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Old 03-22-08 | 12:57 AM
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Has anyone played nanostray 2? I read the review on ign and it looks great.
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Old 03-22-08 | 10:08 AM
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Ok Pixy (or anyone else playing Mystery Dungeon), i need a rescue.
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Old 03-22-08 | 11:46 AM
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Thank you sir!

Here is your thank you letter password:

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We need to trade friend codes in this game to get around this password stuff.
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I'm hankering to play a game like Mystery Dungeon, but from the reviews I'm thinking I should start with something easier. Any recommendations?
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Old 03-22-08 | 11:58 AM
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I just setup the USB Adapter. It wouldn't work on my PC, I had to connect it to the girlfriend's.

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Old 03-22-08 | 12:08 PM
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I'm hankering to play a game like Mystery Dungeon, but from the reviews I'm thinking I should start with something easier. Any recommendations?
In general, rogue-likes are rarely easy. The Pokémon Mystery Dungeon game (and I assume its upcoming sequel) is definitely softer due to the target audience of the license. If you get Shiren, I'm definitely up to offer rescues.

Miyu, I'm wondering if the dungeon it sent me to was the same one you played in. Did you die in a mini monster house? Because that's where I found your carcass rotting. There were lots of good scrolls you could have used (first a sleep or confusion, then a blastwave since there were like four up to that floor). Also, for the mini monster houses, you can enter them and take on step back to the corridor and let them come at you one at a time, though the pair of Popwave Tanks in there were definitely trouble.
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Old 03-22-08 | 12:22 PM
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In general, rogue-likes are rarely easy. The Pokémon Mystery Dungeon game (and I assume its upcoming sequel) is definitely softer due to the target audience of the license. If you get Shiren, I'm definitely up to offer rescues.

Miyu, I'm wondering if the dungeon it sent me to was the same one you played in. Did you die in a mini monster house? Because that's where I found your carcass rotting. There were lots of good scrolls you could have used (first a sleep or confusion, then a blastwave since there were like four up to that floor). Also, for the mini monster houses, you can enter them and take on step back to the corridor and let them come at you one at a time, though the pair of Popwave Tanks in there were definitely trouble.
I died in a some dungeon where i went down some stairs. The top screen has me descending a mountain towards a village. I stepped into the new level and had these 2 fire monsters immediately by me. They each split into 2 so i then had 4 flame things that killed me in one turn. I didn't even have a chance to do anything.

Sadly enough i died yet again 2 levels deeper (i think only one away from the village) Now i'm just trying to make it to the village to sell stuff and get some new items.

My Wi-Fi code is: 2449-4378-5175

When i hit the next level down (where i died) there was one big open room with like 15 monsters. I hit them with a blastwave and confusion that took out most of them. Some knight kept leveling up though and was really speedy - ran up and one hit killed me (i had my full 70+ hp). Pretty crazy.
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Old 03-22-08 | 12:46 PM
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Okay, I entered your friend code, that'll make rescues easier.

I found two new dungeons so far, haven't entered them yet though.
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Old 03-22-08 | 12:47 PM
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I'm hankering to play a game like Mystery Dungeon, but from the reviews I'm thinking I should start with something easier. Any recommendations?
I've played quite a few over the years and they can be very tough games. Especially if you frequently die in the middle of a dungeon and lose everything. The Pokemon one was a lot of fun and let you keep your experience points so even a death was not a total loss. I would recommend it as a good starting point. From there you can move on to the harder ones if you like the genre.
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Old 03-22-08 | 12:59 PM
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Wow, interesting. That would fall in line with the rumor of Nintendo updating the DS with a bigger screen, built in memory for downloading and getting rid of the GBA slot.

I wonder if they'll do this or just work on a true next gen portable.
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Old 03-22-08 | 01:55 PM
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I've played quite a few over the years and they can be very tough games. Especially if you frequently die in the middle of a dungeon and lose everything. The Pokemon one was a lot of fun and let you keep your experience points so even a death was not a total loss. I would recommend it as a good starting point. From there you can move on to the harder ones if you like the genre.
Thanks, sounds like a good plan.

What about dungeon games less rogue-like and more RPG I guess? Something Baldur's Gate or Diablo-like. Any recommendations?

And since I'm in a query-like mood, I'll ask again if anyone knows anything about Disciples 2? It was supposed to come out over a year ago. I'd love a HOMM like game on the DS.
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Old 03-22-08 | 03:12 PM
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Sweet, I'm ranked #32 for Table Mountain in the WFC Rankings.

I also made it to the Plains of the Sun again.

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You can go past that the second time.
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Old 03-22-08 | 11:28 PM
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I got four new games.

I'm -really- digging Shiren. Just made it through the first level (with infinite HP/funds, of course ). I'm liking a lot more than I thought. I hated Etrian Odyssey (I know, I know, blasphemy, and I also had unlimited everything for that one) so I was thinking this was going to be more of the same. It's a bit Mario RPG-ish (which is a good thing).

Advance Wars: Days of Ruin - click Left, get another move for top 4 units and replenished HP REALLY loving this one, and I wasn't really into #s 2 and 3. However I did put over 100 hours into the original GBA Advance Wars, replaying it many many times. #4 feels more like the original one. Loving it.

Anno 1701 - haven't figured out what to do yet but I've only played it for 2 minutes. Unlimited funds/wood/etc of course

Sega Superstars Tennis - haven't popped it in yet. I play mostly at work, and will get some quality time with all games this coming Sun-Mon-Tue night.

I'm still playing Picross. I've finished every level twice now, and I'm in the process of doing all the downloadable ones (over halfway done). Also been playing a lot of Neves.
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Old 03-23-08 | 07:04 AM
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I don't want to tell anyone how they should enjoy their games but it really blows my mind that someone would be having fun while using all the cheats on a Nethack-style game. The whole genre is based around item management and the tough decisions that come with a risk/reward system. To have unlimited HP would seem to basically negate all of the actual gameplay and just leave the storyline. In rogues the storyline is typically pretty dumb. I have no clue why Shiren is wandering other than he wants to find some bird that you can make wishes on. I can't imagine playing it for the story.
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There are two reasons why I still enjoy games even with 100% cheats. 1. The button mashing is relaxing, and helps me pass the time at work. Some days I can get 4-5 straight hours of gaming in.

2. Even though I had 100% health, I still went through the whole game, and there's a sense of accomplishment in finishing it because I could have had 100% cheats and never played the game The sense of accomplishment is not diminished in the least.

Four new games and what do I play? Picross and Neves. Sigh Haven't even touched Sega Tennis yet.
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Old 03-24-08 | 02:19 AM
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I don't want to tell anyone how they should enjoy their games but it really blows my mind that someone would be having fun while using all the cheats on a Nethack-style game. The whole genre is based around item management and the tough decisions that come with a risk/reward system. To have unlimited HP would seem to basically negate all of the actual gameplay and just leave the storyline. In rogues the storyline is typically pretty dumb. I have no clue why Shiren is wandering other than he wants to find some bird that you can make wishes on. I can't imagine playing it for the story.

People are just different. I know someone who doesn't want to play the Advance Wars on the DS because he doesn't have an action replay or something similar. To me I think cheating devices are less needed now then they were in the past. Now the difficulty level is much more balanced. Unlike some games in the 8 bit era which were literally impossible to beat without cheating.
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Old 03-24-08 | 06:52 AM
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People are just different. I know someone who doesn't want to play the Advance Wars on the DS because he doesn't have an action replay or something similar. To me I think cheating devices are less needed now then they were in the past. Now the difficulty level is much more balanced. Unlike some games in the 8 bit era which were literally impossible to beat without cheating.
I understand everyone is different and plays for different reasons. My confusion was using cheats on games with essentially no plot. Using a cheat in an RPG to make it through and see the story I can see. Using a cheat in a game that only offers gameplay and mechanics (ie. no story) i don't understand.

But to each their own. Hell, i spent large amounts of time in multiplayer Gears just trying to tag people with a smoke grenade so i can get behind someone making their own fun.
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Old 03-24-08 | 07:08 AM
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To me I think cheating devices are less needed now then they were in the past. Now the difficulty level is much more balanced. Unlike some games in the 8 bit era which were literally impossible to beat without cheating.
I don't know. Contra 4 nearly made me crazy at a few points. I can see that one selling a few Code Breakers.

It really just depends on the time you want to invest in a game. I got to play a borrowed copy of House of the Dead on Wii to see if I wanted to buy it and was completely pissed to find we only got to continue 5 times. I have zero interest in playing the same 1/4 of the game over and over to become an expert so I can move a little further each time. I just wanted to play through each one and use all the continues I need just like at the arcade. I would have loved to have a cheat code for that game. I ended up playing it once and blowing the game off. Basically a lost sale because they limited the continues.
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I just setup the USB Adapter. It wouldn't work on my PC, I had to connect it to the girlfriend's.

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Can I add you to my friend list for Shiren? I'm having a miserably hard time with the game. The furtherest dungeon I reached is the one right after Bamboo Village and then I die. And I'm curious what are your tips for success for Shiren since you got so far in the game?
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Old 03-24-08 | 09:28 AM
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While I agree that even above other games, cheating on Shiren is absolutely, insanely, utterly pointless, I'm still happy it received another sale. Another sale, another point towards Shiren 3 coming out in English. I think Sega will release it regardless since the Wii has yet to have much in the RPG department (but they're coming).

I've been doing random rescue runs on GameFAQs but I finally posted my own rescue request since I made it pretty far down into the Kitchen God Dungeon with some pretty good stuff and I died thinking I could take on a leveled up Bladegator which took me out completely from full HP (they have three attacks leveled up). So while waiting for that I brook out Izuna: Legend of the Unemployed Ninja again. Wow, what a difference. It's like playing Shiren with the testicles removed. Or maybe it's structured like Mystery Dungeon: Torneko in that there's a handful of "trainer" dungeons before the real deal.
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Old 03-24-08 | 09:42 AM
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Pixy

Can I add you to my friend list for Shiren? I'm having a miserably hard time with the game. The furtherest dungeon I reached is the one right after Bamboo Village and then I die. And I'm curious what are your tips for success for Shiren since you got so far in the game?
Yes, definitely add me! I'm more than up to help out new people. Let me have your friend code. My Nintendo USB adapter is still giving me hell but I hope to have it under my submission tonight. I can also give you some helpful items upon a rescue if it's over WFC and not passwords.

Some tips, let's see. You're not making it very far at all. What seems to be giving you trouble? If it's hunger, remember that eating herbs and weeds fills you up a little bit and also if you find a Hide Shield, equip that rather than a stronger shield since it halves the speed of the hunger rate. What I tend to do is wear a Hide Shield and equip a stronger one when I come across strong enemies. For some more general tips you have to play this game with what it gives you, don't hoard items. If you're surrounded, use a scroll or try to get into a corridor so you can take them on one at a time. Take things slow. If you're low on HP after killing something, hold down A+B to rest and restore your HP. Remember to use arrows. Most enemies will only take two hits so if something is coming at you, shoot an arrow at it, then let it come to you and hit it to finish it off. This is especially important later on for enemies that can affect your max stats or can hypnotize you. Learn what the staffs do, when you get an unidentified staff, swing it once at an enemy to find out what it does and then name it. Remember that an empty staff can be thrown at an enemy for one last use.
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The game Pixy and i have been discussing.

Mystery Dungeon: Shiren the Wanderer

It is a rogue-like game similar to the old Nethack ascii game on the PC.

I'm digging on it pretty hard right now. This run is going well - up to level 9 or 10 and have a Polearm +4 that has been plated.
I'm not familiar with that game. Is this similar to Diablo? Or is there a Diablo type game that is good on the DS?
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Old 03-24-08 | 03:22 PM
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Or is there a Diablo type game that is good on the DS?
I asked that and got no replies a couple days ago. But you're Hugh F-ing Laurie, so I imagine we'll get our answer soon.
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Old 03-24-08 | 03:38 PM
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Children of Mana and Final Fantasy Chrystal Chronicles are Diablo-like, without the random levels.
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Old 03-24-08 | 04:12 PM
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Shiren isn't Diablo-like at all.

It is a straight up prettied up version of Nethack imo. (note: I only say Nethack because it was the first and only Rogue i ever played and i certainly played the crap out of that game)

I haven't seen anything that is like Diablo with the skill trees and hack & slash gameplay. Hell, i haven't even seen something decent like Diablo on the PC or any other system either.

Man oh man i loved Diablo II.
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