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Old 03-17-14 | 07:50 AM
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "The Grove" -- 3/16/14

I wonder if it was Tyrese or Carol who had to finish Mika off? I guess they thought it would be too much after seeing Lizzie killed.
Old 03-17-14 | 08:11 AM
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "The Grove" -- 3/16/14

Originally Posted by TomOpus
I wonder if it was Tyrese or Carol who had to finish Mika off? I guess they thought it would be too much after seeing Lizzie killed.
Carol is the one who stayed with Mika. So I guess it was Carol.

Or if you have watched the show, you know that Tyrese couldn't do it, and Carol would be happy to do it.
Old 03-17-14 | 08:33 AM
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "The Grove" -- 3/16/14

I was waiting for Lizzie to pull a Glen Close from Fatal Attraction after she killed her sister, "I will not be ignored!"
Old 03-17-14 | 08:42 AM
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Amazing episode, best of the season and probably top 5 for the series.
Old 03-17-14 | 08:53 AM
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "The Grove" -- 3/16/14

Well, there goes Carl's chance for a woman who was as crazy as his mother.
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "The Grove" -- 3/16/14

Originally Posted by General Zod
I was kind of hoping they would tie Lizzie up next to Mika and then head down the road.
Yep! Same here.
Old 03-17-14 | 09:38 AM
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "The Grove" -- 3/16/14

Originally Posted by Raul3
Carol is the one who stayed with Mika. So I guess it was Carol.

Or if you have watched the show, you know that Tyrese couldn't do it, and Carol would be happy to do it.
That's true. Carol does the jobs that need to be done. Can't wait to see what happens between her and Rick when he finds out what she had to do to protect Judith.
Old 03-17-14 | 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by DthRdrX
Interesting comment made on TD, the fire may have been the house Beth and Daryl set on fire.
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That wasn't obvious?
I thought it was
Old 03-17-14 | 09:50 AM
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "The Grove" -- 3/16/14

Originally Posted by General Zod
I was kind of hoping they would tie Lizzie up next to Mika and then head down the road.
That's exactly what I was hoping on. I doubt Carol would let Lizzie suffer though.
Old 03-17-14 | 10:20 AM
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "The Grove" -- 3/16/14

Carol is like The Terminator in mom jeans.
Old 03-17-14 | 10:26 AM
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "The Grove" -- 3/16/14

Hope Daryl is able to reconnect with Beth. If Carol wasn't damaged goods before, she sure is now.
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "The Grove" -- 3/16/14

Originally Posted by creekdipper
Hope Daryl is able to reconnect with Beth. If Carol wasn't damaged goods before, she sure is now.
I don't think she's damaged goods. She understands what needs to be done to survive in this new world. She still cares for her people and is capable of being the kind nurturing Carol of the past. She's just going to handle stuff that needs to be handled. She will not be paralyzed in the corner anymore or wait for someone else to do it.
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "The Grove" -- 3/16/14

Once again, it shows that this show's characters, writing, and acting, isn't good enough to do these heavily character oriented episodes. They really should just stick with doing more story focused episodes.
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Meh, this episode should have been better than it was.

We've seen Lizzie's character in two other episodes over the last 3 months. The character wasn't developed well enough to make what happened this episode feel organic. Her craziness went from 3 to 11. The writers didn't earn this episode, and so it came across as comical more than anything else. The whole concept could have been great, but the character was underdeveloped.

The show is really, really bad at multi-episode character arcs, one of its big problems. The current format of episodes focusing on only one or two characters makes it even more difficult. When you compare it to shows with an equal number of characters and multiple story arcs that have balanced screen time every episode, you can begin to understand the deficiencies of what they're doing on TWD.

I did like the scenes with Carol and Tyrese, especially at the end when she revealed she is the killer.
Old 03-17-14 | 11:56 AM
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "The Grove" -- 3/16/14

Originally Posted by creekdipper
Hope Daryl is able to reconnect with Beth. If Carol wasn't damaged goods before, she sure is now.
Who isn't? You do what you need to do to survive...plain and simple.
Old 03-17-14 | 12:00 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "The Grove" -- 3/16/14

Originally Posted by TGM
meh. didn't have enough invested in those two girls as characters to be completely upset they were killed... still a bit surprising, but, if this is "the" episode of this half of the season, then I'm likely going to be disappointed.
This.
Old 03-17-14 | 12:24 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "The Grove" -- 3/16/14

Originally Posted by TGM
Carol is like The Terminator in mom jeans.
Carol is Blain from Predator.

Too bad Carol & Merle Dixon never got together; I'm sure that child would have grown up to be Lord Humungus and ruled the wasteland.
Old 03-17-14 | 12:33 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "The Grove" -- 3/16/14

Hell with Daryl, I want Carol on my team.
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "The Grove" -- 3/16/14

How come it took Mika so long to turn? It seems like they usually turn pretty quick after they die. I was expecting her to get up during the exchange between Carol and Lizzie, but it never happened.
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "The Grove" -- 3/16/14

Originally Posted by Nausicaa
Meh, this episode should have been better than it was.

We've seen Lizzie's character in two other episodes over the last 3 months. The character wasn't developed well enough to make what happened this episode feel organic. Her craziness went from 3 to 11. The writers didn't earn this episode, and so it came across as comical more than anything else. The whole concept could have been great, but the character was underdeveloped.

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I did like the scenes with Carol and Tyrese, especially at the end when she revealed she is the killer.
I thought the two kids had tons of scenes this season; they even called back to some of them in this episode. They had the library, fence talks/naming, quarantine, shootings, and fleeing the prison. If crucifying a disemboweled and flayed rabbit is a "3" for you, I'd hate to see what you were like as a kid.

I dunno, I liked this episode. I liked the acting, the pace, & the writing. While it wasn't Game of Thrones good, I thought it was a solid bit of TV.
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "The Grove" -- 3/16/14

Originally Posted by creekdipper
Hope Daryl is able to reconnect with Beth. If Carol wasn't damaged goods before, she sure is now.

It seemed to me that Carol got some of her humanity back. Although it seems to me they are going to pair up Daryl and Beth together. LIke someone else mentioned, this is not normal human society. The show likes to push enevlopes of what is acceptable in the new world.
Old 03-17-14 | 12:55 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "The Grove" -- 3/16/14

Yeah, I thought they gave the girls a good amount of screen time, dating back to the prison. People have been talking about Lizzie being whacko for awhile now, so I don't think her crazy turn was that big of a change or a surprise. They felt as developed as Tyrese, Sasha, and Bob to me. While it could have been better, I'm impressed the show had the balls to make a girl kill her sister, and then have an adult kill the girl.
Old 03-17-14 | 01:04 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "The Grove" -- 3/16/14

Originally Posted by Gambit
How come it took Mika so long to turn? It seems like they usually turn pretty quick after they die. I was expecting her to get up during the exchange between Carol and Lizzie, but it never happened.
The time seems to vary, even up to a few hours. I don't recall a theory on why that was though. In my head I was thinking that the zombie plague was like a virus, and some people could naturally resist it better then others.
Old 03-17-14 | 01:20 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "The Grove" -- 3/16/14

Any idea why the group of zombies were smoldering? I assumed it had something do to with that fire, but since that was apparently just the house/shack Daryl and Beth set on fire, I'm guessing there's a different reason.

Did I completely miss something (likely!)?
Old 03-17-14 | 01:24 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "The Grove" -- 3/16/14

Originally Posted by Navinabob
The time seems to vary, even up to a few hours. I don't recall a theory on why that was though. In my head I was thinking that the zombie plague was like a virus, and some people could naturally resist it better then others.
It took Andrea's sister quite a while to turn. And there was another guy (still alive, but bit) that took forever as well. I'm waiting to see the first person that gets bit and DOESN'T turn. You'd have to figure there has to be at least a small fraction of a percentage of people who are immune.


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