Writers Strike 2023
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I’ll never understand being so bitter about the average worker getting a little more of the pie, and actively cheering for the wealthy to gorge themselves ever more at our expense.
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It’s sadly human nature. We’re kind of shortsighted about things like that. Look at the NBA and how much some players are making and how people bitch about it. The money has to go somewhere and I’d rather it go to the people that entertain me and not billionaires.
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While using as an Avatar, a TV character created entirely whole-cloth by a team of full-time television writers.
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Jay G. (07-18-23)
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So tell the studio execs that if they don't want to refuse to give up any of their millions of compensation each year to pay the talent more, then those execs can just get rid of the starts people want to see and hire some of those unknowns lining up for the jobs. I fail to see why your derision is reserved entirely for the "unreasonable" writers and actors with none for the unreasonable studio heads.
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Jay G. (07-18-23)
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Jay G. (07-18-23)
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Not shocked at all being on a forum that loves TV and needs new episodes of NCIS back 
I can’t wait to see what terrible contract they eventually take.

I can’t wait to see what terrible contract they eventually take.
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This has nothing to do with loving TV. I’m in favor of all workers striking for better wages and working conditions. It seems like you’re the one bitter that you think these people should entertain you while starving.
If we all wanted our new shows no matter what, wouldn’t we be telling them to get back to work? What you say, as usual, isn’t really making any sense.
If we all wanted our new shows no matter what, wouldn’t we be telling them to get back to work? What you say, as usual, isn’t really making any sense.
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Jay G. (07-18-23)
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This has nothing to do with loving TV. I’m in favor of all workers striking for better wages and working conditions. It seems like you’re the one bitter that you think these people should entertain you while starving.
If we all wanted our new shows no matter what, wouldn’t we be telling them to get back to work? What you say, as usual, isn’t really making any sense.
If we all wanted our new shows no matter what, wouldn’t we be telling them to get back to work? What you say, as usual, isn’t really making any sense.
meanwhile the guilds are now telling “influencers” not to do previous jobs occupied by strikers otherwise they’ll never be members of the current striking club. Hahaha. Like they give a shit.
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And those people should strike for more money as well. Your disdain for their job is obvious. The pie is big enough for everyone to earn more if those at the top weren’t hoarding the wealth.
Capitalist propaganda has turned people’s brains in this country into mush. Take your scraps and be grateful! The ruling class needs their super yacht money!
Capitalist propaganda has turned people’s brains in this country into mush. Take your scraps and be grateful! The ruling class needs their super yacht money!
#437
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https://onlabor.org/the-aftereffects...authorization/
On January 29, 2022, postproduction staff at Vice Media ratified a new three-year agreement with the company by a 97% margin. These staff members are a part of Local 700, the Editors Guild of the International Alliance of Theatrical Stage Employees (IATSE). The union members secured 40-hour workweeks, down from 50 hours, and high pay increases, up to 48.4% higher for the lowest-paid members. Were these Vice Media staffers inspired by last year’s IATSE movement in Hollywood?
From October 1 to October 3, 2021, IATSE union members associated with Hollywood producers, studios, and streamers voted to authorize a strike. Of the 89.7% of members who participated, 98.7% voted yes. Without proper contingency plans in place, movie- and TV-production sets across the country would have shut down. But just as the strike was set to start, a tentative agreement with the Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers (AMPTP) was reached on October 16, 2021. On November 15, 2021, IATSE members ratified the agreemennt/
From October 1 to October 3, 2021, IATSE union members associated with Hollywood producers, studios, and streamers voted to authorize a strike. Of the 89.7% of members who participated, 98.7% voted yes. Without proper contingency plans in place, movie- and TV-production sets across the country would have shut down. But just as the strike was set to start, a tentative agreement with the Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers (AMPTP) was reached on October 16, 2021. On November 15, 2021, IATSE members ratified the agreemennt/
https://iatse.net/iatse-president-is...ne-approaches/
The motion picture and television industry thrives on the creativity, skill, and labor of every worker involved, and writers’ contributions are an important part of the success of the films, television shows, and other media IATSE members work on. We recognize and support our fellow entertainment workers in their mission to negotiate an agreement that addresses their issues from the AMPTP, an ensemble that includes media-mega corporations collectively worth trillions of dollars.
In response to the AMPTP’s familiar resistance, the writers have taken the step of voting in favor of strike authorization, arming Writers’ Guild leadership with the authority to call a strike if the ongoing talks do not produce necessary results. As their current agreement is set to expire on May 1, 2023, I call on the AMPTP to immediately acknowledge the contributions of these talented and dedicated professionals and negotiate with their unions in good faith.
In response to the AMPTP’s familiar resistance, the writers have taken the step of voting in favor of strike authorization, arming Writers’ Guild leadership with the authority to call a strike if the ongoing talks do not produce necessary results. As their current agreement is set to expire on May 1, 2023, I call on the AMPTP to immediately acknowledge the contributions of these talented and dedicated professionals and negotiate with their unions in good faith.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/bu...2m-1235511886/
As the ongoing writers strike continues to shut down film and television productions, major crew union IATSE is contributing $2 million in funds to aid members who are taking a financial hit.
The union’s general executive board has unanimously approved this contribution to be divided among three top industry charities — the Motion Picture & Television Fund, The Entertainment Community Fund and the Actors Fund of Canada — IATSE announced on Thursday. The donations are specifically designated for IATSE members in need; the over 168,000-member union represents a broad swath of crew members, from grips to sound editors to costumers.
“For those who are struggling, you are not alone, the 170,000 kin of our Alliance are with you, and help is available,” IATSE international president Matt Loeb said in a statement. “We trust these proven industry charities to deliver this much-needed support directly to IATSE members who need it most, and we will continue to explore all avenues to provide necessary assistance to our members as they weather the storm during the writers’ strike.”
The union’s general executive board has unanimously approved this contribution to be divided among three top industry charities — the Motion Picture & Television Fund, The Entertainment Community Fund and the Actors Fund of Canada — IATSE announced on Thursday. The donations are specifically designated for IATSE members in need; the over 168,000-member union represents a broad swath of crew members, from grips to sound editors to costumers.
“For those who are struggling, you are not alone, the 170,000 kin of our Alliance are with you, and help is available,” IATSE international president Matt Loeb said in a statement. “We trust these proven industry charities to deliver this much-needed support directly to IATSE members who need it most, and we will continue to explore all avenues to provide necessary assistance to our members as they weather the storm during the writers’ strike.”
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And those people should strike for more money as well. Your disdain for their job is obvious. The pie is big enough for everyone to earn more if those at the top weren’t hoarding the wealth.
Capitalist propaganda has turned people’s brains in this country into mush. Take your scraps and be grateful! The ruling class needs their super yacht money!
Capitalist propaganda has turned people’s brains in this country into mush. Take your scraps and be grateful! The ruling class needs their super yacht money!
They can’t. Most of them will be losing their homes and cars shortly, but it’s cool, writers can get a few extra bucks each week while they eat snacks.
I’m not going to change anyone’s opinion in a TV forum, so I’m not really that concerned. Just expect far less scripted when this is over and many of those writers in new careers.
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The crew have their own unions, and recently got their own pay increases after threatening to strike.
https://onlabor.org/the-aftereffects...authorization/
They're in support of the Writer's Strike:
https://iatse.net/iatse-president-is...ne-approaches/
They're helping their members who've been affected by the strike:
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/bu...2m-1235511886/
Don't try and rope in the crew, as if you actually care about them, in your arguments against the writers and actors. The crew supports them, because they know the value of a union themselves. Also, I'd bet dollars to donuts you'd be slamming the crew if they ever went on strike to argue for better compensation.
https://onlabor.org/the-aftereffects...authorization/
They're in support of the Writer's Strike:
https://iatse.net/iatse-president-is...ne-approaches/
They're helping their members who've been affected by the strike:
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/bu...2m-1235511886/
Don't try and rope in the crew, as if you actually care about them, in your arguments against the writers and actors. The crew supports them, because they know the value of a union themselves. Also, I'd bet dollars to donuts you'd be slamming the crew if they ever went on strike to argue for better compensation.
#440
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Wonder if the A-list actors are willing to take a pay cut, in support of the non-A list rank and file actors. (ie. Tom Cruise, Brad Pitt, etc ....).
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Such a ridiculous comment to make.
And by the way, those A-List actors are out there striking in support of those working actors, not for themselves.
Last edited by Decker; 07-18-23 at 12:35 PM.
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Jay G. (07-18-23)
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I would be surprised if they were willing to do any pay cut. Need more cash for all those payments to ex-wives, mansions, etc ...
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Which is always funny to me about salary caps in sports. Who does that benefit? Only the owners. They’re all about the free market, but then they cry when it affects them. Waaahhh my team isn’t competitive because he has more money than me. Oh, yeah, sucks doesn’t it? Almost like unlimited wealth is an unfair advantage, and you only understand when you’re not the richest person in the room anymore.
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Now on the other hand, how popular would HBO be if someone other than Zazlov ran the company? My guess : Just as popular.
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Which is always funny to me about salary caps in sports. Who does that benefit? Only the owners. They’re all about the free market, but then they cry when it affects them. Waaahhh my team isn’t competitive because he has more money than me. Oh, yeah, sucks doesn’t it? Almost like unlimited wealth is an unfair advantage, and you only understand when you’re not the richest person in the room anymore.
The continued existence of the league and bolstering the overall popularity of the sport does benefit the owners, but it also benefits the players. The one thing about professional sports leagues is that there are an exact and limited number of job openings for the players.There are 1700 roster positions for NFL players. If the league did not have systems in place to keep all its teams in business, there would be fewer jobs for players to have.
Also, there is no professional sports league with a salary cap where the best players are not paid immense fortunes for their efforts, and those leagues also have minimum yearly salaries well beyond what an average person makes in a year.
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Cusm (07-19-23)
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Just saw today that Dwayne Johnson received the highest upfront salary ever --$50 million, for the movie Red One.
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