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Old 05-26-06 | 11:33 AM
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My region seems to be the last to get marketplace updates. I still do not see the new Oblivion or Hitman content. Plus, I don't like the "featured" content vs. standard. The "featured" content list is not alphabetically listed. I do think they needed to clean up the marketplace interface somewhat. And, give me my Poker game too.
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Problems with the marketplace structure? What problems? When I mentioned that the marketplace needed an overhaul in light of Sony's E3 presentation of their online shop, everyone asked me... what was wrong with the marketplace?
*shrug* I can see how it could be arranged more neatly but I asked you about your comments because i genuinely didn't think it was as terrible as you were making it out to be. I thought maybe there was something i was missing. I tend to keep up on the downloads (check every day or every other day for new content and d/l what i want). Then again i've been keeping up on them from the very beginning - i can see how someone just getting Live right now would be overwhelmed. So this could be a decent change - just not a really dramatic one to me.
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Old 05-26-06 | 12:29 PM
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*shrug* I can see how it could be arranged more neatly but I asked you about your comments because i genuinely didn't think it was as terrible as you were making it out to be. I thought maybe there was something i was missing. I tend to keep up on the downloads (check every day or every other day for new content and d/l what i want). Then again i've been keeping up on them from the very beginning - i can see how someone just getting Live right now would be overwhelmed. So this could be a decent change - just not a really dramatic one to me.
I've had my 360 and been on Live since launch day. The organization of the marketplace is a mess. I used to check it once every week or so, but each time I did, it was a reminder of just how poorly it is organized...so I started checking it less frequently. Maybe it is better than what was available for the original XBox, but since I've never seen Live for the XBox, I have nothing but the current system to consider.

If you think that the marketplace is fine in its current state, then consider yourself lucky. I have no desire to convince you that you should be unhappy with it too.
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Old 05-26-06 | 12:35 PM
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If you think that the marketplace is fine in its current state, then consider yourself lucky. I have no desire to convince you that you should be unhappy with it too.
Heh, i wasn't disagreeing with you here - i was just trying to explain why i had asked what your problem with it was (you had mentioned that comment). I do agree, the new layout sounds like a decent improvement and knowing what is coming makes the current setup seem much worse.
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Longer article from Kotaku

I just got off the phone with some Microsoft peeps. They walked me through what features the Live update will include and said it will hit around next Friday. Among other things, the update includes major music and DVD playback tweaks, adding the ability to conduct downloads in the background and boot to the console's dashboard.

"This is our first major system update since we launched," said Aaron Greenberg, group marketing manager for Xbox Live. "We've been collecting user feedback since we launched and we put together a very long multi-page list of new features included in this update.

Greenberg added that Msoft is continuing to develop exclusive content and plans to issue two major updates a year from now on.

Here's a rundown of the new features that the upgrade will include:

Xbox Live Marketplace
The Xbox Live Marketplace blade is getting a make-over making it easier to sort through the increasingly bloated offerings that can be found through Live.

The rework will include the addition of a New Media and Entertainment menu with the following categories:
New Releases
All Media and Entertainment
Movie Trailers and Short Films
Television, Music, Sports and More
Gaming Community Videos
Game Tips and Support Videos
Optional iPod Support.

You might have noticed that "Television, Music, Sports and More" category. Yeah, it caught my eye too. Here's what it means: Unfortunately, it doesn't mean full length prime time shows. Instead they are focusing on short form shows. Like maybe previews of next week's show or the Gears of War special. Music videos will also be here.

"We are continuing to develop exclusive content," Greenberg said, when I pressed him on the issue of the chance that prime time tv or other episodic content might be sold through Live. "Anything is possible, we have the platform for it and the partners in place."

Gaming community also has some amazing possibility, but so far it looks it will be free of your buddy playing DDR. Instead expect to see things like episodes of Red Vs. Blue and tons of machinima stuff. Greenberg added that they hope to one day allow users to upload their own original content in some way.

Another Marketplace addition is the Games option. In that category you'll find newly released downloads, Xbox Live Arcade, demos, trailers and videos for games, played games and the ability to sort through your game downloads by genre.

In general, the Marketplace is getting a lot deeper with a lot more ways to sort and find content, something that certainly comes as a reaction to the explosion of interest to the service.

Background Download Manager
Active Download will allow you to download games in the background as you do other stuff. Yes that means you can play retail games, or any other "full Xbox experience" during a download. The download manager will pause downloads automatically during multiplayer experiences. You will be able to rack up, up to six downloads at a time. Once one is completed it will go to the next. And you can see where everything stands with the Background Download Manager.

"This has been our number one feature since we launched," Greenberg said.

Control Marketplace Videos
The Marketplace video you download can now be rewound or fast forwarded at 2 to 16 times normal speed. You can do this with a controller or the Xbox remote control.

"We realized that people wanted to be able to control that," Greenberg said.

Enhanced Photo Viewing
This will allow you to preserve folders on memory cards when you transfer to your 360 and also tweaks the slidesow.

Music Player and DVD Playback Improvements
On the DVD front, the upgrade will add a feature called DVD Bookmarking, which will allow your 360 to remember where you stopped watching a movie and automatically jump back to it when you slap it back in after a few hours of GRAW. You can even turn off the console or unplug it. They've also tweaked overall DVD performance.
On the music side of things, the 360 will now remember where you were while browsing through your music. Also, now when you launch your music in the background, it will continue to play no matter what you are doing, even launching a new game or hopping around through the blades.

Dashboard Boot-Up
Finally, the update will add an option that you can set-up to allow you to boot up straight into the Xbox Dashboard instead of jumping to whatever CD, DVD or game happens to be in the console's tray when you start it up.

"We think this is going to be the default most people are going to want," Greenberg said.

Friends Status Update
Now, like instant messenger, if you're away and your screensaver turns on (usually after 15 minutes), your Friends status will show you are away. It also will show how long you've been away.

Xbox Live Vision
Msoft will also be loading camera setting to the 360 so the Xbox 360 camera will be fully supported when it hits in September. You might notice some stuff in the menus you can't use, but it's there because it's embedded in the update, you might notice things like a video chat option and the ability to take your picture and use it as your Gamertag image. Woo Hoo!

Here's the best news. This entire update will take less than a minute to download and apply, according to Greenberg and it will be applied directly to the console's flash memory. That means if you don't have a hard drive you will still be able to use the update.

Msoft is still pushing people to connect to get the update, but if you really don't want to, rest assured you can still get it. Greenberg said the update will be added to new game discs in the near future.

"This is the great example of the benefits of a unified service," Greenberg said. "We are soliciting consumer feedback and I think this addresses what a lot of gamers have been looking."

He added that since the 360 launched there have been a whopping 24 million downloads. Yikes.

"Marketplace has really taken off in a major way and we are scaling up for that usage," he said.

Wow, this sounds like a fantastic update, but I can't help but wonder what sort of anti-piracy or chip-mod prevention stuff they may have stuffed in there as well. I guess we'll all see next week.
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Old 05-26-06 | 02:30 PM
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I wonder what they mean by optional iPod support? I know there is currently a little download you can download to your 360. Unless they are just incorporating that in the dashboard now.
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Old 05-26-06 | 02:59 PM
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I wonder what they mean by optional iPod support? I know there is currently a little download you can download to your 360. Unless they are just incorporating that in the dashboard now.
I'm guessing that's it, but maybe they plan on expanding it somehow. Or are just trying to tap into some of the iPod's cachet a little more.

One thing I'd like to see is date stamps of when the content became available. And then the ability to sort a list by date. Hopefully the new layout will make this unnecessary, but I'd still like to see the date when it was first put up on live.

Otherwise, sounds like a nice update. I'm really looking forward to the download manager. There are still quite a few things from E3 I wanted to d/l but it's such a hassle to have it on and keep checking to see if the last d/l finished so I can start the new one. Especially since I usually walk away and get engrossed in something else.
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Old 05-26-06 | 03:01 PM
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It'll never happen, but I'd love to be able to play content I payed for and is on my ipod to be able to play on my 360.
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Old 05-26-06 | 03:34 PM
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I just got off the phone with some Microsoft peeps. They walked me through what features the Live update will include and said it will hit around next Friday.
Don't count on something major like this releasing on a Friday. The majority of staff doesn't work weekends and they need to be available if there's any problems.
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Old 05-26-06 | 09:29 PM
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just noticed there is a Perfect Dark Zero demo in the marketplace now in case someone wants it.

860MB by the way.
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Old 05-27-06 | 01:59 AM
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DO NOT BUY Perfect Dark Zero. I am saving you from a trip back to the store to return it or saving you from listing it on ebay for sale 2 days later.
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DO NOT BUY Perfect Dark Zero. I am saving you from a trip back to the store to return it or saving you from listing it on ebay for sale 2 days later.
I concur...
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Old 05-27-06 | 04:57 PM
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Hitman demo is up.
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Old 05-27-06 | 05:50 PM
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DO NOT BUY Perfect Dark Zero. I am saving you from a trip back to the store to return it or saving you from listing it on ebay for sale 2 days later.
I thought this was a joke, since everyone and their mom was praising Perfect Dark when the 360 first came out, so when i saw the demo was posted, i decided to give it a shot.

Wow. What an utter disapointment indeed. It is as boring as it is repetitive. Thank goodness for these demos or i might have been suckered into buying crappy games LOL.
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I thought this was a joke, since everyone and their mom was praising Perfect Dark when the 360 first came out, so when i saw the demo was posted, i decided to give it a shot.

Wow. What an utter disapointment indeed. It is as boring as it is repetitive. Thank goodness for these demos or i might have been suckered into buying crappy games LOL.
I know I made the mistake, am still trying to unload it. Does EB games still have that deal trade in two 360 games get a new 360 game.
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Old 05-27-06 | 07:53 PM
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Video demo of the new 360 update

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6151874.html
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I know I made the mistake, am still trying to unload it. Does EB games still have that deal trade in two 360 games get a new 360 game.
I know gamestop does.
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Old 05-27-06 | 09:44 PM
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Video demo of the new 360 update

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6151874.html
Excellent video.

Marketplace reorg: eh... a minor improvement. Anything is better than the way it is.
Video playback controls/bookmarking:
Background downloading:
Music playback/cddb:
Uninterrupted custom playlists:
Boot to dashboard:
Online but away status:
System blade reorg:

Looks like a decent upgrade. I'm glad to see them paying attention to the media playback functionality.

They said that there will be 2 updates a year... the next one will occur in the Fall... I'm looking forward to what they have cooking for that.
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I know gamestop does.

They don't at my Gamestop. At mine they have a 'trade in 2, get an extra $10 credit' deal now.

I can understand by they got rid of the other deal. You can actually get games for $30-40 bucks now for the 360.
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http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=17346

Release date announced for Xbox 360 camera

Ellie Gibson 14:36 30/05/2006

New peripheral to arrive in the US and Europe this September

Microsoft's director of programming for Xbox Live, better known as Major Nelson, has announced that the Xbox Live Vision camera will get a simultaneous release in Europe and the US this autumn.

The XLV camera will allow gamers to personalise their gamertag picture, send photo messages, and chat over Xbox Live. It can also be used to play Xbox Live Arcade games such as Uno and Texas Hold 'Em Poker. As previously announced, GestureTek will be providing the technology that powers the device.

According to Nelson's latest podcast, the forthcoming Xbox Live update is all set to work with the camera, so users can expect a "plug and play experience."

"The camera is launching this fourth quarter," Nelson said, adding: "We've actually given a specific date both for North America and Europe of September 19th." There was no word as to how much the camera will cost, however.

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^ Should also be noted that he said the "personalize gamerpic" is limited to prevent problems. It can only be viewed by people on your friends list, everyone else you play/see will only see your cartoony gamerpic. So no random teabags to/from strangers.
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Old 05-30-06 | 01:35 PM
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So no random teabags to/from strangers.
What about from Strangehate? Shouldn't he deserve to receive a few teabags?
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I wonder if some of the media upgrades will include support for playlists larger then 100 songs. I have a playlist on my ipod that has about 150 songs. I use it when I'm at work. Makes for a nice way to pass a shift.
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Old 05-30-06 | 02:46 PM
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What about from Strangehate? Shouldn't he deserve to receive a few teabags?
I can't believe I'm saying this but after crushing Strangehate for like the one billionth time teabagging him grew stale it's just too easy.
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I wonder if some of the media upgrades will include support for playlists larger then 100 songs. I have a playlist on my ipod that has about 150 songs. I use it when I'm at work. Makes for a nice way to pass a shift.
I hope so. Though I should point out the 100 song limit is only when you run through the iPod. If you run games off the hard drive or stream it from a computer, there is no playlist limit.

I have no idea why the distinction.
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