Xbox 360 Thread - part 5?
07-20-07 | 01:56 PM
#726
Originally Posted by Save Ferris
lol i meant an official link from Microsoft. Would you not believe the technical specs for their own product?
I'm not sure what other explanation there is, aside from 1080p over component is possible when playing HD-DVDs. However, yes, a link from MS would be interesting (if they claim this isn't possible while the television tells me it is happening).
EDIT - Here is a link from xbox.com that agrees with YOU: http://www.xbox.com/en-US/hardware/xbox360/hdtv.htm
I have no idea what to make of the situation I (and others here) have reported seeing with their 1080p televisions.
Is the 360 deinterlacing the 1080i signal before being output?
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07-20-07 | 02:07 PM
#727
Yes thats the link I was thinking of (damn work keeps me from surfing lol)
Wouldnt it be more likely that its an error reporting from the 'fantastically designed' xbox360 rather than it performing above and beyond its own technical specs??
Wouldnt it be more likely that its an error reporting from the 'fantastically designed' xbox360 rather than it performing above and beyond its own technical specs??
07-20-07 | 02:16 PM
#728
Originally Posted by Save Ferris
Wouldnt it be more likely that its an error reporting from the 'fantastically designed' xbox360 rather than it performing above and beyond its own technical specs??
But since 1080i/1080p look identical on a 1080p set (to me at least), I suppose this is all "much ado about nothing." Back to your regularly scheduled 360 thread...
07-20-07 | 02:31 PM
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I just asked a friend of mine at work and he only gets 1080i for HD-DVD's and 1080p for games over component. He gets 1080p for both when using VGA.
07-20-07 | 09:12 PM
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Questions about the Elite upgrade/other stuff.
#1.) Do I have to have the Elite right now to get the free transfer cable from XBox.com? Or can I go ahead and get one in anticipation of upgrading?
#2.) How easy is it to transfer items over?
#3.) Ever since I received a refurb from Microsoft, I've noticed that some of the arcade games I had before say that I only have the trial version, and need to "unlock the full version". All XBLA games that I had before the refurb say this on my wife's XBL Silver account, as well. She'd obviously like to play these games that I purchased on her own account. Do I just need to redownload them?
#4.) How much can a used 360 be expected to sell for, reasonably? My thinking is that I sell the 360, upgrade to the Elite, transfer my data over, erase it from the Premium, and ship it out.
#1.) Do I have to have the Elite right now to get the free transfer cable from XBox.com? Or can I go ahead and get one in anticipation of upgrading?
#2.) How easy is it to transfer items over?
#3.) Ever since I received a refurb from Microsoft, I've noticed that some of the arcade games I had before say that I only have the trial version, and need to "unlock the full version". All XBLA games that I had before the refurb say this on my wife's XBL Silver account, as well. She'd obviously like to play these games that I purchased on her own account. Do I just need to redownload them?
#4.) How much can a used 360 be expected to sell for, reasonably? My thinking is that I sell the 360, upgrade to the Elite, transfer my data over, erase it from the Premium, and ship it out.
07-20-07 | 09:28 PM
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1. you need to have the Elite as you have to supply the serial # of the unit
2. you just plug the transfer cable to the usb on the back and connect the other end to the HDD. insert the transfer disc and start the transfer.
3. major side effect of getting a refurb/Elite and doing a transfer. after you get a refurb or do a transfer to an Elite you will have to be logged into Live to access the full games. MS ties the arcade games to the downloaded console and to your Live account. once you get rid of the original console you have to use Live in order to access your full games.
4. this one I can't help with. that was my original plan but my original 360 died right before my Elite shipped.
2. you just plug the transfer cable to the usb on the back and connect the other end to the HDD. insert the transfer disc and start the transfer.
3. major side effect of getting a refurb/Elite and doing a transfer. after you get a refurb or do a transfer to an Elite you will have to be logged into Live to access the full games. MS ties the arcade games to the downloaded console and to your Live account. once you get rid of the original console you have to use Live in order to access your full games.
4. this one I can't help with. that was my original plan but my original 360 died right before my Elite shipped.
07-20-07 | 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisHicks
3. major side effect of getting a refurb/Elite and doing a transfer. after you get a refurb or do a transfer to an Elite you will have to be logged into Live to access the full games. MS ties the arcade games to the downloaded console and to your Live account. once you get rid of the original console you have to use Live in order to access your full games.
07-20-07 | 09:40 PM
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when my launch unit died I didn't send it in because it was going to cost 140.00 and I had just dropped 480.00 on the Elite. I just waited until my Elite showed up and used my original 20G HDD on it(while I was waiting for my transfer kit). I had to log into Live every time I wanted to play an arcade game. it was the same thing after I transfered my original drive to the Elites 120G. I now have to be logged in any time I want to play any of my arcade games.
07-20-07 | 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by pinata242
All right, I joined up.
Sent you an invite.
Giantrobo, glad to see you FINALLY got your console back! Congrats.
07-21-07 | 01:03 AM
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From: Muncie, IN [Member formerly known as abrg923]
Originally Posted by ChrisHicks
3. major side effect of getting a refurb/Elite and doing a transfer. after you get a refurb or do a transfer to an Elite you will have to be logged into Live to access the full games. MS ties the arcade games to the downloaded console and to your Live account. once you get rid of the original console you have to use Live in order to access your full games.
07-21-07 | 01:47 AM
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Originally Posted by abrg923
Right, and this was what I was expecting...the problem is that I AM connected to XBL when I try to play them, yet it still says I only have the trial version. So, two questions ~ does this mean that I still need to re-download them, and will my wife never be able to play them on her silver account?
edit : If she was signed in when you originally downloaded the games, it should still work after the re-download. At least that's my understanding, from CAG's super-complicated "half priced" XBLA games semi-scam. You can check the details out below
Spoiler:
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07-21-07 | 01:49 AM
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Whoo hoo. Finally beat Gears.... on casual. 
No I don't suck that bad. I just quit after Act 3 last Nov. and got distracted with Viva Pinata and then the Wii, and then Crackdown, Paper Mario and other shit and just never went back.
Great game, btw.
No I don't suck that bad. I just quit after Act 3 last Nov. and got distracted with Viva Pinata and then the Wii, and then Crackdown, Paper Mario and other shit and just never went back. Great game, btw.
07-21-07 | 01:20 PM
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Welp, my 360 looks like it bit it. Was freezing up after a minute last night, and my roomate said he got the red rings later.
My girlfriend got a Walmart warrenty plan, but I wonder if it might be better to go through Microsoft in case they're actually repairing consoles and fixing this problem. I'm afraid that if I go for a replacement at Walmart it'll just break again after a few months. Any thoughts?
I blame Corvin and Pixy, since it happened a few days after adding them as friends.
Edit: Actually, reading Walmart's terms on their webpage, it looks like they just reimburse you and goes in to effect after the manufacturer's warrenty ends. I knew I should have made her buy it at Target. Heh... oh well. Guess i'll contact Microsoft later.
My girlfriend got a Walmart warrenty plan, but I wonder if it might be better to go through Microsoft in case they're actually repairing consoles and fixing this problem. I'm afraid that if I go for a replacement at Walmart it'll just break again after a few months. Any thoughts?
I blame Corvin and Pixy, since it happened a few days after adding them as friends.
Edit: Actually, reading Walmart's terms on their webpage, it looks like they just reimburse you and goes in to effect after the manufacturer's warrenty ends. I knew I should have made her buy it at Target. Heh... oh well. Guess i'll contact Microsoft later.
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07-21-07 | 01:24 PM
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I am on my third. Consider it a curse. 
07-21-07 | 02:40 PM
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Ok, here is my situation. I was given a malfunctioning 360. Everything works but the disk drive. The only problem is the guy that gave it to me tried to open the console himself. He not only removed the tape on the front, but there are little pry marks all around it. In his frustation of being unable to open it, he gave it away. So now I can't return it to MS, because I doubt they will take it with the pry marks and the tamper tape tampered with. Well, I got it open, and got to the drive, and this is what I found.
Top part of the drive:
Inside drive:
I am no expert, but I think that on the outer casing in the first picture, on that spindle, there should be little nubs. I think they broke off. I am not 100% on this, so if you know differently please let me know. When you put a disk in it makes a sound like it is trying to make the disk spin, but something is holding back from spinning. And when you take the cover off, it spins fine, but the disk won't keep up with the rate of spin on the spindle, making me think there is something that holds it down so that it spins correctly.. So, I think I need a new drive. Am I right?
Top part of the drive:
Inside drive:
I am no expert, but I think that on the outer casing in the first picture, on that spindle, there should be little nubs. I think they broke off. I am not 100% on this, so if you know differently please let me know. When you put a disk in it makes a sound like it is trying to make the disk spin, but something is holding back from spinning. And when you take the cover off, it spins fine, but the disk won't keep up with the rate of spin on the spindle, making me think there is something that holds it down so that it spins correctly.. So, I think I need a new drive. Am I right?
07-21-07 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeremy517
Trying to fix a faulty DVD drive is probably a waste of time. Replacements are cheap on eBay though.
07-22-07 | 11:07 AM
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So even apart from the 3/4 red ring of death issue, which MS will now cover for 3 years, it sounds like the 360 has an inordinate number of major technical issues/defects? You can buy an extended warranty through MS if the retailer doesn't sell one, can't you? (of course that's not considering the fact that you shouldn't have to buy an extended warranty).
07-22-07 | 01:12 PM
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GIjon213, go to xbox-scene.com and ask there. You'll find some very helpful people there that know exactly what you need to do in your situation. If I'm not mistaken it's not as easy as getting a new one and installing it, but you don't have to flash the drive. I believe you do have to "marry" the new drive to the 360 using a key from the original drive. It may sound hard, but if you can get a working 360 for the cost of a new drive and a bit of reading I think it's worth it. If not send it my way