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I wish there were more actual guitar songs in Guitar Hero. Instead of just bland rock songs with a guitar riff
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Have they mentioned if you could be both lead singer and play an instrument at the same time?
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Originally Posted by Kelkee
Have they mentioned if you could be both lead singer and play an instrument at the same time?
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Damned biometrics, screwing me over yet again.
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Now that I think about it that would require yet another piece of equipment, a mic stand.
But being able to sing and play at the same time would really be a nice addition. Can you do this in RB? |
Originally Posted by Kelkee
Now that I think about it that would require yet another piece of equipment, a mic stand.
But being able to sing and play at the same time would really be a nice addition. Can you do this in RB? It would be a nice addition to have one profile control two "players" in that sense. |
Originally Posted by pinata242
It would be a nice addition to have one profile control two "players" in that sense. I sign in under my regular profile, Sith Draven. Pick my band, choose my guitarist as lead, and with the second controller/mic choose my singer(that I also created under Sith Draven). I've never logged into a different profile. |
Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
I do.
I sign in under my regular profile, Sith Draven. Pick my band, choose my guitarist as lead, and with the second controller/mic choose my singer(that I also created under Sith Draven). I've never logged into a different profile. Hopefully you can do that in GH:WT. Lots o' GH:WT new coming forth today apparently. Screens: Character creation http://media.arstechnica.com/journal...tercreator.jpg Song creation: http://media.arstechnica.com/journal..._gh4_music.jpg |
Publisher Activision has confirmed that the Wii edition of Guitar Hero World Tour (PS3, PS2, 360, Wii) due out this fall will support some form of downloadable content, though it is not clear what form that content will take. In a press release issued today, the company boasted that World Tour, commonly referred to as Guitar Hero 4, will be the "first game ever in the Guitar Hero franchise to allow in-game downloadable content on Wii." It is not yet known if the content refers to new songs or just the sharing of user-created tracks, the latter being a functionality all editions of World Tour are known to include. PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 Guitar Hero entries have used downloadable content to add new songs to the game, some of which are sold and some of which are given away. "Guitar Hero World Tour" will include the ability for two groups of four people each to compete online, as well as let players compose and play their own music, Activision said on Thursday. |
Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
I do.
I sign in under my regular profile, Sith Draven. Pick my band, choose my guitarist as lead, and with the second controller/mic choose my singer(that I also created under Sith Draven). I've never logged into a different profile. |
Actual press release from Activision:
SANTA MONICA, Calif., May 22, 2008 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- When the house lights go down this fall, a new generation of axe shredders, drummers and fearless frontmen will come together and rock with Activision, Inc.'s (Nasdaq: ATVI) Guitar Hero(R) World Tour. The latest installment from the #1 best-selling video game franchise of 2007, Guitar Hero World Tour will transform music gaming by marrying Guitar Hero's(R) exhilarating guitar gameplay, with a cooperative band experience that combines the most advanced wireless instruments with revolutionary new online and offline gameplay modes. The game will feature a slick newly redesigned guitar, a genuine electronic drum kit and a microphone, as well as an innovative Music Studio music creator that lets players compose, record, edit and share their own rock and roll anthems, along with online Band Career and 8-player "Battle of the Bands." Delivering the largest on-disc set list in a music-rhythm game to-date, Guitar Hero World Tour is comprised entirely of master recordings from some of the greatest classic and modern rock bands of all-time including Van Halen, Linkin Park, The Eagles, Sublime and many more. Additionally, the game will offer significantly more localized downloadable music than ever before on all of the next-generation consoles. Budding rock stars will also be given creative license to fully customize everything from their characters' appearance and instruments to their band's logo and album covers. In addition to a newly designed more responsive guitar controller and microphone, Guitar Hero World Tour will deliver the most realistic drum experience ever in a video game with an authentic electronic drum kit. Featuring three drum pads, two raised cymbals and a bass kick pedal, the drum controller combines larger and quieter, velocity-sensitive drum heads with soft rubber construction to deliver authentic bounce back and is easy to set up, move, break down and store. "Guitar Hero has set the standard for music-based gaming and with Guitar Hero World Tour and the game's groundbreaking Music Studio, we are once again delivering unprecedented innovation that has the potential to revolutionize consumer generated music, much in the same way that video sharing hubs have driven user generated video," said Dusty Welch, Head of Publishing for RedOctane. "With the introduction of our advanced high-quality new wireless instruments, in-depth customization options and advanced online functionality, the game enables music fans and gamers globally to share in the most social and expressive music experience ever." Guitar Hero World Tour delivers more ways to play than ever before. Virtual musicians can live out their rock and roll fantasies by playing either a single instrument, or any combination of instruments, in addition to the full band experience. In addition to all of the online gameplay modes from Guitar Hero(R) III: Legends of Rock, Guitar Hero World Tour introduces Battle of the Bands mode which allows eight players to join online and challenge each other band-to-band to determine who is the best of the best. In the Band modes, up to four players can jam together, online or off, as they progress through the game, and in single-player Career Mode, players can jam on any of the instruments in branching venue progression enabling them to rock out in the order of their choice. The game's innovative new Music Studio lets players express their musical creativity by giving them access to a full compliment of tools to create digital music from scratch, utilizing all of the instruments, and then play their compositions in the game. Music creators will also be able to share their recordings with their friends online through GHTunes(TM) where other gamers can download their unique compositions and play them. |
I think the "create a song" feature isn't quite going to work like people think - meaning you won't be able to import an MP3 and have it mapped.
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Originally Posted by abrg923
I think the "create a song" feature isn't quite going to work like people think - meaning you won't be able to import an MP3 and have it mapped.
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So it sounds like (not surprisingly, considering it's a main gripe about Rock Band's BWT mode) the World Tour part of things can be done online.
I would assume the user-created songs won't be free? Not sure how they could make them so, since there would end up being an almost unlimited number of songs to play that way (and if the mode is decent and as complex as it looks like it could be, people will spend a lot of time making pretty good custom songs, I would think). But how much time are people going to spend making songs if Activision is going to be profiting? Seems like it could kind of be a catch 22 in that way. I know it's already been discussed to death here, but I hope the fact that those 4 bands are mentioned is only because legal arrangements are still being hashed out with other bands. I would probably enjoy all 4 (Eagles and VH more than the other 2), but none of the 4 would be a reason I'd buy the game. |
They named it "Create a song" not "Import a song".
Big difference. |
I haven't read the recent PRs, but didn't we already know that the Create-a-Song songs won't have vocals? That's something Activision is going to have over any musak version of anything we do.
I wonder how they'll handle copyright on that, like if someone wanted to recreate Sweet Child O' Mine or whatever. How do you judge what is or isn't original? |
Originally Posted by aktick
I would assume the user-created songs won't be free? Not sure how they could make them so, since there would end up being an almost unlimited number of songs to play that way (and if the mode is decent and as complex as it looks like it could be, people will spend a lot of time making pretty good custom songs, I would think). But how much time are people going to spend making songs if Activision is going to be profiting? Seems like it could kind of be a catch 22 in that way.
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Originally Posted by pinata242
I wonder how they'll handle copyright on that, like if someone wanted to recreate Sweet Child O' Mine or whatever. How do you judge what is or isn't original?
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Originally Posted by flashburn
There is no issue to work out here. You can't copyright a sound. Since even if a song sounds the same, since it isn't the original recording there isn't a legal issue. At least I believe that is how it works.
Say I write a song but I use the same riff as "Back In Black", except I record it in D and maybe do the little run at the end slightly differently and the lyrics are about my dog. If I don't give a song-writing credit to Angus and Malcolm, they can sue my ass... and would most likely win, if a judge things my song is too close to theirs. Led Zeppelin got sued and lost a substantial amount of money because of this. Now, since I have no money and no one paid a dime for this song, they could sue me, but I doubt there would be any damages because I haven't profited at all. I would guess that would be what will happen here, because the amount of original songs, compared to rip-offs of famous ones will probably be in the 1:50 ratio. |
Hmm, interesting. Thanks for correcting me. :)
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Originally Posted by Mordred
Now, since I have no money and no one paid a dime for this song, they could sue me, but I doubt there would be any damages because I haven't profited at all. I would guess that would be what will happen here, because the amount of original songs, compared to rip-offs of famous ones will probably be in the 1:50 ratio.
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Originally Posted by Mordred
Well, you're wrong sort of.
Say I write a song but I use the same riff as "Back In Black", except I record it in D and maybe do the little run at the end slightly differently and the lyrics are about my dog. If I don't give a song-writing credit to Angus and Malcolm, they can sue my ass... and would most likely win, if a judge things my song is too close to theirs. Led Zeppelin got sued and lost a substantial amount of money because of this. Now, since I have no money and no one paid a dime for this song, they could sue me, but I doubt there would be any damages because I haven't profited at all. I would guess that would be what will happen here, because the amount of original songs, compared to rip-offs of famous ones will probably be in the 1:50 ratio. |
Believe me, if someone thinks they can win, they'll try to sue.
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Originally Posted by Suprmallet
Ah, but could someone sue Activision for allowing the distribution of user created mimic songs, seeing as how it could be argued that they do profit off of it? Or will nobody care that you can play a vocal-less user created version?
BTW, the decision to not allow vocals probably isn't for this reason. First of all, you'd have to record them (I would think) which would make downloads huge. Secondly the content of user created songs is going to be the bottom of the barrel. The X-Rated racist stuff will be pretty standard, I'd guess. |
Uncle Ted in this game would make this a midnight release purchase for me. Something which not even Madden or a Urlacher covered NFL 2K game did for me.
Glad I held off on RS. |
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