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Jeremy517 03-29-01 11:47 PM


Originally posted by Jeraden
Survivor over on WC so no more spoilers needed. I don't understand the strategy behind voting Jerri off this early, it makes no sense. I couldn't hear the end when Colby and Keither were discussing votes in the tent (someone here was blabbering and missed it). They were disagreeing with who to vote off next... which one wanted Jerri off? Colby had the game won if he kept Jerri on and got rid of the rest of the other tribe. As someone else posted, now there is no longer a certainty of who is going to ally with who anymore which weakens everyone but the Kuchas (or are those 3 ogakor, always get them mixed up).
Keith said something along the lines of "There is another option. We could get rid of Jerri."

Colby was very hestitant and tried to talk him out of it. I'm guessing that Tina and Keith were going to do it, with or without Colby, so he went along with it too. I'm soooo glad she's gone, but as a person who wants Keith or Colby to win, I think they screwed up. Amber is a headcase now. She could go with Kucha and end Keith/Colby/Tina really quickly. Jerri was going to be the first one off after Kucha was eliminated, so they should have just waited.

SnoopDogg 03-29-01 11:55 PM

it all depends if they can keep Amber on the their side. if Amber jumps who knows! it could get all crazy again! :D

CreatureX 03-30-01 12:23 AM


Originally posted by SmackDaddy
Just when you think they are gionna ZIG...they ZAG!!!!!!

Bwhahahahahahahahah!!!! I loved it!!!!!!

I totally agree! :D

Jeremy517 03-30-01 01:09 AM

From where I sit now, I would be willing to wager large amounts of money that Nick goes in the next episode, and Colby in the week after.

The week after would be either Keith or Tina (probably Keith), leaving the final 4 as Rodger, Liz, Tina, and Amber.

Pudthai 03-30-01 01:18 AM

Those immunity challenges are increasingly more important as the game goes on. I thought Colby was in a very good position with Jerri and Amber, but Keith and Tina have been eager it to give it to Jerri. The new alliance may be Keith, Tina, Roger, and Elisabeth. I think Colby is screwed unless he can win some immunity challenges. I do believe Tina, Roger, and Elisabeth are tight now so I think they are in control of things now.

clemente 03-30-01 02:04 AM

Elizabeth is still on, I will continue watching.

Man oh man though, me and my crew were throwing up high fives and laughing up a storm when she got the boot!!!!

And man was she just so wrong about how everyone saw her.

Jadzia 03-30-01 07:39 AM


Originally posted by Wazootyman
Spoiler:

Does anyone else think that the old Ogakor team screw themselves over tonight? I mean they had the chance to vote off Elisabeth (I'm pleased that they didn't though :)) But instead they vote off Jerri. This leaves 3 Kuchas, and 4 Ogakors... but one of the Ogakors (Amber) is a massive swing vote who had befriended Jerri, the one who was recently backstabbed. Kucha could EASILY pull Amber to their side, and pick off Colby. If Colby wins Immunity next week, then Keith is gone next week (and Vice Versa) Ogakor should have waited a week...

I mean 3 days... a week for us though!

Why would Rodger & Elisabeth ally themselves with Amber after Keith/Tina just saved Elisabeth's butt? I am guessing that ELisabeth (&Rodger) are going to be uber-grateful that they decided to eat one of their own in order to spare Elisabeth.

It's a whole new alliance now. I think Amber & Nick are the most threatened.

Sessa17 03-30-01 08:49 AM

Maybe I'm at a lost since I did not see the first season...
 
but am I the only one that thinks Roger has the best chance of winning the whole thing. I don't know how it works once they get to the last few survivors but I can't see this guy getting voted out. Since Alicia everyone always says they are voting people out b/c of being physical threats or strong willed(i.e. Jeri, Colby, Elizabeth) but Roger does not pose a physical threat, everyone likes him, & if it comes dwon to a jury picking the winner, who would vote against him. I may be missing part of the strategy, but he is my pick to win the whole thing. However onve Eilizeth is off I'll probably stop watching.

VinVega 03-30-01 09:47 AM

Spoiler:
A very interesting turn of events. The old Ogakor alliance is in serious jepordy. The fate of it really rests on Amber now. She can basically be the spoiler of the group since she is on the outside looking in on both groups of 3. She will not make it to the final 2 in my opinion, so she can basically screw all until she's voted off. A bad move voting Jerri off so soon. They should have waited until there were only the 5 of them left. Perhaps this is a move against Colby, by Tina and Keith. I don't know, but the risks they are taking at such an early point in the game are nuts. Colby is definitely exposed now, as well as Tina and Keith. I guess logic left them after spending too much time with Jerri. Maybe there was stuff going on behind the scenes that we don't see? I have no idea, but at least the producers keep this show interesting. You never know what the ending will be. It's fun. I actually cheered when Jerri got voted off. :)

Red Dog 03-30-01 10:08 AM

That was the worst strategy ever conceived last night. If I am going for the million, the person I most want to be in the final 2 with me is...JERRI! Why? Because there is no way she would win the vote of 4 of the 7 "jurors," no matter who she is going against. You odds of winning the million actually increase the longer Jerri is around.

Now Keith, Tina, and Colby risk alienating Amber, who was close with Jerri. You know that the 3 remaining Kuchas will try to convince Amber to join them, and if I were Amber, I would join them because as far as a final 4 and immunity challenges go, I would rather compete against Elisabeth, Nick, and Rodger than Keith, Tina, and Colby. I don't buy the theory that Elisabeth will be grateful for being spared. The motivation was to get rid of the troublemaker Jerri, not to spare Elisabeth.

The Ogakors were assured of being part of the final 5, and they just messed everything up. Of course, it makes next week and what happens with Amber very interesting. She is shy but she is my favorite, so it will be good to see her in the spotlight.

matchpenalty 03-30-01 10:11 AM

next up I believe may very well be Amber and boy she probably sees it coming. She now knows the others have left her out of something. SHe has to see the huge target on her back.

I actually think Roger won't win. People know he is too likeable and the game gets dirty now. Overall though this group is more likeable I think than the last at this point.

Colby probably hesitated (initially) on voting Jerri out because he knows he has votes against him from that first barramundi tribal council. He is in a precarious position because I am sure he knows the rest consider him a serious contender.

LET THE REAL GAMES CONTINUE (they started with the elimination of the WITCH this week)

Red Dog 03-30-01 10:14 AM


Originally posted by xcheckers
next up I believe may very well be Amber and boy she probably sees it coming. She now knows the others have left her out of something. SHe has to see the huge target on her back.


I can't see Amber getting voted off because if she did, that brings it back to 3-3 from the original tribes. I see Amber in the catbird seat next week - she will be the swing vote.

Sepen 03-30-01 10:33 AM

Red Dog,

I agree with your comments about it being poor strategy voting her off. But I really think they couldn't stand her,hence the votes. No strategy involved, they just wanted her out of there lives. :)


Sam

Red Dog 03-30-01 10:37 AM


Originally posted by Sepen
Red Dog,

I agree with your comments about it being poor strategy voting her off. But I really think they couldn't stand her,hence the votes. No strategy involved, they just wanted her out of there lives. :)


I think for a better chance at winning a million I could have survived another 2 weeks with her. I think Colby probably felt this way but knew that if Keith and Tina were definitely doing it (and the 3 Kuchas would no doubt go against Jerri), he had little choice. The funny thing is that I think Colby is the most vulnerable next week if Amber jumps over to the Kuchas.

Anthony Soprano 03-30-01 10:40 AM

I think Nick is the next to go unless he wins immunity. The way the show is shot, he does not have any kind of relationship with anyone there at all. So I think he is next.

Decker 03-30-01 12:06 PM


Originally posted by Red Dog
That was the worst strategy ever conceived last night. If I am going for the million, the person I most want to be in the final 2 with me is...JERRI! Why? Because there is no way she would win the vote of 4 of the 7 "jurors," no matter who she is going against. You odds of winning the million actually increase the longer Jerri is around.


That sounds logical, but the last time someone tried a strategy like that was Kelly, who ousted first Sue, then Rudy to keep Richard around; and look what happened. They had their chance to get rid of Jerri and they took it.
I look at it this way : We all hated her guts, and we only had to watch her for portions of 8 hours of TV, minus commercials. Imagine what it would be like to be with her 24/7 for 27 days. Yuck.
I knew she was gone the moment that they started to show people from Ogakor explaining why they would be voting for Elizabeth. They never tip their hats that much in the editing unless they're going to throw you for a loop. You just know that mark Burnett was off camera somewhere jumping up and down for joy when that vote happened -- for the first time since the tribes merged (in either season), the results were unexpected and the future is unpredictable.

Red Dog 03-30-01 12:11 PM


Originally posted by Decker

Originally posted by Red Dog
That was the worst strategy ever conceived last night. If I am going for the million, the person I most want to be in the final 2 with me is...JERRI! Why? Because there is no way she would win the vote of 4 of the 7 "jurors," no matter who she is going against. You odds of winning the million actually increase the longer Jerri is around.


That sounds logical, but the last time someone tried a strategy like that was Kelly, who ousted first Sue, then Rudy to keep Richard around; and look what happened.


I agree that there were Rich and Jerri parallels, but Jerri seemed to be much more hated than Rich. I mean the homophobe Rudy liked Rich - that says a lot. (Not to mention Kelly lost because Rich was closer to Greg's number than she was.) Match Jerri up one-on-one with anyone remaining - can you conceivably see her getting 4 jury votes? I would see her getting 1 or 2 at the most. Plus why mess with things if you know that you are most certainly going to be one of the final 5.

I agree that Mark Burnett must have been pleased with the outcome.


grunter 03-30-01 12:52 PM

I don't see where everyone is saying that the game is now "unpredictable". Regardless of what the Survivor site reported this morning, Colby did NOT vote for Jerri. His ballot clearly said Elizabeth. The alliance has shifted. It now contains: Keith, Tina, Elizabeth and Rodger. Mark my words - unless an immunity challenge messes things up - Colby is the next one off the island, followed by Nick and Amber. The final four will be Keith, Tina, Elizabeth and Rodger, and I'm counting on Tina to win.

The Antipodean 03-30-01 01:54 PM

Colby voted for Jerri, look again, it's very clear.

yecul 03-30-01 02:05 PM

You guys are overanalyzing. The reality is, most of these people are not very intelligent. Amber is obviously and idiot. Elizabeth ain't too bright either. Last real episode she "noticed" that Jerri and Tina didn't get along. No kidding. Way to pick up on that one so quick. :)

They voted out Jerri b/c she was hard to be around and somewhat of a threat because her vote counted twice thanks to Amber.

Next episode, Nick is gone. Then Colby, Amber, Elizabeth, Rodger. Tina beats Keith. I'm basing this on nothing so I get to change later if I want.

Red Dog 03-30-01 02:09 PM


Originally posted by grunter
Colby did NOT vote for Jerri. His ballot clearly said Elizabeth.

Not true - just checked the TIVO, and he voted for Jerri. 6-2 was the count.

Jeremy517 03-30-01 02:33 PM


Originally posted by grunter
Colby did NOT vote for Jerri. His ballot clearly said Elizabeth.
CBS's website clearly says Colby voted for Jerri. I also went back and watched it on my Tivo. Colby definitely votes Jerri. Amber and Jerri are the only ones who voted for Elisabeth.

THX 1138 03-30-01 06:23 PM

COLBY VOTED FOR JERRI! Christ people! What the hell do you think CBS's official Survivor website is for?

dhmac 03-31-01 06:02 PM

The Ogakor-3 Messed Up
 
I think the Ogakor-3 (Colby, Keith, Tina) may have messed up by voting for Jerri. Because they may have alienated Amber by their backstabbing and she's the swing vote they need to continue to pick off Kucha members. Actually, if they wanted to get rid of Jerri, a better strategy would have been to vote against Rodger. They knew Kucha was voting against Jerri, so there would be 2 votes against Elisabeth and then Jerri and Rodger in a 3 vote tie-breaker, which Jerri would lose. Then they could convince Amber that there was a miscommunication in who to vote off in case Nick got immunity and they were supposed to vote off Rodger.

Advantage of this plan:
- The Ogakor-3 don't risk alienating Amber
- Rodger picks up 3 votes (may prove key in future tie-breakers)
- Elisabeth picks up 2 votes (may prove key in future tie-breakers)
- And they still get rid of the Evil One, Jerri

Lint 03-31-01 07:43 PM


Originally posted by grunter
Colby did NOT vote for Jerri.
As mentioned previously, he did vote for Jerri. But for more proof, and just because Colby is pretty funny here, check out what he had to say about Jerri when he voted for her. Click on "Colby's Vote" near the bottom of the page here:
http://survivor.cbs.com/primetime/su...09/story5.html

Here's a transcript:
Colby: "Jerri, Jerri, Jerri. You're bugging the hell out of everybody and that knock you keep hearing at your door, it's housekeeping. It's check-out time."


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