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Mr. Cinema 02-23-06 12:37 PM

I went on my lunch break and bought the Live Kit. With reward zone discounts, total price was $26. woo hoo!

Too bad I have to work over today for a few hours. :(

ChrisHicks 02-23-06 03:02 PM

a little help for a Quake 4 newbie?

ok, so Quake 4 is annoying the crap out of me here. I am stuck way too early in this game. I'm only at the beginning of the game. I'm at Checkpoint 1 MCC Landing Site and I'm trying to find the way to open the locked door. I have been running around in this damn maze forever it seems and all I find is a closed door or another door which is open but I can't get through because of some crates that are blocking it. I have tried to jump over them but its like there is an invisible wall there or something. can anyone help a dummy get past this part? thanks.

the line starts to the left to laugh and make fun off me by the way. :)

fujishig 02-23-06 03:16 PM


Originally Posted by ChrisHicks
a little help for a Quake 4 newbie?

ok, so Quake 4 is annoying the crap out of me here. I am stuck way too early in this game. I'm only at the beginning of the game. I'm at Checkpoint 1 MCC Landing Site and I'm trying to find the way to open the locked door. I have been running around in this damn maze forever it seems and all I find is a closed door or another door which is open but I can't get through because of some crates that are blocking it. I have tried to jump over them but its like there is an invisible wall there or something. can anyone help a dummy get past this part? thanks.

the line starts to the left to laugh and make fun off me by the way. :)

You bought Quake 4? HA!

Oh wait. Gamefaqs has a couple of guides for the PC version, which should be the same. Assuming you're at the "capture the cannon" part, it looks like you have to climb up the boxes, get to the roof, kill a Medic and drop down to where he came from to open the door.

kakihara1 02-23-06 03:21 PM


Originally Posted by ChrisHicks
the line starts to the left to laugh and make fun off me by the way. :)

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: .................... rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl ...... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: ......... :lol: :lol:

j/k man I played the demo, it was cool but I don't know the part you're talking about.

ChrisHicks 02-23-06 03:21 PM


Originally Posted by fujishig
You bought Quake 4? HA!

Oh wait. Gamefaqs has a couple of guides for the PC version, which should be the same. Assuming you're at the "capture the cannon" part, it looks like you have to climb up the boxes, get to the roof, kill a Medic and drop down to where he came from to open the door.


thanks. I finally got it. the bad part is the fact that I tried climbing the boxes about 5 times before I posted too and could never get it so I just figured that wasn't it. stupid me.

bahgee 02-23-06 03:24 PM


Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
That would be the best way to go, but MS won't make any money on people buying Maxtor(insert brand here) external drives. I don't see it happening. There is too much money to be made selling accessories.


On another note, does anyone know if you can plug an external hard drive such as a Maxtor or SeaGate 200GB into the Xbox 360 USB port and have it play the music on the drive? I searched but didn't have much luck. If its possible, I'm thinking of using that set-up as my stereo since I can have all my music in a compact place. If you have had success with this set-up can you please post the model number of your drive?

kakihara1 02-23-06 03:29 PM


Originally Posted by bahgee
On another note, does anyone know if you can plug an external hard drive such as a Maxtor or SeaGate 200GB into the Xbox 360 USB port and have it play the music on the drive? I searched but didn't have much luck. If its possible, I'm thinking of using that set-up as my stereo since I can have all my music in a compact place. If you have had success with this set-up can you please post the model number of your drive?

I read somewhere that you can but you need to format the drive as FAT32.

Mok 02-23-06 09:11 PM

When are they going to put up more games in the live arcade ?

BBEANLPHIE 02-23-06 10:16 PM

Has anyone had Fight night 3 freeze up when going online?

BBEANLPHIE 02-23-06 10:20 PM

I believe street fighter 2 hyper is the next xbox live game. Supposedly from what I have been reading from gamefaqs forums and Gamespot should be in the next 2 weeks!!!

hail2dking 02-24-06 12:48 AM


Originally Posted by bahgee
On another note, does anyone know if you can plug an external hard drive such as a Maxtor or SeaGate 200GB into the Xbox 360 USB port and have it play the music on the drive? I searched but didn't have much luck. If its possible, I'm thinking of using that set-up as my stereo since I can have all my music in a compact place. If you have had success with this set-up can you please post the model number of your drive?


hakihara1 is correct, it must be fat32 format.

DJ_Longfellow 02-24-06 06:33 AM

So, anyone having issues with NHL 2K6 and freezing in franchise mode? Basically, after you finish a game it goes to the loading screen and the dots just scroll....never progresses. I looked at 2ksports.com forums, and it seems to be widespread. Bad thing is, I was about 30 games in my franchise and it started to happen.

Doug Schiller 02-24-06 09:32 AM


Originally Posted by BBEANLPHIE
I believe street fighter 2 hyper is the next xbox live game. Supposedly from what I have been reading from gamefaqs forums and Gamespot should be in the next 2 weeks!!!

Can't wait to see what they are going to charge for this. I'm guessing it will be the most expensive arcade title.

tenaciousdave 02-24-06 10:37 AM


Originally Posted by Mok
When are they going to put up more games in the live arcade ?

3 new games should be appearing very soon.

Astro Pop
Feeding Frenzy
Jewel Quest

If you check out Xbox's Arcade page they are listed as recent additions.

Liver&Onions 02-24-06 10:45 AM

For those of us who've yet to play CoD2, a new demo has been posted.

331.11 MB - Single player only (So I hear.)

The Bus 02-24-06 10:45 AM


Originally Posted by tenaciousdave
3 new games should be appearing very soon.

Astro Pop
Feeding Frenzy
Jewel Quest

If you check out Xbox's Arcade page they are listed as recent additions.

Don't hold your breath. I don't think a single XBLA game has launched on time. Usually it's good to add 1-3 months to the release date as it appears on xbox.com

mrpayroll 02-24-06 10:57 AM


Originally Posted by Liver&Onions
For those of us who've yet to play CoD2, a new demo has been posted.

331.11 MB - Single player only (So I hear.)

Is this the same demo that was on the XBox demo disk a couple of months ago?

Chris

Liver&Onions 02-24-06 11:00 AM


Originally Posted by mrpayroll
Is this the same demo that was on the XBox demo disk a couple of months ago?

Chris

I can't confirm nor deny it. But I'd guess that yeah, it probably is.

mrpayroll 02-24-06 11:00 AM

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=14932

Xbox Live business model must change, says Arena.net founder

Rob Fahey 08:30 24/02/2006

Discussions needed before MMOs can head to consoles, says Guild Wars creator

Speaking to GamesIndustry.biz this week, Guild Wars developer Arena.net co-founder Jeff Strain has said that the business model used by Microsoft's Xbox Live service needs to be overhauled before the service will be attractive to MMOG developers.

Strain, who was a senior developer at Blizzard before leaving to set up Arena.net, believes that the business model used by Xbox Live is fundamentally not designed for the close relationships MMOG operators require with their players and community.

"Their whole goal is to encourage people to go and buy games on the shelf, then there's an online component for it," he explained. "But for us, when you buy it on the shelf, that's just the beginning of our relationship with you - and we want a direct connection with our customer so that we're always giving you new content, always supporting you directly. Xbox Live just wasn't really built, from a business standpoint, to support that."

Strain acknowledged that seeking to take the customer relationship away from the platform holder and back into the hands of the publisher or developer would be a difficult thing to negotiate, but he remains optimistic that both Microsoft and Sony will embrace the opportunity represented by the MMO market.

"They know it's in their best interests to attract the top developers to develop for the console, and they know that that's going to take some business model changes," he told us. "I think that what we're going to see is that once the dust settles from the launch of this round of consoles, they're going to be very willing to engage in those discussions."

Strain was speaking in an exclusive interview with GamesIndustry.biz at a preview event in Munich for the upcoming Guild Wars Factions, the second title from Arena.net and the first of several "episodic" sequels to the million-selling Guild Wars. The full text of the interview is available on the site today.

His comments come a few months after the president of Korean MMOG giant and Guild Wars publisher NCsoft, TJ Kim, revealed to this site that his company is already working on titles for next-generation console platforms - but at the time, sources close to the company's European division were adamant that Xbox 360 was not among the platforms being targeted to begin with.

Strain's perspective on the business model issue may cast new light on why that was the case - with the control of the customer relationship being a possible stumbling block in any negotiations between NCsoft and Microsoft.

Although the possibility of MMOG titles appearing on Xbox 360 has been enthusiastically championed by Microsoft on a number of occasions, so far the only such title confirmed for launch on the platform is a port of Square Enix' PS2 and PC massively multiplayer title, Final Fantasy XI.


Chris

fujishig 02-24-06 11:58 AM

I don't really understand what he means by having a "direct relationship with the customer"... is it because Microsoft owns all LIVE servers or something, so it's not easy for them to tinker with the code to send out updates? Wait, isn't FFXI going to be run off of Square's own servers, so that Xbox360 players can coexist with the existing community?

Of course, FFXI's Playonline interface, on top of having to login to Xbox Live, is clunky as it is.

mrpayroll 02-24-06 12:38 PM

Woo Hoo, I just got my 60" HDTV back from being serviced (almost 3 weeks) and the whole ordeal started about 2 months ago. But I'm glad I paid $300 for a 4 year extended warranty back in Nov 2002.

Now I can finally see my XBox 360 games in HD, which before now I couldn't because the red input of the component in wasn't working and they had to change the HOP board.

It's been frustrating for me and the kids around the hood not having my tv and being able to play the 360. I think I will celebrate and buy my 2nd 360 game this weekend (used of course from Game Rush).

Chris

Michael Corvin 02-24-06 01:10 PM


Originally Posted by fujishig
I don't really understand what he means by having a "direct relationship with the customer"... is it because Microsoft owns all LIVE servers or something, so it's not easy for them to tinker with the code to send out updates? Wait, isn't FFXI going to be run off of Square's own servers, so that Xbox360 players can coexist with the existing community?

I'm not understanding what he is getting at either. I could see his point with the first iteration of Live on the original xbox, but not with the 360.

kakihara1 02-24-06 01:26 PM


Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
I'm not understanding what he is getting at either. I could see his point with the first iteration of Live on the original xbox, but not with the 360.

I'm assuming it's because they wouldn't have direct control of the servers but hey whatever -screwy- sounds like a copout of some sort to me.

sracer 02-24-06 01:37 PM


Originally Posted by fujishig
I don't really understand what he means by having a "direct relationship with the customer"... is it because Microsoft owns all LIVE servers or something, so it's not easy for them to tinker with the code to send out updates? Wait, isn't FFXI going to be run off of Square's own servers, so that Xbox360 players can coexist with the existing community?

Of course, FFXI's Playonline interface, on top of having to login to Xbox Live, is clunky as it is.

I think that he is referring to the "all you can eat"-type access/pricing of XBox Live. Up to this point there is no additional fees. Sure you can buy from the marketplace, but there are no additional fees for online gaming. Very similar to paying an ISP for access to the internet, but not willing to pay for access to individual sites.

To play MMORPGs 360 owners will need to pay 3 different fees. ISP, XBox Live, and the MMORPG-operators. XBox Live is another middleman that PC gamers don't need to pay. It makes the 360 less appealing.

kakihara1 02-24-06 01:51 PM


Originally Posted by sracer
I think that he is referring to the "all you can eat"-type access/pricing of XBox Live. Up to this point there is no additional fees. Sure you can buy from the marketplace, but there are no additional fees for online gaming. Very similar to paying an ISP for access to the internet, but not willing to pay for access to individual sites.

To play MMORPGs 360 owners will need to pay 3 different fees. ISP, XBox Live, and the MMORPG-operators. XBox Live is another middleman that PC gamers don't need to pay. It makes the 360 less appealing.

Maybe true but in reference to Guild Wars that makes no sense since there is no additional fee to play that particular game.


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