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Old 06-05-09 | 07:25 PM
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I still hate the cel-shading I thought the character design was terrible.
Old 06-05-09 | 08:10 PM
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Wind Waker was horrible the sailing completely killed the game.
Old 06-05-09 | 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by GizmoDVD
Wind Waker was the best Zelda ever. Seriously.
You're not serious.

And for the record, Link to the Past is the best Zelda.
Old 06-05-09 | 08:57 PM
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Link's Awakening was my favorite Zelda.

I know, I'm weird.
Old 06-05-09 | 09:09 PM
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Wind Waker was second favorite 3D zelda in a very close race with Ocarina of Time. I liked Twilight Princess, but I did not enjoy it nearly as much as Wind Waker.
Old 06-05-09 | 09:24 PM
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We're getting a bit off topic, but I'll chime in and say Phantom Hourglass was my favorite Zelda since Ocarina (Okami notwithstanding).
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Originally Posted by chess
Wii Sports says hello.
I think it's too easy to say that Wii Sports is as big a franchise as Mario, Zelda, or Metroid. It was bundled with the console and there's no way it can ever be as iconic as any of the previously three mentioned franchises as it has no integral characters. Was it successful? Sure. Is it Mario 2. No.
Old 06-06-09 | 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by fujishig
Sequelitis has set in, though... how many new IPs were shown at E3, and how many of them are being talked about rather than the numerous sequels?
Nintendo: ?, The Conduit
Microsoft: Alan Wake,
Sony: The Last Guardian, Heavy Rain, ModRacers
Old 06-06-09 | 08:37 AM
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Off topic: Way too much sailing in Wind Waker, A Link to the Past is the greatest Zelda.

On topic: Sequelitis has always been a problem in the videogame industry. I've come to accept it (I buy most of the ), plus it makes me appreciate every Ico, Okami, etc. even more.
Old 06-07-09 | 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by madcougar
I think it's too easy to say that Wii Sports is as big a franchise as Mario, Zelda, or Metroid. It was bundled with the console and there's no way it can ever be as iconic as any of the previously three mentioned franchises as it has no integral characters. Was it successful? Sure. Is it Mario 2. No.
Cart before horse there. Would the Wii have sold half as well without the bundled Wii Sports? It was the system seller. Therefore it is a successful franchise in-and-of itself.

Let's see what happens with Resort.
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http://gamer.blorge.com/2009/06/07/e...eter-molyneux/


Exposed: Natel Milo smoke and mirrors by Peter Molyneux
Old 06-07-09 | 12:11 PM
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:gasp: Molyneux was full of shit and made claims that couldn't be done with the technology available? Say it ain't so! :cry:
Old 06-07-09 | 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Fandango
http://gamer.blorge.com/2009/06/07/e...eter-molyneux/


Exposed: Natel Milo smoke and mirrors by Peter Molyneux
Apparently smoke and mirrors were involved. It says so in that article. Four times.
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http://goonlinegames.net/2009/06/07/...ny-side-of-e3/
Old 06-07-09 | 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
Nintendo: ?, The Conduit
Nintendo has at least 3 new IPs in the works but didn't show them off at the press conference: Span Smasher, Line Attack Heroes and Monado: Beginning of the World.



Originally Posted by Fandango
http://gamer.blorge.com/2009/06/07/e...eter-molyneux/


Exposed: Natel Milo smoke and mirrors by Peter Molyneux
Was this supposed to be a surprise? They said that they made Milo in only 3 months, it's not like you can make an advanced AI in that short of time.
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I don't understand how WiiSports is considered a HUGE seller when it is packed with the system. People don't have a choice on whether or not to 'buy' it since it comes with the hardware, therefor any sales from a system sale shouldn't credit Wiisports as a 'sale' for that software, right?
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I'm willing to say 50% of the Wii sales were specifically for Wii Sports, so it's fair to count it as a huge seller in this case. But generally, yes I would say pack-ins shouldn't count.
Old 06-07-09 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by dvdsteve2000
I don't understand how WiiSports is considered a HUGE seller when it is packed with the system. People don't have a choice on whether or not to 'buy' it since it comes with the hardware, therefor any sales from a system sale shouldn't credit Wiisports as a 'sale' for that software, right?
Would that also mean Hexic is the biggest selling xbox live arcade game? It comes packed with every hard drive xbox 360.
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Originally Posted by mhg83
Would that also mean Hexic is the biggest selling xbox live arcade game? It comes packed with every hard drive xbox 360.
When has MS marketed the console on Hexic? Did people even realize that it came with the system? For two years the Wii = Wii Sports. Wii Sports is the reason that you couldn't find one on a shelf until after this past Christmas.
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http://www.joystiq.com/2009/06/07/ni...t-three-years/

Nintendo canceled new handheld in last three years
by Alexander Sliwinski { Jun 7th 2009 at 3:30PM }

Nintendo president Satoru Iwata mentioned in a recent interview that the company had a new handheld all set to go in the last three years, but ultimately decided to scrap the plan. Speaking with CNBC, Iwata declined to give any further details about the product, but did say that the most important thing for Nintendo when releasing new hardware is to maintain "momentum." Iwata implies that the new handheld would not have accomplished that goal.

History lesson time: Many moons ago Nintendo discussed the "three pillar strategy" for its hardware. It was to be the console (Gamecube, then Wii) and the two handhelds (Game Boy and DS). With the runaway success of the DS, and now the DSi, it seems the third pillar became vestigial. Perhaps one day we'll see what this mysteriously scuttled handheld was meant to be.
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Virtua Boy 2!
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The new Game & Watch!!!

Old 06-07-09 | 09:59 PM
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If they really wanted a 3 pillar strategy, I think a better one would be to have an expensive, powerful console, along with the budget console and 1 handheld. Those of us willing to spend more money could get HD graphics and games to compete with the 360 and PS3, and they would still offer a cheaper SD console. It would be similar to how the PS2 is now Sony's budget console.

Not that you need (or even want) 2 Nintendo consoles, but I'd rather see that than 2 handhelds.
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Originally Posted by dvdsteve2000
I don't understand how WiiSports is considered a HUGE seller when it is packed with the system. People don't have a choice on whether or not to 'buy' it since it comes with the hardware, therefor any sales from a system sale shouldn't credit Wiisports as a 'sale' for that software, right?
Well in Japan Wii Sports is sold sepeartly in Japan and is the best selling game there though I wouldn't consider any bundled copies in the US or Europe as copies sold though. I don't think Nintendo does either when they release total software units sold, but I could be wrong about that.

Originally Posted by Drexl
If they really wanted a 3 pillar strategy, I think a better one would be to have an expensive, powerful console, along with the budget console and 1 handheld. Those of us willing to spend more money could get HD graphics and games to compete with the 360 and PS3, and they would still offer a cheaper SD console. It would be similar to how the PS2 is now Sony's budget console.

Not that you need (or even want) 2 Nintendo consoles, but I'd rather see that than 2 handhelds.
The whole 3 pillar thing was just a cop-out in case the DS failed and they needed to release a traditional hand held to compete with the PSP. Since the DS is a runaway success they didn't need to.

As for releasing an HD console, Iwata recently said in an interview that at the time HDTV penetration wasn't high, and they didn't feel the need to release a HD console. He also said since HDTV sales are now very high the next Nintendo system will most likely be HD.

Nintendo just can't have two systems. They are a really small company, and don't have enough developers to fully support both the Wii and an HD console at the same time.
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Originally Posted by mrpayroll
I'd be shocked if they weren't working on a true successor to the GBA, and then scrapped it when the DS started selling well. The DS didn't really take off until the Christmas 2005 season.

Originally Posted by Bluth54
The whole 3 pillar thing was just a cop-out in case the DS failed and they needed to release a traditional hand held to compete with the PSP. Since the DS is a runaway success they didn't need to.
Exactly.


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