XBOX 360 thread - 4.0 (For The Bus)
06-08-07 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeremy517
There have been rumors for a while that the premium is going away, so that might happen. I don't know if Joe Sixpack would accept that as a price drop though. I don't think it would affect sales much.
06-08-07 | 10:43 AM
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The article implies that it is competition from the Wii, rather than the more expensive PlayStation 3, that is leading current thinking on Xbox 360 pricing and software, with Microsoft apparently planning to add more family games and change retail displays to make children’s titles easier to find.
06-08-07 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeremy517
There have been rumors for a while that the premium is going away, so that might happen.
Anyway, I think a price drop is overdue. The 360 will have been out 2 years this November. Has any console gone 2 full years without a single price drop?
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06-08-07 | 12:21 PM
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The premium should go away? Do you mean the core? It makes more sense to drop the core than the premium...
Anyway, I think a price drop is overdue. The 360 will have been out 2 years this November. Has any console gone 2 full years without a single price drop?
Anyway, I think a price drop is overdue. The 360 will have been out 2 years this November. Has any console gone 2 full years without a single price drop?
06-08-07 | 12:49 PM
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The core is MS's best chance at a uber cheap system like the PS2. That is why it exists. It doesn't makes sense now, but once they can get it under $200 they will move a lot more.
The Core will not go away. Especially if MS is truly intent on battling Nintendo now instead of Sony. There's no way they will get the Premium down to $250 anytime soon. The average consumer that has been weened on the Sony method is used to buying a system and a memory card. It's just the way it works.
The hardcore crowd knows better, but for the past 10 years, you buy a system you buy a memory card. It's just the way it is.
The Core will not go away. Especially if MS is truly intent on battling Nintendo now instead of Sony. There's no way they will get the Premium down to $250 anytime soon. The average consumer that has been weened on the Sony method is used to buying a system and a memory card. It's just the way it works.
The hardcore crowd knows better, but for the past 10 years, you buy a system you buy a memory card. It's just the way it is.
06-08-07 | 03:09 PM
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Anyone else having an issue with xbox live? I can connect fine, system auto logs in like normal. I, however, cannot connect to a single game of Catan. I just checked on my PC and I am timing out when attempting to ping www.xbox.com also. Anyone else or any ideas?
06-08-07 | 04:38 PM
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It is doing the same to me as well. I just finished playing an arcade game and it took at least 30-40 seconds to go back the games blade. It was totally locked up. People are also posting about this same issues on the xbox forums, so at least MS should be aware of the issue.
06-08-07 | 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeremy517
The rumors I've heard have been the Premium going away. But really, both the Premium and core should probably go away.
Yeah I get that the average consumer is not knowledgeable enough to know that you really should get a hard drive rather than a memory card. However, they should learn that lesson. When the PS1 came out, everyone had to learn that you could not save games directly to a CD-ROM like you could with old Nintendo carts. The original Xbox had a mandatory hard drive, and now suddenly the 360 does not. Isn't technology supposed to progress, not regress?
06-08-07 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Josh H
Personally I think they should drop the Premium to $299 and the Elite to $399 and drop the core this fall.
That would be a real kick in the nuts to Sony IMO.
That would be a real kick in the nuts to Sony IMO.
06-08-07 | 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by fumanstan
The funny thing it seems like almost everyone agrees that would be a great move for the last 6 months. Everyone except Microsoft I guess.
Apparently they are starting to worry about the Wii some, so hopefully that will spurn a price drop by fall.
06-08-07 | 09:06 PM
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From: Capitol of the Empire! Center of all Commerce and Culture! Crossroads of Civilization! NEW ROME!!!...aka New York City
Just to settle an argument from a few pages ago.
When I watched the GTA IV trailer posed online, I KNEW I was gonna have to buy a console in september, so I just bought the 360 now.
the GTA IV TRAILER sells consoles
When I watched the GTA IV trailer posed online, I KNEW I was gonna have to buy a console in september, so I just bought the 360 now.
the GTA IV TRAILER sells consoles
06-08-07 | 09:39 PM
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Wow, I just got done playing a majority of the new demos....what garbage 
- Pirates - Junk, horrible controls
- Hour of Victory - Maybe original XBOX it would pass
- Shadowrun - Has some potential, but I was a bit confused at times.
- Tenchu Z - I gave it all but 2 minutes.
Oh well, only demos...they are free and I love them
Flatout trailer looked promising.
- Pirates - Junk, horrible controls
- Hour of Victory - Maybe original XBOX it would pass
- Shadowrun - Has some potential, but I was a bit confused at times.
- Tenchu Z - I gave it all but 2 minutes.
Oh well, only demos...they are free and I love them
Flatout trailer looked promising.
06-08-07 | 11:01 PM
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Overlord is pretty cool. I called my buddy as soon as I got off work to see if he tried it. He didn't care for it but said that he knew it would be right up my alley. He was spot on as always. It's simple gameplay but it's very fun.
Another thing I like is having a home to come back to in a game. Once I bought the one tower download for Oblivion I always went back to it to save. There is just something neat about having a virtual home. I'm not sure what you can do, if anything, to customize your Tower in this game but I am curious about what the Tower will evolve into.
Another thing I like is having a home to come back to in a game. Once I bought the one tower download for Oblivion I always went back to it to save. There is just something neat about having a virtual home. I'm not sure what you can do, if anything, to customize your Tower in this game but I am curious about what the Tower will evolve into.
06-08-07 | 11:39 PM
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I cracked the top 50 on Pac-Man: CE. I made it to 47 on Extra 2. I have already dropped to 50 though.
06-09-07 | 03:23 AM
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Microsoft says no price drop on the way
Of course, MS would not want to confirm a price drop for fear of sales stagnating until then...
Summary:
In response to the vibrant buzz caused by rumors claiming that Microsoft intends to make the Xbox 360 competitive by cutting its price, the company has clarified its position by stating that it has no immediate plans to do so.
Full Text:
By Eugene Huang
Although most rumors these days center on the price of the PS3, the gaming press was all abuzz about price cuts for the Xbox 360 for a change, due to a report today from Bloomberg. Utilizing the opinions of analysts and the quotes of certain Microsoft execs, the article reached the conclusion that the next-gen console may undergo a price cut in order to compete with the more popular Nintendo Wii.
"We are well aware that the sweet spot of the market is really 199 bucks,'' said Xbox product management director David Hufford, who was quoted in the article.
However, despite heightened enthusiasm shown by much of the press and gamers across the internet, Microsoft later explained today in their official Gamerscore Blog that the original Bloomberg piece used his quotes somewhat out of context.
"Some are getting really spun up about the Bloomberg story and inaccurately reading tea leaves that don't exist," Hufford later explained. "I spoke to Bloomberg nearly two months ago and we were talking about NPD data that had just been released, and chatting generally about price points of consoles in the market. The comment, which is accurately reported, unfortunately has now been taken way out of context and being reported as if I am signaling a price drop. I was not, I am not."
"With Xbox 360s selling well at their current price point, Elites selling out at $479, and an insanely great portfolio of games in the market, there's no reason to announce any kind of price drop anytime soon," Hufford concluded.
In response to the vibrant buzz caused by rumors claiming that Microsoft intends to make the Xbox 360 competitive by cutting its price, the company has clarified its position by stating that it has no immediate plans to do so.
Full Text:
By Eugene Huang
Although most rumors these days center on the price of the PS3, the gaming press was all abuzz about price cuts for the Xbox 360 for a change, due to a report today from Bloomberg. Utilizing the opinions of analysts and the quotes of certain Microsoft execs, the article reached the conclusion that the next-gen console may undergo a price cut in order to compete with the more popular Nintendo Wii.
"We are well aware that the sweet spot of the market is really 199 bucks,'' said Xbox product management director David Hufford, who was quoted in the article.
However, despite heightened enthusiasm shown by much of the press and gamers across the internet, Microsoft later explained today in their official Gamerscore Blog that the original Bloomberg piece used his quotes somewhat out of context.
"Some are getting really spun up about the Bloomberg story and inaccurately reading tea leaves that don't exist," Hufford later explained. "I spoke to Bloomberg nearly two months ago and we were talking about NPD data that had just been released, and chatting generally about price points of consoles in the market. The comment, which is accurately reported, unfortunately has now been taken way out of context and being reported as if I am signaling a price drop. I was not, I am not."
"With Xbox 360s selling well at their current price point, Elites selling out at $479, and an insanely great portfolio of games in the market, there's no reason to announce any kind of price drop anytime soon," Hufford concluded.
06-09-07 | 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by DJ_Longfellow
Wow, I just got done playing a majority of the new demos....what garbage
- Pirates - Junk, horrible controls
- Hour of Victory - Maybe original XBOX it would pass
- Shadowrun - Has some potential, but I was a bit confused at times.
- Tenchu Z - I gave it all but 2 minutes.
Oh well, only demos...they are free and I love them
Flatout trailer looked promising.
- Pirates - Junk, horrible controls
- Hour of Victory - Maybe original XBOX it would pass
- Shadowrun - Has some potential, but I was a bit confused at times.
- Tenchu Z - I gave it all but 2 minutes.
Oh well, only demos...they are free and I love them
Flatout trailer looked promising.
06-09-07 | 08:54 AM
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I am still playing the Shadowrun demo, but their are a significant number of intricacies, which I find both challenging and frustrating. I think it will most likely be an excellent game, if you give it time, which I doubt most people will be willing to do.
06-09-07 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Josh H
Good news. Have a new HD set and would love to pick up a 360, but no way at $400.
Actually, not a rumor...confirmend on CAG.
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06-09-07 | 12:28 PM
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Yeah, saw that on CAG, but does me little good since I live in MD. 
Can't afford it right now anyway, with all the cables, upconverting DVD player etc. that I already bought for the new set. I'm planning on waiting until Fall to look into getting one, unless theres some kind of crazy deal before then.
Can't afford it right now anyway, with all the cables, upconverting DVD player etc. that I already bought for the new set. I'm planning on waiting until Fall to look into getting one, unless theres some kind of crazy deal before then.