. I have to stop and check myself here. We're talking about cut scenes and voice acting in a fucking XBLA game!

superfro

Could we be a bigger group of bitches? (BTW...I know the answer to this is of course "yes".)

JasonF

Speaking as someone who does not own a PS3 ... who is this "Nathan Drake" everyone keeps talking about?

Decker

Does any of this look familiar?

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Liver&Onions

And like I said elsewhere, this game should be a gamechanger for XBLA and PSN. At least, I hope it is.

superfro

From a consumer persepective I do worry it sets the bar too high almost though. As in the fact that it'll be used for people to look at and say "This game isn't worth $15! That's what I paid for Shadow Complex!". Honestly I would've paid double or more for SC and felt I got my money's worth even thus far. (Although I probably would've also been a bit more vocal about the issues/glitches that are present throughout.)

As for game makers, yeah, this is definitely a milestone.

Liver&Onions

Sometimes the industry needs a kick in the jimmy to make it evolve and adapt. The iPhone did that for mobile devices and hopefully shadow complex will do it for XBLA. Can you believe it's the same team that did Undertow though??

LeRoy

The best $15 I've spent in a long time! This game may be my favorite XBLA title yet.

slop101

No kidding. If this were a Wii game, it wouldn't look as good, control as well and it would be $50.

JasonF

What is that? Some sort of Tomb Raider DLC?

I kid -- I know about the Uncharted series. In fact, it's the strongest argument in the "Pro" column of my "Should I buy a PS3?" list of pros and cons. But since I've never actually played it, as far as I'm concerned, Jason Fleming is a novel and unique protagonist.

Well, not counting the other 18 look-alikes on the chart Pixy posted.

I'll also add that if the worst criticism of a game is that the protagonist is too similar to the protagonist of another (critically-acclaimed) game for another platofrm, you're doing alright.

Decker

360voice.com shows it hit 8000 players yesterday. Biggest first day sale we've seen in a long time. Slightly better than Battlefield 1943 and almost 2000 more than Castle Crahsers last year. Still, I expcected it to be higher.

Liver&Onions

Not sure what you're saying here....but if it was a bash

superfro

Is that the controller holding position guide for the Wii version?

slop101

Just an objective statement that what we got was good, and that it could've been much worse.

Why so touchy?

Liver&Onions

Not touchy - just making sure. And since i've been accused of favortism towards one console over another I figured I'd go apeshit on anything i notice!!!