I think it stopped being a hot commodity because of supply constraints months ago. Once we made it through the Christmas season and early spring, I think it is hot because it is the system to have.

To reiterate what chess said, PS3 and 360 are marketed to the Gamestop crowd and the Wii to, for lack of better analogy, the Wal-Mart crowd.

I love how Wii owners scoff at convential controllers and then proceed to tell me how waving a wand is like being on the field.


and as for "first person shooter blech"...... isn't Prime 3 a FPS?

The same people that will tell you that Bioshock is a standard, unoriginal FPS are the ones that praise MP3 for being more than an FPS.

I don't scoff at conventional controllers. I just think that they reached their interactive peak 5 years ago, and as the controls became more complicated, more people lost interest. Nintendo is attempting to simplify things a bit with a control scheme that doesn't have a learning curve like a brick wall.

One example, just to make a point: I used to love video football games in the 16 bit era and the early part of the PSX/N64 era...but the controls became so complicated and the differences from year to year became so meaningless that I just completely lost interest. Completely.

Sure. It's Metroid in a first person perspective, but I think the platforming and exploration elements make it something else as well.

And for what it's worth, my interest in FPSs is growing rapidly because of Wii controls. I might very well ask for Medal of Honor for Xmas.

Directed at me, I assume...

Bioshock is not standard, and it is original. It seems to have a compelling story and some creative gameplay elements. As an added bonus (like MP3) it also doesn't have a online deathmatch where you get the privelege of being teabagged by 12 year olds screaming obsenities in your headset.

Portal looks terrific too...for pretty much the same reasons.

No, it wasn't directed at anyone in particular, honestly.

I actually like FPS, but I think people like Chess and me don't play video games just to play FPS. The majority of the (popular) games on the 360 are shooters. I never got into console FPSs, but I used to love Half Life, and used to like to play deathmatch games again friends (quake, duke nukem, etc.).

I really want to see more variety and non-traditional console games -- which I hope we'll see on the Wii. I'd love to see some RTS, point and clicks, and other games that I used to play on PCs years ago.

The 360 looks like an amazing machine... and if I had the money I'd probably buy one... but I'm far more interested in Xbox Live Arcade than I am in Halo 3.

Yeah, except I think your second point is the bigger factor. I think the low software sales compared to that of the 360 is because grandma and grandpa that everyone says "are now into games because of the Wii" play nothing except for Wii Sports and only buy a bowling game or Wii Play.

While total sales are slightly ahead of the 360, when there's a good chance half of those owners won't buy more then a couple games, sales are going to be a lot lower.

I knew quite a few people in the 90s that owned Super Nintendo's with Super Mario World and maybe one or two other games total for the life of the system. They got it because it was the thing to get and grew tired of it and put it in the closet. I'm worried a large portion of the Wii audience could be these kinds of people.

I've spent a lot more time on the vc than on zelda or metroid, which are the only games I bought. And I haven't been playing any vc games lately, and I'm only mildly interested in mario, and there's nothing else on the horizon for me. I'll probably try mario but sell the system after that.

The problem is, that there is often so little connection between the required wii remote motion and an actual golf swing or raquet swing, that I would rather be using an analog stick or similar, and be able to perform the action reliably 100% of the time. eg. when I tried to play wii sports tennis like I do normal tennis, well it wasn't pretty. And for god sake, let me just use the A button to roll the dice in Mario Party rather than the stupid unreliable flicky motion that you have to do.

I remain a little hopeful that the required wii remote motions will get a little closer to reality, and that the precision will improve over time, at least on sim-type games, but I haven't really seen evidence of this yet (although I haven't played MP3 which I gather has quite precise effective controls).

Anyway, I fully realise my opinion is pretty much outside the norm for wii owners (of which I'm not one even though I've played quite a lot). I would guess that the average sim sports fan is probably still going to pick up a 360/PS3 before or as well as a wii.

I am just utterly disappointed in some of the responses in this thread. I really can't believe that the negative opinions voiced in this thread are representative of the majority of Wii owners. I know quite a few people who own a Nintendo Wii, and they are still very actively playing it. They have parties, where several people gather to play. They also play games that are single player, and enjoy them quite a bit. They are younger adults, who are very excited about the system, the games they have, and the games on the horizon. I believe that this thread is really only attracting those who the system doesn't appeal to, because, as they say, those who are truly happy with something, don't really respond. It's those who complain that have the most to say.

I have no doubt that the future for Nintendo Wii is very bright, indeed. With so many great games on the way, such as Super Mario Galaxy, Super Smash Bros. Brawl, Super Mario Kart Wii, Wii Fit, Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games, Okami, Resident Evil: Umbrella Chronicles, and titles that we haven't even heard about, yet. If none of those games interest you, and from a couple of responses that I've read, they don't, then you are not a Nintendo customer. True Nintendo Wii fans are very excited by these games, and are likely to be very pleased with them. Many of these titles are the Triple AAA games we've been waiting for, and I know many people, outside of these boards, who are extremely excited by them, who are very pleased to be Wii owners, and who are playing video games more than ever, because of the Nintendo Wii.

This is a video game forum on the internet. Most of the people responding here are hardcore gamers who bought a Wii. A lot of what the Wii has offered (playful graphics, mini-games, etc) are not typically what these guys are looking for.

Also, I don't know how you can call a game a "Triple AAA game we've been waiting for" when it was released on another system a year ago.

Okami, I assume.

Because it is and always has been and probably always will be a AAA game. Other than some of the early PS1 titles and the early NES titles that haven't aged well (I'm looking at you Resident Evil), if a game was ever a AAA title, it always will be. If I played SMB3 for the first time today, would it not be a AAA title? Super Metroid? GTA3? Ratchet and Clank?

At any rate, I never played it on PS2, so it's certainly a AAA game to me...and if using the pointer for the celestial brush feels good, then all the better.

im in no way bashing any console (i have all 3)

i think that right now x360 is still the best console - on the game library alone

ps3 and wii are slowly getting some sick titles but arnt quite there yet. the only real complaint i have is with the wii. all the good games are all 1 player, and i find the controller gimicy and annoying playing metroid, zelda and soon mario by myself.

i am glad that i waited and got my ps3 this year to save some cash. sony should have just released the cheaper version with the expensive one in the first place.

Agreed. It's just the internet audience, who in scope of the bigger market (the one Nintendo is going after) are completely meaningless. They beat up Nintendo, because it's the thing to do...apparently, but they never take into account their favorite console's first year.

The 360, for instance, had two games that interested me in the first year: Gears and Dead Rising. I'm pretty comfortable putting Twilight Princess, Super Paper Mario, Metroid Prime 3, Wii Sports and Mario Galaxy up for comparison. Edit to add RE4, which despite being a 2 year old game feels completely fresh with a "light gun" element added.

Exactly. abrg923 seems to think that the game can't be a AAA title, if it has appeared on another console. That's ridiculous. Not everyone owns a PS2. I had no interest in every owning one. However, what I've seen of Okami looks amazing, and I'm glad to see that they are bringing it to Wii, where it is sure to be just as amazing, if not more so.

In regards to this forum and thread, I'd say that's bullshit. The thread asked what people thought of the Wii after a year, and people answered honestly. Not because bashing Nintendo is the thing to do. It's because some people are legitimately disappointed, whether it be in the games that have been released so far or in my case, because the controls simply haven't felt revolutionary.

There's legitimate criticisms out there, whether you want to believe them or not.

Why do you care so much that someone has different thoughts and opinions on the game console than you? This thread asked for peoples thoughts, and they gave them. I'm sorry that don't match yours. Maybe you should find another video game form where peoples thoughts match yours.

Some people have played in the PS2, so it wouldn't be a new game for them. Not everyone wants to keep buying the same games over and over for a new control. The AAA titles most Wii users have been waiting for are the ones new to the Wii.

There's no reason to be rude. I wasn't rude in my response. Did I hit some sort of nerve in you? Maybe it's you that should find another "form" (which I assume you meant forum). I'm not going to go somewhere else, just because you think I should.

I have as much right to voice my opinion as anyone else. I'm just saying that, from my experience, the negative opinions being voiced here, aren't representative of the majority of Wii owners. If you don't agree with that, that's fine. That's no reason to tell me to shove off. Seriously.

Your point would be valid had anyone actually bought Okami on PS2.

Alright, I admit, I shouldn't have said that. I was a little aggrivated over the "true Nintendo fans have to like these games" statement. It seems a couple of memebers are getting upset when someone doesn't praise the Wii. I shouldn't have told you to leave, and I'm sorry. You can voice your opinion, and we can too.

Some people did. I have a feeling that the Wii sales for this will be about the same.