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Old 05-12-14 | 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Groucho
It's going to be a tough category this year, assuming he's nominated for Best Actor (and not supporting). McConaughey / Thorton / Dinklage.
He's supporting. Always has been.
Best Drama Series Actor is loaded with McConaughey, Thorton, Hamm, Cranston and Spacey.
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Is this the first time they've ever used the term "dwarf" on the show? I only recall the term "imp" being used.
No, they've used it on a number of occasions. Here's one of my favorites where they did...

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Old 05-12-14 | 11:06 PM
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Laws of Gods and Men" -- 5/11/14

Originally Posted by dhmac
Tyrion had more classical education is my guess, so he probably talks more like his personal tutors.
Jaime also rebelled against that side of his father.
Old 05-13-14 | 12:37 AM
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"Watching your vicious bastard die gave me more relief than a thousand lying whores," definitely ranks up there as a favorite moment. Even looking at the gif posted above, I enjoyed it all over. Joffrey needed to go. Westeros has had enough of Mad Kings.
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Originally Posted by sven
No he was sent south to retake Moat Cailin back from the Iron Born.
Thanks!

So he never left the Dreadfort? What a lazy bastard!
Old 05-13-14 | 08:54 AM
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I found Varys eyeing the throne a bit strange. I never really took him as wanting to have the throne for himself. I thought he enjoyed acting in the shadows.
Old 05-13-14 | 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by dalbowski
so he never left the dreadfort? What a lazy bastard!
Nice!
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Laws of Gods and Men" -- 5/11/14

Originally Posted by spainlinx0
I found Varys eyeing the throne a bit strange. I never really took him as wanting to have the throne for himself. I thought he enjoyed acting in the shadows.
I think he is smart enough to know sitting on the throne is a dangerous thing, but it has been shown that just because you are king, it doesn't mean you are necessarily the person in charge. I think he does have high aspirations though. The strange thing was for him to tip his hand like that, especially to someone that he doesn't know that well.
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Originally Posted by Ketamine
I think he is smart enough to know sitting on the throne is a dangerous thing, but it has been shown that just because you are king, it doesn't mean you are necessarily the person in charge. I think he does have high aspirations though. The strange thing was for him to tip his hand like that, especially to someone that he doesn't know that well.
Hmm, curious indeed...
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Originally Posted by Ketamine
I think he is smart enough to know sitting on the throne is a dangerous thing, but it has been shown that just because you are king, it doesn't mean you are necessarily the person in charge. I think he does have high aspirations though. The strange thing was for him to tip his hand like that, especially to someone that he doesn't know that well.
I don't think he has aspirations of actually sitting on the throne. I read his nod as stating that he does it all for the "game". He has some level of power for not being high-born and that's what he has passion for.
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Help me out: If you evoke a trial by combat do you have to fight yourself? or can you just hire someone to fight for you? Like he did with Braun.

Does the crown default to the head of the king's guard - Jamie?

There must be an angle here that I am not seeing... Jamie vs Tyrion (they refuse to kill each other..they both get banished from kings landing - same result as if Tyrion were to plead guilty)
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Laws of Gods and Men" -- 5/11/14

Originally Posted by CPA-ESQ.
Help me out: If you evoke a trial by combat do you have to fight yourself? or can you just hire someone to fight for you? Like he did with Braun.

Does the crown default to the head of the king's guard - Jamie?

There must be an angle here that I am not seeing... Jamie vs Tyrion (they refuse to kill each other..they both get banished from kings landing - same result as if Tyrion were to plead guilty)
I may be incorrect.. but I think that you can either elect to fight yourself or name a champion that will fight for you. Both sides get to make this decision.
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Originally Posted by Canis Firebrand
I may be incorrect.. but I think that you can either elect to fight yourself or name a champion that will fight for you. Both sides get to make this decision.
I would assume that the Champion for the crown has to be Jamie and then Tyrion will choose to fight himself (that is what I would do)
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Laws of Gods and Men" -- 5/11/14

I've been rewatching season 1, and there are a lot of parallels to the current season. When Tyrion is standing trial in the Vale, he evokes trial by combat and picks Jamie to be his champion. They disallow that because he's too far away, so then Tyrion asks for a volunteer and Bron steps forward.

I actually wondered if Tyrion might pick Jamie again, but maybe his station wouldn't allow it. Plus he's not the fighter he was with two hands, of course.
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Laws of Gods and Men" -- 5/11/14

Originally Posted by CPA-ESQ.
I would assume that the Champion for the crown has to be Jamie and then Tyrion will choose to fight himself (that is what I would do)
I doubt they'd put Jamie up to it considering his hand, or lack thereof. And I doubt Tywin would risk Jamie being killed if things went poorly.
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Laws of Gods and Men" -- 5/11/14

Originally Posted by Canis Firebrand
I may be incorrect.. but I think that you can either elect to fight yourself or name a champion that will fight for you. Both sides get to make this decision.
You are correct. Same as the first time.
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Originally Posted by Why So Blu?
I also liked the dragon reveal as he got his roasted goat kabob on! That's some good eats!
That scene seriously reminded me of the first Dragonriders of Pern book.
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Laws of Gods and Men" -- 5/11/14

Cerci as the accuser gets to pick her champion
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Laws of Gods and Men" -- 5/11/14

Originally Posted by davidh777
I've been rewatching season 1, and there are a lot of parallels to the current season. When Tyrion is standing trial in the Vale, he evokes trial by combat and picks Jamie to be his champion. They disallow that because he's too far away, so then Tyrion asks for a volunteer and Bron steps forward.

I actually wondered if Tyrion might pick Jamie again, but maybe his station wouldn't allow it. Plus he's not the fighter he was with two hands, of course.
What happens if your champion loses a Trial By Combat and there isn't a huge hole in the floor? Are you summarily executed on the spot? I seem to be less familiar with Westos legal procedures than I am with their banking practices.
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What happens if your champion loses a Trial By Combat and there isn't a huge hole in the floor? Are you summarily executed on the spot? I seem to be less familiar with Westos legal procedures than I am with their banking practices.
Not necessarily executed on the spot, but you will be sentenced to death. I suppose it all depends on how much of a public display they want to make of the matter.

In any case, for the sake of this argument, it's a rather precarious place for certain people to be in. If Tryion or Cersei were to pick Jamie - there are a whole host of possibilities that could go down. Jamie could win, but in his current state still learning how to fight with one hand, and not his good one, this is very unlikely. In which case, Jamie dies, and Tywin, Cersei and Tyrion are all screwed. Tywin is out the male heir he needs to continue his family bloodline, Cersei is out her lover, and Tryion dies, too. Almost the same thing happens if Cersei were to pick Jaime and he loses, except Tryion goes free, but at the cost of his brother, and just about the only person standing by his side right now.

I doubt Tyrion will be able to pick Bronn, (note that we've yet to see him this entire trial) and even if he did, this time out Bronn would most likely decline him to save his own skin.

Spoiler:
And yes, I know how it plays out in the books, but the speculation of how it could go if the TV producers decide to shake things up is still cool to think about. Especially to play along with those who have no clue.
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Laws of Gods and Men" -- 5/11/14

Originally Posted by B.A.
Let's run away from some vicious dogs after fighting other humans w/ weapons!
The scene would have been awesome if it was put to Benny Hill music.
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Originally Posted by Canis Firebrand
We did see Davos give a satchel full of money to the pirate and promise more as well, I believe.
Speaking of Davos, I am enjoying what has become his signature gag of correcting people when they mischaracterize his former profession as they talk about his past.
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Lily Allen turned down the role of Yara, because she didn't want to be involved in 'Double Incest'

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TIL that Theon is Alfie.

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