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#226
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Originally Posted by JasonF
Absolutely nothing except bragging rights.
Your GamerTag is your XBox ID. Every GamerTag has a certain GamerScore. You accumulate GamerScore by getting Achievements in games. Each game has a certain number of points to hand out (for retail games like Bioshock, it's 1000 points). The developers of the game decide what the Achievements will be and how many points each will be worth. So in Bioshock, for example, the developers decided that doing a successful hack for the first time would be an Achievement, and that it would be worth 5 points, and that completing the welcome level would be another achievement, and that one would be worth 10 points.
The points mean absolutely nothing in the game, nor do the Achievements -- except to the extent they give you a way to track your progress.
Your GamerTag is your XBox ID. Every GamerTag has a certain GamerScore. You accumulate GamerScore by getting Achievements in games. Each game has a certain number of points to hand out (for retail games like Bioshock, it's 1000 points). The developers of the game decide what the Achievements will be and how many points each will be worth. So in Bioshock, for example, the developers decided that doing a successful hack for the first time would be an Achievement, and that it would be worth 5 points, and that completing the welcome level would be another achievement, and that one would be worth 10 points.
The points mean absolutely nothing in the game, nor do the Achievements -- except to the extent they give you a way to track your progress.
It's like getting a cookie for doing a back flip.
#227
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Originally Posted by JasonF
Absolutely nothing except bragging rights.
Your GamerTag is your XBox ID. Every GamerTag has a certain GamerScore. You accumulate GamerScore by getting Achievements in games. Each game has a certain number of points to hand out (for retail games like Bioshock, it's 1000 points). The developers of the game decide what the Achievements will be and how many points each will be worth. So in Bioshock, for example, the developers decided that doing a successful hack for the first time would be an Achievement, and that it would be worth 5 points, and that completing the welcome level would be another achievement, and that one would be worth 10 points.
The points mean absolutely nothing in the game, nor do the Achievements -- except to the extent they give you a way to track your progress.
Your GamerTag is your XBox ID. Every GamerTag has a certain GamerScore. You accumulate GamerScore by getting Achievements in games. Each game has a certain number of points to hand out (for retail games like Bioshock, it's 1000 points). The developers of the game decide what the Achievements will be and how many points each will be worth. So in Bioshock, for example, the developers decided that doing a successful hack for the first time would be an Achievement, and that it would be worth 5 points, and that completing the welcome level would be another achievement, and that one would be worth 10 points.
The points mean absolutely nothing in the game, nor do the Achievements -- except to the extent they give you a way to track your progress.
#228
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I beat the game last night. I was up till about 6 am. When I got to bed and my wife woke up a bit she asked me what time it was. I lied and shaved about 4 hours off the time so she wouldn't raise hell. 
While I enjoyed the game I did have a small glitch that I wondered if anyone else had or heard of.

While I enjoyed the game I did have a small glitch that I wondered if anyone else had or heard of.
Spoiler:
#232
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Originally Posted by RVP
I searched but couldn't find the answer so...
Are the tonics stackable? Like If I have sport boost and sport boost 2 equiped, do I get a benefit from both? Or am i just wasting a slot? Thanks
Are the tonics stackable? Like If I have sport boost and sport boost 2 equiped, do I get a benefit from both? Or am i just wasting a slot? Thanks
#233
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Although I said that I wouldn't replay this for a while, since The Bigs is not available for rent and Stranglehold is delayed again, I started to replay it on the hardest level. Not far in, but the splicers are definitely a bit harder.
I really want to get all of the achievements, but there are a couple that I can see being particularly difficult, listed below. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to get these, or if I am methodical enough, should I get all of these in the course of the game? I don't really care so much about the hacks, since I find them to be a big pain in the ass, but as long as I hit all of those uinventit machines, will I get those achievements as long as I pick up all of the various items?
Skilled Hacker - Successfully complete 50 hacks.
Avid Inventor - Successfully invent at least 100 items.
Ammo Inventor - Successfully invented all possible ammo types.
Tonic Collector - Collect or Invent 53 Tonics in the Physical, Engineering and Combat tracks.
I can see getting all of those tonics being difficult as well.
Any suggestions?
I really want to get all of the achievements, but there are a couple that I can see being particularly difficult, listed below. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to get these, or if I am methodical enough, should I get all of these in the course of the game? I don't really care so much about the hacks, since I find them to be a big pain in the ass, but as long as I hit all of those uinventit machines, will I get those achievements as long as I pick up all of the various items?
Skilled Hacker - Successfully complete 50 hacks.
Avid Inventor - Successfully invent at least 100 items.
Ammo Inventor - Successfully invented all possible ammo types.
Tonic Collector - Collect or Invent 53 Tonics in the Physical, Engineering and Combat tracks.
I can see getting all of those tonics being difficult as well.
Any suggestions?
#234
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Originally Posted by Giantrobo
True, but I'll tell you what...for some of us... achievements + Mild to moderate cases of OCD = finishing and/or replaying more games than ever before.
It's like getting a cookie for doing a back flip.
It's like getting a cookie for doing a back flip.
#235
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Originally Posted by movieking
Although I said that I wouldn't replay this for a while, since The Bigs is not available for rent and Stranglehold is delayed again, I started to replay it on the hardest level. Not far in, but the splicers are definitely a bit harder.
I really want to get all of the achievements, but there are a couple that I can see being particularly difficult, listed below. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to get these, or if I am methodical enough, should I get all of these in the course of the game? I don't really care so much about the hacks, since I find them to be a big pain in the ass, but as long as I hit all of those uinventit machines, will I get those achievements as long as I pick up all of the various items?
Skilled Hacker - Successfully complete 50 hacks.
Avid Inventor - Successfully invent at least 100 items.
Ammo Inventor - Successfully invented all possible ammo types.
Tonic Collector - Collect or Invent 53 Tonics in the Physical, Engineering and Combat tracks.
I can see getting all of those tonics being difficult as well.
Any suggestions?
I really want to get all of the achievements, but there are a couple that I can see being particularly difficult, listed below. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to get these, or if I am methodical enough, should I get all of these in the course of the game? I don't really care so much about the hacks, since I find them to be a big pain in the ass, but as long as I hit all of those uinventit machines, will I get those achievements as long as I pick up all of the various items?
Skilled Hacker - Successfully complete 50 hacks.
Avid Inventor - Successfully invent at least 100 items.
Ammo Inventor - Successfully invented all possible ammo types.
Tonic Collector - Collect or Invent 53 Tonics in the Physical, Engineering and Combat tracks.
I can see getting all of those tonics being difficult as well.
Any suggestions?
Avid Inventor and Ammo Inventor - Instead of buying your ammo, invent some of it, and invent lots of Auto Hack Tools, you can carry up to 5 at a time.
Tonic Collector - This one is somewhat tough to get... 1. You must save all Little Sisters (every 3 you save you'll get a new tonic at the next Gatherer's Garden) 2. There are a handful you can only get from researching... Don't forget to take photos of every enemy. 3. Some tonics you can only get from inventing (I think there were 2 or 3 you could only get from inventing.) So invest in those. 4. Buy the tonics before the plasmids when you are at a Gatherer's Garden. In fact, if you MUST buy plasmids, but the ones you personally use the most, and spend the rest of the Adam on Tonics. And then slots. 5. Explore every inch of the game. Some tonics are off the beaten path.
Good luck! You'll get those 1000g soon enough!
#236
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Can someone tell me how the heck to get more "slots" for the plasmids?? I had to forego my Electrocute plasmid for the Telekenesis plasmid because I didn't have enough slots. WTF?? Can I ever get my Electrocute plasmid back?
#237
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Couple of things Rob.
1. Gatherer's Garden - collect your Adam from the little sisters and you can buy more plasmid spots out of these specific machines. The first machine is at the end of the first area after you take out the last Big Daddy.
2. Gene Banks - they allow you to swap out your plasmids and various powers. So in your case, you can find one and swap Telekinesis out for Electro at no charge.
As for the Achievement question above, other than the tonics, the others will be easy enough just playing through the course of the game. I'm only in the third or fourth area and have already gotten the Hacker and Ammo Ineventor ones. You don't have to hack anything but I imagine you will still hack some turrets, cameras and bots because they help you out. Hacking 50 things is nothing. You can probably get it just by hacking the health stations.
1. Gatherer's Garden - collect your Adam from the little sisters and you can buy more plasmid spots out of these specific machines. The first machine is at the end of the first area after you take out the last Big Daddy.
2. Gene Banks - they allow you to swap out your plasmids and various powers. So in your case, you can find one and swap Telekinesis out for Electro at no charge.
As for the Achievement question above, other than the tonics, the others will be easy enough just playing through the course of the game. I'm only in the third or fourth area and have already gotten the Hacker and Ammo Ineventor ones. You don't have to hack anything but I imagine you will still hack some turrets, cameras and bots because they help you out. Hacking 50 things is nothing. You can probably get it just by hacking the health stations.
#238
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Originally Posted by Rob V
Can someone tell me how the heck to get more "slots" for the plasmids?? I had to forego my Electrocute plasmid for the Telekenesis plasmid because I didn't have enough slots. WTF?? Can I ever get my Electrocute plasmid back?
I'm still at a very early point in the game (just killed my first big daddy earlier today), but I'm already dreading this being over. This is a damn good game.
#239
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You have to buy a slot with "Adam" at one of the Gatherer Gardens and I think it's "100". I think Telekenesis is the coolest one by far. It's cool of all the stuff you can throw.
Kenny J - Buzz Starhopper
Kenny J - Buzz Starhopper
#240
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The telekinesis is also useful for getting items that are in hard to reach spaces. I also use it to fire back things like grenades, etc back at the enemy or turret.
#241
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Originally Posted by K&AJones
You have to buy a slot with "Adam" at one of the Gatherer Gardens and I think it's "100". I think Telekenesis is the coolest one by far. It's cool of all the stuff you can throw.
Kenny J - Buzz Starhopper
Kenny J - Buzz Starhopper
That's what's so great about this game. So many different ways to play. I rarely if ever use Telekinesis.
#244
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Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
I rarely if ever use Telekinesis.
#245
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Nice. I may have to check into it some more.
#246
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Originally Posted by slop101
No one's really mentioned it, but the Ayn Rand objectivist stuff is hilarious.
"A man creates. A parasite asks: 'Where's my share?'."

"A man creates. A parasite asks: 'Where's my share?'."


Awesome stuff.
#247
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Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
That's what's so great about this game. So many different ways to play. I rarely if ever use Telekinesis.On the other hand, I found movieking's post about needing to get 50 hacks incomprehensible. I hack everything. I think I had 50 hacks before I left the Medical Pavillion.
#248
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First time through I used mostly telekinisis, using dead bodies and exploding barrels to kill splicers. When I play as I good guy, I think I'm going to use mostly hacked turrets and guns, taking the approach that the plasmids are bad.
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#250
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I got this today and went through the Medical Pavilion level. Not as creepy as Condemned, which was the last single-player FPS I really liked.
I'm playing on Medium but I had no problem with the Big Daddy at all. I assume they get harder to beat later on.
So far I'm enjoying the Life Aquatic with Ayn Rand stuff.
I'm not blown away by this game. I'll probably sell it as soon as I beat it.
I'm playing on Medium but I had no problem with the Big Daddy at all. I assume they get harder to beat later on.
So far I'm enjoying the Life Aquatic with Ayn Rand stuff.
I'm not blown away by this game. I'll probably sell it as soon as I beat it.



