Xbox 360 thread - 3.3
#351
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Earlier then i thought. I'm a bit jealous (got mine for Christmas) but not too beat up about it. I don't need the bigger hard drive right now, nor the HDMI port since my DVD player is using it so i'll get over it.
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really i don't want this. i hope the announcement they are gonna make tommorow is that they are lowering the price of the premium. they should of made the elite 500 bucks with hd-dvd added on because if i had the money for it i would get the ps3 for 20 bucks more.
video with microsoft guy.
really i don't want this. i hope the announcement they are gonna make tommorow is that they are lowering the price of the premium. they should of made the elite 500 bucks with hd-dvd added on because if i had the money for it i would get the ps3 for 20 bucks more.
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Originally Posted by redrum
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video with microsoft guy.
really i don't want this. i hope the announcement they are gonna make tommorow is that they are lowering the price of the premium. they should of made the elite 500 bucks with hd-dvd added on because if i had the money for it i would get the ps3 for 20 bucks more.
video with microsoft guy.
really i don't want this. i hope the announcement they are gonna make tommorow is that they are lowering the price of the premium. they should of made the elite 500 bucks with hd-dvd added on because if i had the money for it i would get the ps3 for 20 bucks more.
#355
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That is just ignorant to have 3 skus. What retailer wants to stock 3 versions of the same item? Didn't they bitch about having 2 skus? 2 skus is confusing enough on Joe Consumer, 3 skus is mind-blowing.
This is a huge mistake on Microsoft's part to price the 360 twenty dollars cheaper than a PS3 without HD playback. This gen was MS's to rule with all the stumbling around Sony has done and here they are laying the ground work for Sony to get their footing back. It makes no sense.
The Elite should have been priced at $399 and be the new Premium sku and just phase out the other one with a $50 price drop.
This is a huge mistake on Microsoft's part to price the 360 twenty dollars cheaper than a PS3 without HD playback. This gen was MS's to rule with all the stumbling around Sony has done and here they are laying the ground work for Sony to get their footing back. It makes no sense.
The Elite should have been priced at $399 and be the new Premium sku and just phase out the other one with a $50 price drop.
#356
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Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
That is just ignorant to have 3 skus. What retailer wants to stock 3 versions of the same item? Didn't they bitch about having 2 skus? 2 skus is confusing enough on Joe Consumer, 3 skus is mind-blowing.
This is a huge mistake on Microsoft's part to price the 360 twenty dollars cheaper than a PS3 without HD playback. This gen was MS's to rule with all the stumbling around Sony has done and here they are laying the ground work for Sony to get their footing back. It makes no sense.
The Elite should have been priced at $399 and be the new Premium sku and just phase out the other one with a $50 price drop.
This is a huge mistake on Microsoft's part to price the 360 twenty dollars cheaper than a PS3 without HD playback. This gen was MS's to rule with all the stumbling around Sony has done and here they are laying the ground work for Sony to get their footing back. It makes no sense.
The Elite should have been priced at $399 and be the new Premium sku and just phase out the other one with a $50 price drop.
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No, I thought the core was going away. The premium would become the core and the elite would become the premium. The elite will only be a limited edition, afterwards it'll be back to white and should take the place of the premium while the current premium takes the place of the core.
#359
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Although I would love to have a black unit I feel this is only going to help Sony's cause. Now they can say why buy a xbox for 479 when you can get a ps3 for 20 more and get a blu-ray player. There's no way people won't compare this package to the 20gig ps3.
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well, in all fairness, I believe PS is trying to phase out the 20 gig unit. I know it isn't available in a lot of countries.
I think it would work out, if they had some sort of upgrade plan for existing premium owners. An extra 80 bucks for all those people would really be nothing, and would be done in a heartbeat.
If they want to make it work at the 480 range, they should really pack in some first party title that didn't do well
like Fusion Frenzy 2 maybe
I think it would work out, if they had some sort of upgrade plan for existing premium owners. An extra 80 bucks for all those people would really be nothing, and would be done in a heartbeat.
If they want to make it work at the 480 range, they should really pack in some first party title that didn't do well
like Fusion Frenzy 2 maybe
#361
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Originally Posted by lotsofdvds
No, I thought the core was going away. The premium would become the core and the elite would become the premium. The elite will only be a limited edition, afterwards it'll be back to white and should take the place of the premium while the current premium takes the place of the core.
Originally Posted by GameSpot
As for the fate of the current hard drive-less $299 Core Xbox 360 and 360-equipped Pro Xbox 360 models, Pennello said they would continue to be offered. He also confirmed the new model will be a permanent addition to the 360 product line, and not a limited edition.
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well, if you mean elite = black system, than those are supposed to be of a limited quantity. I believe they will then launch the regular one with those specs, which will be permanent
#363
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Originally Posted by abrg923
Ouch.
Not sure I can justify dropping an additional $30 for a controller I'll never use other than that one game.
Not sure I can justify dropping an additional $30 for a controller I'll never use other than that one game.
I told my wife the same thing. Then a few days later I purchase not one but two wireless guitars for my ps2 and the game. It is kind of like crack. I was going to wait for the 360 version but I wanted wireless.
#364
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No 65nm = no sale for me, I want a stable/reliable system dammit. (I'm on #3)
#365
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Originally Posted by KurrptSenate
well, in all fairness, I believe PS is trying to phase out the 20 gig unit. I know it isn't available in a lot of countries.
Originally Posted by KurrptSenate
I think it would work out, if they had some sort of upgrade plan for existing premium owners. An extra 80 bucks for all those people would really be nothing, and would be done in a heartbeat.
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well, I could probably get away with the trade, since Im good friends with a store manager, but we'll see...
its defintely wishful thinking, but yea, its not going to happen
as far as comparing prices and rationalizing the ps3 price tag, i still think the library is ultimately going to be the deciding factor.
its defintely wishful thinking, but yea, its not going to happen
as far as comparing prices and rationalizing the ps3 price tag, i still think the library is ultimately going to be the deciding factor.
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Originally Posted by KurrptSenate
well, I could probably get away with the trade, since Im good friends with a store manager, but we'll see...
its defintely wishful thinking, but yea, its not going to happen
as far as comparing prices and rationalizing the ps3 price tag, i still think the library is ultimately going to be the deciding factor.
its defintely wishful thinking, but yea, its not going to happen
as far as comparing prices and rationalizing the ps3 price tag, i still think the library is ultimately going to be the deciding factor.
Elite 360 + wireless adapter + HD-DVD drive = 779
PS3 60gig model = 599
Of course if you don't care about movies in HD and are using it just for gaming the 360 is still a better choice.
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presummably, I agree.
I think they are only doing it now, knowing no one is buying a PS3, and try to eliminate some of the features that has over the 360. I think as soon as the PS3 library starts to pick up, i think thats when they'll make this one 400, and have a price drop for the 20 gig version.
I think if they did it that way, it wouldn't hurt them too much
I think they are only doing it now, knowing no one is buying a PS3, and try to eliminate some of the features that has over the 360. I think as soon as the PS3 library starts to pick up, i think thats when they'll make this one 400, and have a price drop for the 20 gig version.
I think if they did it that way, it wouldn't hurt them too much
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Originally Posted by noonan4224
Yeah but even at that they could say xbox + wireless adapter = 579. So you could still get the blu-ray player for 20 more. I just think this is going to do more harm for the system than good. Even though there are cheaper versions, Sony is still going to use the price to their advantage.
I think MS missed an opportunity. And opened the door for Sony to ride out the bad press regarding the PS3 and make it a real viable alternative.
If the Elite came with built-in WiFi, quieter DVD drive w/upscaling capabilities without the need for VGA, and cooler processor, I would've been willing to pay the current price for it.
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Originally Posted by KurrptSenate
presummably, I agree.
I think they are only doing it now, knowing no one is buying a PS3, and try to eliminate some of the features that has over the 360. I think as soon as the PS3 library starts to pick up, i think thats when they'll make this one 400, and have a price drop for the 20 gig version.
I think if they did it that way, it wouldn't hurt them too much
I think they are only doing it now, knowing no one is buying a PS3, and try to eliminate some of the features that has over the 360. I think as soon as the PS3 library starts to pick up, i think thats when they'll make this one 400, and have a price drop for the 20 gig version.
I think if they did it that way, it wouldn't hurt them too much
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They are bigger backers of HD-DVD format. This would have been the perfect chance to get more support for that format. Include the HD-DVD drive in the Elite model, and with the other updates, still price it at $479. Then, it is still only 20 cheaper then the 20 gig PS3, but you get more storage and the HDMI and HD-DVD.
#373
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Originally Posted by Vryce
They are bigger backers of HD-DVD format. This would have been the perfect chance to get more support for that format. Include the HD-DVD drive in the Elite model, and with the other updates, still price it at $479. Then, it is still only 20 cheaper then the 20 gig PS3, but you get more storage and the HDMI and HD-DVD.
They really need to get their hard drive prices in line with reality. The rumored $200 for the 120gb separately is just asinine.
#374
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Originally Posted by Vryce
They are bigger backers of HD-DVD format. This would have been the perfect chance to get more support for that format. Include the HD-DVD drive in the Elite model, and with the other updates, still price it at $479. Then, it is still only 20 cheaper then the 20 gig PS3, but you get more storage and the HDMI and HD-DVD.
Originally Posted by pinata242
They really need to get their hard drive prices in line with reality. The rumored $200 for the 120gb separately is just asinine.
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120GB @ $179 isn't nearly as asinine as 20GB @ $100
I agree MS should have taken the hit on the Elite and sold it for $400 and gotten rid of the dumbass core unit. The Elite package at that price point would have sold like hotcakes IMO.
I agree MS should have taken the hit on the Elite and sold it for $400 and gotten rid of the dumbass core unit. The Elite package at that price point would have sold like hotcakes IMO.