The 1 & Only Nintendo E3 2005 Discussion Thread
05-11-05 | 02:58 PM
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Ok gotcha. Now that I actually read the first post of this thread, there is info on this very topic. I glazed over it earlier thinking it was DS japan info. Nintendo access will be free which is not really a surprise. Here's the press release:
NINTENDO, IGN ENTERTAINMENT JOIN FORCES TO CREATE A NEW PORTABLE GAMING NETWORK
Nintendo DS Service Provides an Easy, Seamless Transition to Wireless Wi-Fi Gaming
REDMOND, Wash., May 10, 2005 – Nintendo is partnering with IGN Entertainment to create an innovative network for portable video games that is not only expansive but also extremely easy for everyone to use. Set to debut later this year, the wireless service for Nintendo DS™ will use IGN's GameSpy Technology to let people around the world link easily and wirelessly to play games, just as if they were playing face-to-face.
"With minimum setup procedures, Nintendo DS owners will be able to enjoy Wi-Fi gaming just as easily as if they were playing with their friends in the same room," explains Reggie Fils-Aime, Nintendo of America's executive vice president of sales & marketing. "To realize this simple and seamless transition to Wi-Fi gaming, we're partnering with one of the leaders in the multiplayer gaming world. Accessing the service will require no added Nintendo subscription charges, whether users hook up using a home broadband Wi-Fi connection or access a Wi-Fi hotspot at a coffee shop, library or elsewhere. It doesn't get any easier than that."
The service will be used by a variety of upcoming games, including the previously announced Animal Crossing® DS. Other titles will be revealed in the coming weeks. When using the service, DS owners can choose whether they would like to play with friends or strangers, whether nearby or on the other side of the world.
The service represents the first foray by IGN's GameSpy into portable games.
"We're excited to bring the technology that powers more than 300 PC and console video games to Nintendo's innovative wireless platform. Now developers can easily and confidently add advanced matchmaking, community and other multiplayer services to their Nintendo DS games," says Mark Stieglitz, general manager of IGN Entertainment's GameSpy Technology Group. "We're honored that Nintendo is choosing IGN's GameSpy as their middleware partner, and look forward to a very long relationship."
Nintendo DS Service Provides an Easy, Seamless Transition to Wireless Wi-Fi Gaming
REDMOND, Wash., May 10, 2005 – Nintendo is partnering with IGN Entertainment to create an innovative network for portable video games that is not only expansive but also extremely easy for everyone to use. Set to debut later this year, the wireless service for Nintendo DS™ will use IGN's GameSpy Technology to let people around the world link easily and wirelessly to play games, just as if they were playing face-to-face.
"With minimum setup procedures, Nintendo DS owners will be able to enjoy Wi-Fi gaming just as easily as if they were playing with their friends in the same room," explains Reggie Fils-Aime, Nintendo of America's executive vice president of sales & marketing. "To realize this simple and seamless transition to Wi-Fi gaming, we're partnering with one of the leaders in the multiplayer gaming world. Accessing the service will require no added Nintendo subscription charges, whether users hook up using a home broadband Wi-Fi connection or access a Wi-Fi hotspot at a coffee shop, library or elsewhere. It doesn't get any easier than that."
The service will be used by a variety of upcoming games, including the previously announced Animal Crossing® DS. Other titles will be revealed in the coming weeks. When using the service, DS owners can choose whether they would like to play with friends or strangers, whether nearby or on the other side of the world.
The service represents the first foray by IGN's GameSpy into portable games.
"We're excited to bring the technology that powers more than 300 PC and console video games to Nintendo's innovative wireless platform. Now developers can easily and confidently add advanced matchmaking, community and other multiplayer services to their Nintendo DS games," says Mark Stieglitz, general manager of IGN Entertainment's GameSpy Technology Group. "We're honored that Nintendo is choosing IGN's GameSpy as their middleware partner, and look forward to a very long relationship."
05-11-05 | 03:06 PM
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Ok... I see now. The access to the online network is free, but the access to the hotspots is only free if you use your personal home network or a free hotspot. But if you say, went to your local Starbucks to play online, you would be required to have a subscription to T-Mobile in order to use it. That is what I was confused about.
That is why when you said Nintendo is giving free hotspot access to 1000 Japanese hot spots, I was confused. You still have to pay to use the hotspot, but your access to the network to meet other players is free.
That is why when you said Nintendo is giving free hotspot access to 1000 Japanese hot spots, I was confused. You still have to pay to use the hotspot, but your access to the network to meet other players is free.
05-11-05 | 03:17 PM
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Not quite. Nintendo is setting up (in Japan) over 1000 free access hotspots that require no network configuration. Thats what I want to know if they are going to do here as well.
The wireless at all the starbucks around me is free anyway, where are you at that it costs money?
The wireless at all the starbucks around me is free anyway, where are you at that it costs money?
05-11-05 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by jeffdsmith
The wireless at all the starbucks around me is free anyway, where are you at that it costs money?
http://www.t-mobile.com/hotspot/services_plans.htm
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05-11-05 | 06:06 PM
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I hope it doesn't end up a situation where Nintendo sets up free wireless hotspots and lots of cool downloads and freebies in Japan and in America NOA spends all their time promoting lame concert events and completely screws US gamers over.
Yes, I am bitter about the US not getting a pink Kirby stylus.
Yes, I am bitter about the US not getting a pink Kirby stylus.
05-11-05 | 06:25 PM
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San Antonio is now in the works to allow free wireless access city wide. Another local city has already done so and I'm sure others will follow. My Nintendo hope is that the Revolution is in actuality a PSP killer/home console. They've said it would hook to not only TV's but monitors as well. A tablet style console that could play GCN games on the go would be so cool. They need to do something because I can't stop playing my PSP. Animal Crossing DS is set to change that though.
05-11-05 | 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by joshd2012
they are going to fall the way of SEGA.
.Anyway to get this thread back on track. The latest news is that square-enix seems to be interested in supporting Revolution. good news if true
. I'd like to see another Mario rpg by square (even though i loved paper mario and Mario and Luigi)
05-11-05 | 09:02 PM
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I can't see the point of putting more add ons for the gba sp. By definition an addon typically reduces the portability of the unit and portability is the one thing that the sp has the ds and psp beaten on handsdown. So I would assume that any additional features will actually be encompassed in a new redesigned gba unit.
I'm not sure what would get me to upgrade though. I have mp3 playback in the shuffle already which weighs almost nothing. Maybe they could tackle the ngage market with a mobile phone that plays gba games. I'd actually buy it (my current phone is ancient) but I doubt anyone else would. Anyone else have any ideas?
I'm not sure what would get me to upgrade though. I have mp3 playback in the shuffle already which weighs almost nothing. Maybe they could tackle the ngage market with a mobile phone that plays gba games. I'd actually buy it (my current phone is ancient) but I doubt anyone else would
. Anyone else have any ideas?
05-11-05 | 09:19 PM
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Details on Square/online plans, ripped from IGN:
May 11, 2005 - A recent interview with Square Enix president Youichi Wada at Japanese site Impress Game Watch suggests good things both for Nintendo's networking plans and the next generation Revolution system.
In response to Nintendo president Satoru Iwata's recent comments on the company's upcoming networking plans (Wada's comments seem to have been made prior to Nintendo's official announcement regarding its DS WiFi service), Wada offers up praise for the ideas featured in the plan, and even suggests that Nintendo could bring new users to the Online gaming world.
One area that Wada seems to be impressed with is a particularly controversial side of Nintendo's Online plan. In his comments posted at Impress Game Watch yesterday, Iwata states that Nintendo is going through with the idea of letting players connect only to players whom they've met in real life. While it's unclear how strict Nintendo plans to be with this idea (Animal Crossing DS is reported to allow for play amongst strangers), Wada applauds the move in his comments today, stating "It gives the image of taking the real world seamlessly into the virtual world." This new structure could lead to a number of changes in the current network gaming system, with Wada suggesting "the means of building a community will be completely different, and support and services will also change."
The stance Square Enix takes on the new networking plan in relation to Revolution is the most intriguing. "What increased our interest further," states Wada regarding the networking plan, "is that the next step is already being prepared for Revolution." Nintendo's networking plan is, according to Wada, "not just a portable, not just a console -- it's exactly what we wanted in that it's the birth of a completely new platform."
Wada finishes off on the note of support from Square Enix: "From here on, we'll have to challenge ourselves with content in response to what Nintendo offers. We would like to give strong support."
With these comments, Wada seems to be committing Square Enix to support of Nintendo's new networking plan, and this will almost certainly take early form on the DS. The mention of Revolution's role in the company's decision process suggests that future support for the console is a possibility as well.
In response to Nintendo president Satoru Iwata's recent comments on the company's upcoming networking plans (Wada's comments seem to have been made prior to Nintendo's official announcement regarding its DS WiFi service), Wada offers up praise for the ideas featured in the plan, and even suggests that Nintendo could bring new users to the Online gaming world.
One area that Wada seems to be impressed with is a particularly controversial side of Nintendo's Online plan. In his comments posted at Impress Game Watch yesterday, Iwata states that Nintendo is going through with the idea of letting players connect only to players whom they've met in real life. While it's unclear how strict Nintendo plans to be with this idea (Animal Crossing DS is reported to allow for play amongst strangers), Wada applauds the move in his comments today, stating "It gives the image of taking the real world seamlessly into the virtual world." This new structure could lead to a number of changes in the current network gaming system, with Wada suggesting "the means of building a community will be completely different, and support and services will also change."
The stance Square Enix takes on the new networking plan in relation to Revolution is the most intriguing. "What increased our interest further," states Wada regarding the networking plan, "is that the next step is already being prepared for Revolution." Nintendo's networking plan is, according to Wada, "not just a portable, not just a console -- it's exactly what we wanted in that it's the birth of a completely new platform."
Wada finishes off on the note of support from Square Enix: "From here on, we'll have to challenge ourselves with content in response to what Nintendo offers. We would like to give strong support."
With these comments, Wada seems to be committing Square Enix to support of Nintendo's new networking plan, and this will almost certainly take early form on the DS. The mention of Revolution's role in the company's decision process suggests that future support for the console is a possibility as well.
05-11-05 | 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris_D
Anyone else have any ideas?
Actually the phone thing would be a possiblity in Japan, but I think it is highly unlikely in the US.
05-12-05 | 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by GizmoDVD
I cant see another GBA SP2 coming out out...Its either a NEW Gameboy ITSELF, or nothing else.
05-12-05 | 02:05 PM
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I can't believe they are tapping the GBA well again. 
Gawd their abysmal support for DS has really been turning me off.
Gawd their abysmal support for DS has really been turning me off.DS support should step up in coming months with Nintendogs, Castlevania, Metroid, Mario etc.
05-12-05 | 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Gallant Pig
I can't believe they are tapping the GBA well again. Gawd their abysmal support for DS has really been turning me off.
Gawd their abysmal support for DS has really been turning me off.
05-12-05 | 11:55 PM
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The plot thickens...
http://cube.ign.com/articles/613/613340p1.html
May 12, 2005 - The Electronics Entertainment Expo 2005 is still days away, but that hasn't stopped Microsoft from debuting its Xbox 360 console on MTV. And now Nintendo has followed suit, revealing some new meaty details about its next-generation console, codenamed Revolution.
Nintendo of America's vice president of corporate affairs Perrin Kaplan describes the console as "very, very sleek." The system, which is reportedly tiny, will stand horizontally. Its width will reportedly be no more than three DVD cases stacked flatly on each other, or slightly more than an inch.
Revolution will play standard DVD media this time around. No word yet if the console will be able to play DVD movies.
It will also be able to play high-definition games and go online.
Nintendo of America's vice president of corporate affairs Perrin Kaplan describes the console as "very, very sleek." The system, which is reportedly tiny, will stand horizontally. Its width will reportedly be no more than three DVD cases stacked flatly on each other, or slightly more than an inch.
Revolution will play standard DVD media this time around. No word yet if the console will be able to play DVD movies.
It will also be able to play high-definition games and go online.
05-13-05 | 06:49 AM
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I don't know about only being able to play with people whom you have meet. And Animal Crossing will allow you to play with strangers? That is the one game that I don't want strangers in my town screwing with things.
05-13-05 | 07:34 AM
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If those size specs are true, the Revolution isn't going to beable to hold a light to the power of PS3 and Xbox360. There is on way a device that small can disapate the amount of heat these processors are generating. The Xbox360 even has to be water cooled to make it usable. The keys to cooling a CPU are lots of surface area (large heatsink), lots of air movement (large fan) or lots of heat movement (liquid cooling). Usually it is a combination of two of the three - meaning a larger case than what Nintendo is purposing.
Of course, if this console really turns out to be revolutionary, they won't need the raw power to compete.
Of course, if this console really turns out to be revolutionary, they won't need the raw power to compete.
05-13-05 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by joshd2012
If those size specs are true, the Revolution isn't going to beable to hold a light to the power of PS3 and Xbox360. There is on way a device that small can disapate the amount of heat these processors are generating. The Xbox360 even has to be water cooled to make it usable. The keys to cooling a CPU are lots of surface area (large heatsink), lots of air movement (large fan) or lots of heat movement (liquid cooling). Usually it is a combination of two of the three - meaning a larger case than what Nintendo is purposing.
You have heard of laptops right? The Gamecube? MiniMac? Just because one company doesn't want to spend the time and resources into making their system smaller doesn't mean it can't be done.Why do all these consoles have to be vertical? Talk about standing out in a home theater.
05-13-05 | 08:11 AM
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You have heard of laptops right? The Gamecube? MiniMac? Just because one company doesn't want to spend the time and resources into making their system smaller doesn't mean it can't be done.Why do all these consoles have to be vertical? Talk about standing out in a home theater.
05-13-05 | 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by joshd2012
If those size specs are true, the Revolution isn't going to beable to hold a light to the power of PS3 and Xbox360.
05-13-05 | 08:54 AM
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Why is everyone so surprised? Are you that fucking blind?
The GameCube and Xbox came out at the same time, and the Xbox clearly has more raw power than the GameCube. Do you not accept this?
Is it then so strange to think that Nintendo won't try to make a power monster like Sony and Microsoft? Does the statement of miniturization not hint at such a possibility? I'm not pulling this out of my ass, its just openning my eyes and seeing what is out there. I suggest you try it sometime.
The GameCube and Xbox came out at the same time, and the Xbox clearly has more raw power than the GameCube. Do you not accept this?
Is it then so strange to think that Nintendo won't try to make a power monster like Sony and Microsoft? Does the statement of miniturization not hint at such a possibility? I'm not pulling this out of my ass, its just openning my eyes and seeing what is out there. I suggest you try it sometime.
05-13-05 | 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by joshd2012
Why is everyone so surprised? Are you that fucking blind?
The GameCube and Xbox came out at the same time, and the Xbox clearly has more raw power than the GameCube. Do you not accept this?
Is it then so strange to think that Nintendo won't try to make a power monster like Sony and Microsoft? Does the statement of miniturization not hint at such a possibility? I'm not pulling this out of my ass, its just openning my eyes and seeing what is out there. I suggest you try it sometime.
The GameCube and Xbox came out at the same time, and the Xbox clearly has more raw power than the GameCube. Do you not accept this?
Is it then so strange to think that Nintendo won't try to make a power monster like Sony and Microsoft? Does the statement of miniturization not hint at such a possibility? I'm not pulling this out of my ass, its just openning my eyes and seeing what is out there. I suggest you try it sometime.
05-13-05 | 09:14 AM
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Its amazing how many conclusions have been drawn from constant rumors that in many cases contradict each other regarding the Revolution.
I can guarantee that the horsepower of the PS3, Xbox360 and Revolution will have zero impact on my decision to buy one. The Xbox360 has some amazing hardware specs and games that look only slightly better than Xbox games to this point.
Nintendo has already hinted that their next console would not appeal to third parties, so maybe they are going for less horsepower and more innovation. I'll wait till the thing actually gets announced before I piss all over them though.
I can guarantee that the horsepower of the PS3, Xbox360 and Revolution will have zero impact on my decision to buy one. The Xbox360 has some amazing hardware specs and games that look only slightly better than Xbox games to this point.
Nintendo has already hinted that their next console would not appeal to third parties, so maybe they are going for less horsepower and more innovation. I'll wait till the thing actually gets announced before I piss all over them though.