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Old 07-23-21 | 10:21 AM
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Re: Masters of the Universe: Revelation -- Sequel Series (Netflix, Executive Produced by Kevin Smith)

Originally Posted by OldBoy
I was talking about Hamill’s turn as Skeletor. What does that have to do with He-Man?
Are you saying Hamill as Skeletor is classic or this series?

I'll agree that Hamill seemed destined to play Skeletor, but this series basically backstabbed He-Man.

They should've just called it "Teela and the Masters of the Universe".
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Originally Posted by candyrocket786
Are you saying Hamill as Skeletor is classic or this series?

I'll agree that Hamill seemed destined to play Skeletor, but this series basically backstabbed He-Man.

They should've just called it "Teela and the Masters of the Universe".
Well, the show is called "Masters of the Universe" and not "He-man and..."
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Well, the show is called "Masters of the Universe" and not "He-man and..."
Yeah... that doesn't fly. It's a sequel series to a show called " He-Man and The Masters of the Universe " with the title character featured heavily in the promo trailers.

Sort of a shitty bait/ switch by Netflix and Smith.

The first episode was completely badass and then it becomes the Teela show.

So I'm guessing she becomes the " new" He-man/ She- Woman in part 2? Doesn't She-Ra (who is already a complete badass) already fulfill that role ?
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Old 07-23-21 | 10:47 AM
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He-Man is the most generic character in the Masters of the Universe world. If he was being replaced as lead by another male character no one would care. It's because he's being replaced by a female character that has people up in arms.
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Yeah... that doesn't fly. It's a sequel series to a show called " He-Man and The Masters of the Universe " with the title character featured heavily in the promo trailers.

Sort of a shitty bait/ switch by Netflix and Smith.

The first episode was completely badass and then it becomes the Teela show.

So I'm guessing she becomes the " new" He-man/ She- Woman in part 2? Doesn't She-Ra (who is already a complete badass) already fulfill that role ?
She will become "Man-at-Arms" (so to speak).
Old 07-23-21 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by candyrocket786
Yeah... that doesn't fly. It's a sequel series to a show called " He-Man and The Masters of the Universe " with the title character featured heavily in the promo trailers.

Sort of a shitty bait/ switch by Netflix and Smith.

The first episode was completely badass and then it becomes the Teela show.

So I'm guessing she becomes the " new" He-man/ She- Woman in part 2? Doesn't She-Ra (who is already a complete badass) already fulfill that role ?
Old 07-23-21 | 10:56 AM
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He-Man is the most generic character in the Masters of the Universe world. If he was being replaced as lead by another male character no one would care. It's because he's being replaced by a female character that has people up in arms.
Don't you mean the most ICONIC character in the MOTU universe? Both he and Skeletor are the brand just like Prime/Megatron, Lion-o/Mummra for their respective properties.

Had Smith/Netflix relaunched She-Ra (which is way overdue in this animation style), killed off She-ra and let Bo take center stage (and eventually her Power sword)... do you think the fandom/general public would be OK with that? I sure as hell wouldn't.
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Old 07-23-21 | 11:00 AM
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I think it depends if they called it "She-ra" or "Princesses of Power."

I do think that it's not just gender swap rage, though. I mean if Moss man was the new main protagonist, I'd be scratching my head just as much (though I would still give it a try).

I still haven't watched it so I'll refrain from commenting on the actual quality of the show with the role change, but if it tells a decent story with the characters, I'm fine with He-man being there but not front and center all the time. The old series was basically him being able to beat everyone anyway.
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Re: Masters of the Universe: Revelation -- Sequel Series (Netflix, Executive Produced by Kevin Smith)

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I think it depends if they called it "She-ra" or "Princesses of Power."

I do think that it's not just gender swap rage, though. I mean if Moss man was the new main protagonist, I'd be scratching my head just as much (though I would still give it a try).

I still haven't watched it so I'll refrain from commenting on the actual quality of the show with the role change, but if it tells a decent story with the characters, I'm fine with He-man being there but not front and center all the time. The old series was basically him being able to beat everyone anyway.
This is like The Last Jedi 2.0 or the whole Prime vs Rodimus thing.

As I said... loved the first episode. I thought it set the stage and we were in for a killer ride, but I don't give two shits about Teela. Now if they were giving her a spin-off series, then fine.... she should be the lead.
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Originally Posted by fujishig
I think it depends if they called it "She-ra" or "Princesses of Power."

I do think that it's not just gender swap rage, though. I mean if Moss man was the new main protagonist, I'd be scratching my head just as much (though I would still give it a try).

I still haven't watched it so I'll refrain from commenting on the actual quality of the show with the role change, but if it tells a decent story with the characters, I'm fine with He-man being there but not front and center all the time. The old series was basically him being able to beat everyone anyway.
Teela and Man at Arms were fairly major good guys characters in the original. It was mainly a trio with them two and He-Man. Moss Man is just a random villain so that would be quite a bit different.

It is most certainly just gender swap rage with the typical "well what if they made Black Panther white type defense arguments".
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Old 07-23-21 | 11:58 AM
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Teela and Man at Arms were fairly major good guys characters in the original. It was mainly a trio with them two and He-Man. Moss Man is just a random villain so that would be quite a bit different.

It is most certainly just gender swap rage with the typical "well what if they made Black Panther white type defense arguments".
Your example seems to focus on "Race Swap" and no one seems to care about that. I have no issues with King Grayskull being black (if that's what you're implying). They could've made him Korean or Mexican and he'd still be a badass.

The main issue is that they took an character with an established fan-base/brand and basically benched him to allow a secondary character to take center stage. Hell... they basically benched Skeletor as well, when you think about it.
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Old 07-23-21 | 01:12 PM
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Re: Masters of the Universe: Revelation -- Sequel Series (Netflix, Executive Produced by Kevin Smith)

Haven’t gotten a chance to watch this, but I’m slightly disappointed to hear that He-Man is sidelined in this new series. I won’t let it ruin the show as it seems well reviewed so far, but I will agree that He-Man was a large part of the appeal for me.

I guess if it’s for legal reasons that the show couldn’t feature He-Man in the title and thus that’s partly why he’s not the focus I do get it.
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Re: Masters of the Universe: Revelation -- Sequel Series (Netflix, Executive Produced by Kevin Smith)

Watched the first episode and it was pretty cool. Brought back all the great memories of the original cartoon and toys. I'm surprised that folks are surprised about He Man having a reduced role since they made no secrets that Teela was going to be the main character.
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I think most people associate He-Man with Masters of the Universe though. So it makes sense.
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Old 07-23-21 | 05:45 PM
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Who cares about Teela?
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And why is He-Man so prominently displayed in art work? Like my wallpaper above. Are they trying to dupe us and simply for promotion?
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And why is He-Man so prominently displayed in art work? Like my wallpaper above. Are they trying to dupe us and simply for promotion?
Based on what I've seen...YES

I'm guessing Teela and Friends wasn't a win with the focus groups.
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Yeah the marketing does feel a tad deceptive. I mean I’m still willing to give the show a shot, but come on. They know what they’re doing, and why it’s going to irk some people.

He-Man and Skeletor were always the big draws to Masters of the Universe. Clearly that’s why they’re large and center on the artwork and prominently featured in the trailers.

It seems like the creators knew if they marketed this as a Teela centric show there wouldn’t be as much interest. The thing I find somewhat odd too is if they wanted to do a show with a female centric character in the MOTU universe there already was one recently. She-Ra also had a Netflix series that wrapped last year. If the show couldn’t be called He-Man and the Masters of the Universe for legal reasons they still could have had him prominently featured and kept the same name.

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Originally Posted by Why So Blu?
Watched the first episode and it was pretty cool. Brought back all the great memories of the original cartoon and toys. I'm surprised that folks are surprised about He Man having a reduced role since they made no secrets that Teela was going to be the main character.
Kevin Smith got into a public feud with a website when they reported a year ago that an insider had told them that the series would bench He-Man and Teela would be the star, as well as a few other details. Kevin called them liars and worse. The popular first look trailer seemed to back him up when it featured a big battle between He-Man and Skeletor set to "Holding Out For A Hero".
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It seems like the creators knew if they marketed this as a Teela centric show there wouldn’t be as much interest. The thing I find somewhat odd too is if they wanted to do a show with a female centric character in the MOTU universe there already was one recently. She-Ra also had a Netflix series that wrapped last year. If the show couldn’t be called He-Man and the Masters of the Universe for legal reasons they still could have had him prominently featured and kept the same name.
I would've had zero issues if they were going to do She-Ra Revelations series. If their goal was to have a powerful female as the lead, that's the route they should've taken, especially since the 200X series had plans to introduce her.

Missed opportunity right there.


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I've seen He-Man and Skeletor fight 100 times so I was fine with seeing something new with this. More spotlight on Evil Lyn was a plus too.
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I finally got around to the first episode and I rather enjoyed it. However, I watched the second episode a few hours later, and I found it a bit of a drag.
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Originally Posted by candyrocket786
So I'm guessing she becomes the " new" He-man/ She- Woman in part 2?
Actually, if you want a spoiler (not a spoiler if you saw the 80's series)...

Spoiler:
Teela is the daughter of the sorceress. That's the secret Man-at-Arms and Adam tried to tell her in the new series but keep getting stopped.

This series is not Teela becoming the new He-Man, it's her becoming the new sorceress.

Go to 19:00 in this video

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Actually, if you want a spoiler (not a spoiler if you saw the 80's series)...

Spoiler:
Teela is the daughter of the sorceress. That's the secret Man-at-Arms and Adam tried to tell her in the new series but keep getting stopped.

This series is not Teela becoming the new He-Man, it's her becoming the new sorceress.

Go to 19:00 in this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKsyX9ILiKM

Yeah, I'm familiar with that spoiler from the 80's, but I don't think that's what the creators had in mind for this series. I think they are going for a
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