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moviechick 04-01-01 01:52 AM

Does it really matter who gets voted off? There is only going to be one winner at the end anyway.

Patman 04-05-01 11:24 AM

Well, here's my prediction for tonight's show:

Either Colby or Keith gets the boot tonight.

If Colby wins immunity, Keith does jury duty.
If Keith wins immunity, Colby does jury duty.

I say this because I think Amber goes over to Kucha, and that'll give Kucha the votes to pick off Colby/Keith/Tina. Amber has left high and dry after the last Tribal Council. If Elisabeth plays this right, Amber comes on board to the Kucha side.

Colby was right last week, they should have stayed on course and picked off one more Ogakorian before booting off Jeri.


Red Dog 04-05-01 11:49 AM


Originally posted by Patman
Well, here's my prediction for tonight's show:

Either Colby or Keith gets the boot tonight.

If Colby wins immunity, Keith does jury duty.
If Keith wins immunity, Colby does jury duty.

I say this because I think Amber goes over to Kucha, and that'll give Kucha the votes to pick off Colby/Keith/Tina. Amber has left high and dry after the last Tribal Council. If Elisabeth plays this right, Amber comes on board to the Kucha side.

Colby was right last week, they should have stayed on course and picked off one more Ogakorian before booting off Jeri.


I agree with you 100% Patman. It will be Colby booted tonight (Keith if Colby wins immunity). I would love to see it too because I cannot stand Colby. Everyone thought Jerri was a snake, bitch, etc., but I have thought all along that Colby was the most annoying.

matchpenalty 04-05-01 12:15 PM

If I were Kucha, I would NOT vote colby off this week. GO after Amber or any Ogakor other than Colby...Let them think the game is getting level and then zing colby the next week. The votes the kucha people gave him a while back with MORE people there will then enable them to zing him the next week. In a tie, I think Colby would be toast if I remember the past voting...

Patman 04-05-01 03:49 PM

This is F-ing hilarious!

http://www.101xfm.ca/djs/morning/survivor.html

Sessa17 04-05-01 04:14 PM

I say Amber is gone tonight unless she wins immunity.

Decker 04-05-01 04:45 PM

Bye-bye Nick!
Let's get this straight : The Ogakor three (Colby, Keith and Tina) voted for Jerri because they couldn't see voting for Elizabeth instead of her. I'm sure they have no such warm feelings towards Nick (and lets face it, he's not doing a lot to win them over; he's Gervase without the charm). If he hadn't won immunity, he would surely be gone by now. Unless he wins the next challenge, the remaining Ogakor fall back in line.

Gandalf 04-05-01 04:48 PM

I say Nick goes tonight. Colby is up next.
This is despite the fact that best strategy for everyone would be trying to "break" the pairs by voting one of Keith/Tina or Rodger/Elisabeth off. However none of these four will vote against each other yet so the main targets are Amber, Nick and Colby. Amber though is not that much of a target since now, after Jerri's gone, she's probably the person you would like to be paired against in the final two.

MrKen 04-05-01 05:09 PM

Re: Maybe I'm at a lost since I did not see the first season...
 

Originally posted by Sessa17
but am I the only one that thinks Roger has the best chance of winning the whole thing. I don't know how it works once they get to the last few survivors but I can't see this guy getting voted out. Since Alicia everyone always says they are voting people out b/c of being physical threats or strong willed(i.e. Jeri, Colby, Elizabeth) but Roger does not pose a physical threat, everyone likes him, & if it comes dwon to a jury picking the winner, who would vote against him. I may be missing part of the strategy, but he is my pick to win the whole thing. However onve Eilizeth is off I'll probably stop watching.
Rodger is gone for the simple reason that
1. he will probably make it to the final 3
2. he will probably not win immunity that week
3. the person who does will HAVE to vote Rodger off for the very reasons you state- there is no way to beat this guy in a jury.

I think it will be Amber and Elisabeth, with one of them voting Rodger off in the second to last episode. I think the fact that they used the clip where Elisabeth says "I will never cast a vote for that man" (or whatever she says) is setting up the irony that she has to do that in order for her to have a chance (guarantee, really) at the million against Amber (who by my logic, will win the last immunity challenge).

bfrank 04-05-01 07:23 PM

I like what Patman is saying but I think amber is still better of with her tribe so she migh not do it. I still think Nick is the front runner if not him than Roger. If Cick than Elizabeth is next.

But if Patman is right we will see more Elizabeth

Patman 04-05-01 07:39 PM

The 1st 20 minutes this week has to be some of the funniest Survivor yet!

Spoiler:
With Colby coming out of nowhere to win immunity, I still think Keith is a goner - he got lots of butt time when they should him catching crickets. The producers put too much effort making us think that Nick will be voted out.
:)

Patman 04-05-01 07:48 PM

Jeff Probst is one cruel guy.

Patman 04-05-01 08:05 PM

Spoiler:
Oh man, I was wrong! Ogakor is sticking together. This is probably the best thing that Amber could have done, to stick with them and make it to the final four and not piss anyone off on the jury. I think Nick was really delirious at the end, didn't even stick with his Kuchan tribe and went on a personal tangent.


briank 04-05-01 08:17 PM


Originally posted by Patman
Spoiler:
Oh man, I was wrong! Ogakor is sticking together. This is probably the best thing that Amber could have done, to stick with them and make it to the final four and not piss anyone off on the jury. I think Nick was really delirious at the end, didn't even stick with his Kuchan tribe and went on a personal tangent.


But Patman, CONSIDER THIS!:

Spoiler:
Amber can still switch over. She could have met with Liz and for them to decide that is how it will be. Vote Nick out then she'll join them! That way it gaurentees her FINAL THREE (asuuming no immunity by their last bootee). Because if she joined Roger and Liz now it would be a 3-3 vote and they can choose KEITH or COLBY who both have plenty of votes so they would win in the tiebreaker. And then have a 3-2 advantage then a 3-1 advantage.............OR their could be a "small" truth to the rumoured Elizabeth, Keith, Roger, Tina alliance and that is why Roger and Liz voted Amber because they didn't want to offend Nick their "old" buddy and now jury member and they couldn't vote Colby so they went for Amber because they weren't going against their "alliance" of Tina and Keith. Remember Tina is PLAYING the game and has switched on more than one occasion already. Either scenario is possible above and even if it's the first one, the Amber votes were probably strategic since "two" doesn't matter compared to Colby and Keiths many votes. Just for thought.

LX98Civic 04-05-01 08:21 PM

Who was voted off????????
 
I can't believe it!!! I look at the clock and it's 9:10!!

f**k, $hit, mother f**ker, I missed the damn show tonight!!

First time since the second episode!

I am now pissed! ...and it better not be Elisabeth who got voted off!!!

So? ...details of tonights episode would be nice!

nevermind 04-05-01 08:38 PM

Well so far my posts/predictions on 3/14 are holding up. I'm pretty sure I'm wrong next week though.

briank, good points!

LX98Civic 04-05-01 08:40 PM


Originally posted by dbrink
Well so far my posts/predictions on 3/14 are holding up. I'm pretty sure I'm wrong next week though.

briank, good points!

Who got the boot tonight?

nevermind 04-05-01 08:51 PM


Originally posted by Tercel_w_Double5

Originally posted by dbrink
Well so far my posts/predictions on 3/14 are holding up. I'm pretty sure I'm wrong next week though.

briank, good points!

Who got the boot tonight?

Spoiler:
Nick.

zuffy 04-05-01 09:11 PM

Spoiler:
it was hilarious seeing all of them but Colby and Amber having to do the number 2 after the auction bidding

Patman 04-05-01 09:50 PM

Brian, that'd work for me. :)
Spoiler:
Amber
's the only one left in my pool. Heh.

Spoiler:
Here's the thing: I don't think they'll be anymore surprises unless Rodger or Elisabeth win an immunity challenge. So this means the 4 Ogakorians will be in the final four. Think about it, Amber knows that Rodger and Elisabeth voted for her, so there's just no way Amber would switch sides now and force a 3-3 tie for either Keith or Colby vs. Elisabeth or Rodger, in which case Elisabeth or Rodger would win due to the votes casted against Colby/Keith in the past tribal councils.



[Edited by Patman on 04-05-01 at 07:54 PM]

briank 04-05-01 09:59 PM

I wouldn't put it past Keith (and Tina) to turn on Colby soon. After getting defeated in the immunity challange (which meant really nothing since neither were in danger) Keith looked a little "disappointed". And if he sees Colby to beating him in challanges he could turn on him soon and in his mind still have a 3-2 advantage (with Tina and Amber) over Rog and Liz. And he would see himself as high man on the totum pole for immunity challanges. Just another scenario to add to the pot.



By the way I've read a few "spoilers" at other sites that basically have predicted the last 4 weeks almost perfectly.
One has the last 4 weeks predicted and was posted 6 weeks ago and goes down to "telling" the final 4.
The other group predicts every week on Thursday morning or around that and they have been VERY ACCURATE with DETAILS from the upcoming night's episodes for the past 3 weeks.

Gandalf 04-05-01 10:44 PM

Remember guys: the contestants are NOT playing it the intelligent/logical way! Neither of them!

Tonight's outcome was fairly predictable due to the fact that Amber was quite unlikely to switch sides. She just hanging in there and doesn's have that much initiative. OR, the Tina/Keith/Roger/Elisabeth alliance is more clear to the players than we can see from the show, so she knew she had no chance in getting Tina/Keith out with the help of the 3 Kuchas.

As I repeatedly said, breaking the two strong pairs is vital to winning this game.
After today's immunity though, it is quite obvious that Colby is the next target as Keith doesn't like him that much and he is the strongest contestant in the game. The "alliance" I mentioned will probably vote him off unless he wins another immunity.

It might become important again the number of votes each player has against him so far. I think Roger and Tina have none, Keith and Colby have plenty, while Elisabeth and Amber have two each.

Gandalf 04-05-01 10:55 PM

Re: Re: Maybe I'm at a lost since I did not see the first season...
 

Originally posted by MrKen

Rodger is gone for the simple reason that
1. he will probably make it to the final 3
2. he will probably not win immunity that week
3. the person who does will HAVE to vote Rodger off for the very reasons you state- there is no way to beat this guy in a jury.

Number 2 is pretty weak. More than likely the final challenge will not be too physical, giving fair chance to everyone.

Argument 3 is correct unless one of the three is Elisabeth. If the third one gets to pick, it will be a tough decision whether to go against Roger or Elisabeth and some may consider E. more of a threat. If Elisabeth wins immunity it will be a mistake to pick Roger, but she may play it honest to the end and go with her best friend from the tribe.

Roger and Elisabeth are both my favourite picks right now, and Roger has the upper hand since it looks like the others all realized there's no way to win against Elisabeth and they might try to vote her off earlier.

But I think the game was lost in tonight's episode when they had the chance of voting her (or Roger) off and they went for Nick instead. Sure, in theory the Ogakors still have the opportunity to do this next week, except that they might prefer to take the opportunity to get rid of Colby (if they get it) - the strong guy - and thus lose the chance of getting rid of the good guys.


Alyoshka 04-05-01 11:33 PM

Re: Re: Re: Maybe I'm at a lost since I did not see the first season...
 

Originally posted by Gandalf

Originally posted by MrKen

Rodger is gone for the simple reason that
1. he will probably make it to the final 3
2. he will probably not win immunity that week
3. the person who does will HAVE to vote Rodger off for the very reasons you state- there is no way to beat this guy in a jury.

But I think the game was lost in tonight's episode when they had the chance of voting her (or Roger) off and they went for Nick instead. Sure, in theory the Ogakors still have the opportunity to do this next week, except that they might prefer to take the opportunity to get rid of Colby (if they get it) - the strong guy - and thus lose the chance of getting rid of the good guys.


I think that this could possibly get very interesting. It was the right move to vote Nick off if they are going to stick to their alliance. He was the only one that could potentially get the strength back to win immunities of both physical and mental kinds. I think both Rodger and Amber could win one or the other but not both.

Now if the Ogikor Alliance contines and Nick stayed in they might find it ending with one Ogikor and one Kucha if say Nick kept winning immunity. If this were the case the jury would more than likely be much closer and because it would be Kucha revenge time.

However, I think that now they could get Elizabeth and Rodger off because I doubt either of them could win the remaining challenges.

Of course this might not hold up if the Ogikor alliance dissolves over the next couple weeks.

That's just my theory.

Gandalf 04-06-01 12:27 AM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Maybe I'm at a lost since I did not see the first season...
 

Originally posted by Alyoshka

Now if the Ogikor Alliance contines and Nick stayed in they might find it ending with one Ogikor and one Kucha if say Nick kept winning immunity. If this were the case the jury would more than likely be much closer and because it would be Kucha revenge time.

However, I think that now they could get Elizabeth and Rodger off because I doubt either of them could win the remaining challenges.
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Mmmm... There is some point in what you say, although Nick's getting back in shape looked quite unlikely from what they showed. Whereas Roger and Elisabeth are big threats from the "goodness" point of view. If they picked Nick from fear he might be too strong, then they won't go for Roger/Elisabeth next as you suggest and as I also think will make more sense, but instead they will turn on Colby who's clearly the strongest now.


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