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Old 08-15-06 | 07:28 PM
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I believe it. There is a mic in the $130 DS, why not a $40 controller?
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That would be great if the Wii could do that. The system sounds better every day.
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I believe it. There is a mic in the $130 DS, why not a $40 controller?
I believe there will be voice recognition but not in the Wiimote. It would cause too many limitations, you'd always have to hold it near you.

It's rumored to be done through a wireless headset, which makes sense to me. Tethering it to the Wiimote or nunchuck would cause a lot of cable-slaps to the face.
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Old 08-16-06 | 12:33 AM
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I'd think a mic in the remote would be able to pick up your voice in normal controller positions--i.e. in your lap.

I have no problems using the DS mic sitting up with the DS resting in my lap.
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Has it been announced if you can play games on the Wii with the gamecube controllers or do you have to use the new remote/joystick one? I asking mainly for new games for the Wii (not playing old gamecube/n64,ect) and more specifically Mario Galaxy?
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Old 08-16-06 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Borst
Has it been announced if you can play games on the Wii with the gamecube controllers or do you have to use the new remote/joystick one? I asking mainly for new games for the Wii (not playing old gamecube/n64,ect) and more specifically Mario Galaxy?
I would imagine that most Wii games will require a Wii controller. Look at Zelda for an example. If that were possible, you'd think the Wii version would have gamecube control support as well, but everything we've heard says no.
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Under $250 and free online service. Confirmed.

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Old 08-16-06 | 09:39 AM
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August 15, 2006 - Nintendo's new Wii console could be yours later this year for less than expected. Tokyo-based Nikko Citigroup has issued a report on Nintendo's rising stock price, and between all the jargon is the financial institution's forecast that the Wii will carry a Japanese price point of 19,800 yen.

Current exchange rates would put an equivalent US price at $170.00. However, console prices rarely convert according to exchange rates. At most, we can probable take this report to indicate an anticipated US price of under $200.

Nikko Citigroup previously forecast a 25,000 yen price for the Wii. The firm arrived at the new, lower price point based on its expectation that Nintendo will be able to procure the Wii's CPU for less than expected.

This report is just another prediction by a financial institution and shouldn't be taken as confirmation of the Wii's price. For now, the official Nintendo word is that the system will be sold for under 25,000 yen in Japan and $250 in America. Final details are expected in September.
Under $200 sounds even better.

Reggie "Kickin Ass & Taking Names" Fils-Aime on the Wii60 angle - "I'd much rather have the consumer buy a Wii, some accessories, and a ton of games, vs. buying any of my competitor's products."

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Old 08-16-06 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Borst
Has it been announced if you can play games on the Wii with the gamecube controllers or do you have to use the new remote/joystick one? I asking mainly for new games for the Wii (not playing old gamecube/n64,ect) and more specifically Mario Galaxy?
Yes, you can on certain games. For example, the new Super Smash Bros. game will supposedly allow for standard control with a Gamecube controller. However, Super Mario Galaxy requires the new controller because you need the pointer throughout the game.
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Old 08-16-06 | 10:37 PM
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Artilce on 1up confirms no GC controller option for Zelda Wii. On the bright side, they confirm that there will be original Nintendo games developed for the virtual console.

No GameCube Controller on Zelda Wii
And original games coming to Virtual Console.

by Patrick Klepek, 08/16/2006

In a move sure to upset the groups still not convinced of Wii's merits, George Harrison, Nintendo of America's Vice President of Marketing and Corporate Communications, stopped in a Camp Hyrule chat session moderated by Nintendo themselves and confirmed the Wii version of The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess will only have support for the Wii's control scheme.
Many had hoped Nintendo would allow for dual Wii and GameCube support ala a number of upcoming Wii releases, but Nintendo appears confident enough in its design that hardened fans will have to pick up the GameCube release if they're that hardcore. You still have time to decide which one sways you, as both versions will be launched simultaneously during Wii's launch date this fall.

Additionally, Harrison teased about Virtual Console, which may also host all-new Nintendo games, instead of just nostalgic classics. "Remember, there are other secrets of the virtual console that we won't reveal until we get closer to launch," he said. "Virtual console offers the possibility for us to create new games, but our focus right now is in getting the Wii hardware launched and new games from Nintendo on the virtual console will be coming sometime after the launch."

Secrets, secrets are no fun; secrets, secrets make message boards whine and moan. Let's hope we hear more from Nintendo soon.
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Old 08-17-06 | 03:05 PM
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Here a couple of cool 'fan-made' Wii boxart mockups!





source: www.neogaf.com
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That Metroid Prime box is awesome.
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damn! those are some slick covers. I recently traded in my Gamecube at work and still have $30 more dollars to pay off for my pre-order I used $10 to pre-order two games. My store has been taking "deposits" that will become pre-orders when the system is in our computer for pre-order I have been first on the list since last E3.
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Old 08-20-06 | 12:12 AM
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Where do you work Zero?
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Except for the dude growing out of Solid Snake's head, those covers are neat.
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Im going to do my best to bring in a point here, but this will be seen as bashing by many. It is not. I am just questioning why nintendo is releasing all new hardware and charging full price for it, when all they're doing is changing the controller? Check out direct quotes from nintendo...

Source: http://wii.ign.com/articles/726/726749p1.html

"The machine is based on GC," said Miyamoto. "We'll be upgrading the development tools, but GameCube code can be used for the most part as is. In that sense, I believe that it would be good to remake GameCube games for Wii, and that some titles would become better with the change to the Wii remote controller."
Are they serious? Re-Release last gens games with just new controls? If that isnt a stab in the face to all GC owners.. i have no clue what is. I own a GC myself, so nintendos strategys have seriously felt like abandonment and screwing over anyone who even bought a GC. Am i the only one seeing this?
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Old 08-21-06 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Blitz6Speed
Are they serious? Re-Release last gens games with just new controls? If that isnt a stab in the face to all GC owners.. i have no clue what is. I own a GC myself, so nintendos strategys have seriously felt like abandonment and screwing over anyone who even bought a GC. Am i the only one seeing this?
I agree, to a point. They haven't actually announced any re-releases with new control schemes yet, so I'm not offended. I can think of a few games that would work far better with the Wii controll scheme. Luigi's Mansion, anyone? However, would I rather see a true sequel than a remake? Certainly.
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Old 08-21-06 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Blitz6Speed
Are they serious? Re-Release last gens games with just new controls? If that isnt a stab in the face to all GC owners.. i have no clue what is. I own a GC myself, so nintendos strategys have seriously felt like abandonment and screwing over anyone who even bought a GC. Am i the only one seeing this?
It isn't anything new, remakes and re-releases happen all the time. I mean, you yourself have gone into a mad frenzy over Street Fighter II on Xbox Live.
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Old 08-21-06 | 10:48 AM
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It isn't anything new, remakes and re-releases happen all the time. I mean, you yourself have gone into a mad frenzy over Street Fighter II on Xbox Live.
I think most would agree that re-making a competitive fighting game to be playing online against people all over the world is different from releasing Mario 64 with the wii controls. SF2 online is epic IMO, its something fighting game fans like myself have been waiting for since the days of ditching school to go play SF2. Redoing GC games just for a new control scheme, hardly in the same league. In fact, its the worst reason to do a remake that ive heard so far.
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Old 08-21-06 | 10:52 AM
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I think most would agree that re-making a competitive fighting game to be playing online against people all over the world is different from releasing Mario 64 with the wii controls. SF2 online is epic IMO, its something fighting game fans like myself have been waiting for since the days of ditching school to go play SF2. Redoing GC games just for a new control scheme, hardly in the same league. In fact, its the worst reason to do a remake that ive heard so far.
Again, until they announce a game that is nothing more than a control update, I don't think there's any point tearing it apart. Could easily update with online play simultaneously. MK: DD would be a lot better online, possibly even with the ability to download new tracks from WiiConnect24.

But in the end, does it even matter to you? I think you've made it quite well known that you won't be getting a Wii anyway, why do you care how they screw us Wii suckers (hahaha, there's a million and one of these things and they never get old!)?
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Originally Posted by Blitz6Speed
I think most would agree that re-making a competitive fighting game to be playing online against people all over the world is different from releasing Mario 64 with the wii controls. SF2 online is epic IMO, its something fighting game fans like myself have been waiting for since the days of ditching school to go play SF2. Redoing GC games just for a new control scheme, hardly in the same league. In fact, its the worst reason to do a remake that ive heard so far.
Except Street Fighter II (and many variants) were already available for Xbox 1 and online.
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Again, until they announce a game that is nothing more than a control update, I don't think there's any point tearing it apart. Could easily update with online play simultaneously. MK: DD would be a lot better online, possibly even with the ability to download new tracks from WiiConnect24.

But in the end, does it even matter to you? I think you've made it quite well known that you won't be getting a Wii anyway, why do you care how they screw us Wii suckers (hahaha, there's a million and one of these things and they never get old!)?
Unlike what most people think, id love for the Wii to be a badass platform and id love to purchase one as long as it can compete with what im now used to. That being said, i doubt it will, but id love to be proven wrong. Ive owned every single system Nintendo has ever released, so im hardly a nintendo hater, just a long time fan thats constantly disapointed.
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Old 08-21-06 | 12:52 PM
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Are they serious? Re-Release last gens games with just new controls? If that isnt a stab in the face to all GC owners.. i have no clue what is.
Why? It's not like, even if they do remake some games, they won't be putting out original games. Given that all they've announced thus far are new games.

It will give people that don't own a GC a chance to play some GC games with the control scheme they've gotten used to on the Wii games they bought.

I have no interest in them, but don't see it as a negative.

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I own a GC myself, so nintendos strategys have seriously felt like abandonment and screwing over anyone who even bought a GC.
Again...Why? The GC came out in 2001, this is coming out in 2006. That's a 5 year gap. The X-box came out in 2001, the 360 in 2005, a four year gap.

The Wii will have 100% backwards compatiblilty. The 360 has a half assed system that won't even play new (i.e. post 360 release) x-box games for the most part.

Who abondened their customers then?

I don't think either did, but Nintendo is being much more reasonable with their customers in my opinion.

I'm sure you'll reply that Nintendo is a rip off because the graphics aren't any better, it's not HD etc. and is just a gimmicky controller attachment that they could have put out for the GC.

And that's fine if that's your opinion. However, others are fine with the graphics engine being 2x as powerful as the GC, and think the controller, the virtual console etc. etc. are more than worth the $200-250 for a new system.
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I think most would agree that re-making a competitive fighting game to be playing online against people all over the world is different from releasing Mario 64 with the wii controls. SF2 online is epic IMO, its something fighting game fans like myself have been waiting for since the days of ditching school to go play SF2. Redoing GC games just for a new control scheme, hardly in the same league. In fact, its the worst reason to do a remake that ive heard so far.
6 of one and a half dozen of another. A 12 year old game with new online play vs. a 2-4 year old game with new control mechanics? Just another way to build a bigger library of options for Wii owners. Lest you forget, Nintendo is going after new gamers, not GC owners(i.e. you). New gamers won't have a library of GC games sitting on their self. So it is hardly a slap in the face. These "revisionist" titles will be new to this demographic.

It also depends on your taste in games. You can have your SFII. I'll take a revised version of F-Zero: GX or revised version of Waverace over SFII anyday while I'm waiting on a proper Wii incarnation to be released. The details are also vague, but while they are in tinkering with the code, who's to say they don't change a few things about the game in the process to make it somewhat new to everyone? Think Zelda: OoT - Master Quest?

This is hardly slamming the Wii hardware either. I think you are misinterpreting it. The system plays GC games without a hiccup. It would be on the same level as MS rereleasing the original Halo with achievements for the 360. The game is the same and the system can play it-no problems, there is just a new feature added to entice gamers to pick it up.

Speaking of revisionist titles how about Root Beer Tapper with Wii controls. That's what I'm talkin' about.

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EA expects Wii to retail for $170
Matt Martin 17:50 21/08/2006
"Nintendo has come up with a very clever strategy," says David Gardner.

Electronic Arts has revealed it expects the Nintendo Wii to retail in the US for around $170.

Speaking exclusively to GamesIndustry.biz, executive VP and COO of EA's worldwide studios David Gardner said, "I've heard in Japan that the price is about $170, but I don't know if the price has been set in Europe yet."

Discussing the key differences between Sony's PS3 and the new Nintendo console, Gardner was positive that the WII will find its niche in the market as a consumers 'second' console.

"Nintendo has come up with a very clever strategy," said Gardner. "They've made a choice which is great for the consumer. Now we're going to have a choice whereby consumers can buy a Wii plus one other console."

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