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Old 11-27-13 | 08:34 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "Dead Weight" -- 11/24/13

Originally Posted by achau9598
Even though this is yet another attack on the prison, he never had a tank - giving him an advantage that he never had before. Seems that would be the last attack he will need.
I know there are many people drooling over the tank ... it is useless if the Governor wants the prison as a safe haven for his people. What are they going to do with it? Run over the gates and blow up the buildings? That defeats the purpose.

As far as the zombie apocalypse goes, a tank would be great for safe transportation. Beyond that it doesn't have much use.
Old 11-28-13 | 10:07 AM
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "Dead Weight" -- 11/24/13

Originally Posted by Abob Teff
I know there are many people drooling over the tank ... it is useless if the Governor wants the prison as a safe haven for his people. What are they going to do with it? Run over the gates and blow up the buildings? That defeats the purpose.

As far as the zombie apocalypse goes, a tank would be great for safe transportation. Beyond that it doesn't have much use.
I wonder if it is going to be a stealth tank. Where it will suddenly appear without a sound and startle everyone in the prison... much like the ninja zombies who for some reason stand completely still and silent only to lunge out at a split second.
Old 11-28-13 | 11:57 AM
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "Dead Weight" -- 11/24/13

Originally Posted by Abob Teff
I know there are many people drooling over the tank ... it is useless if the Governor wants the prison as a safe haven for his people. What are they going to do with it? Run over the gates and blow up the buildings? That defeats the purpose.

As far as the zombie apocalypse goes, a tank would be great for safe transportation. Beyond that it doesn't have much use.
I don't think the prison issue is one of a safe haven, but of revenge ... The Gov wants to get Michonne, he wants to get Rick ... what better way than to destroy them once and for all ..

If he is in charge - there will always be another Woodbury. he can make it that way. Destroy the prison - destroy those that crossed him.
Old 11-28-13 | 02:48 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "Dead Weight" -- 11/24/13

Originally Posted by RocShemp
These two episodes were basically an origin story for the Governor. Except not. But the whole gist is that he was always a crazy fucker. There's no reason for that except to showcase the actor in the role. He is genuinely excellent but he's stuck with an uninteresting character. I'd like it if both he and Rick died in a one-on-one showdown that rivals the final moments of the titular duel in Freddy vs Jason.
Lol more like Peter vs Sylar
Old 11-28-13 | 10:33 PM
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I can't imagine how they're going to make this work, but for some reason I'm imagining that he's going to want to join the groups together. Like he sees Rick as a strong leader and he just wants his new family to be safe there.
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "Dead Weight" -- 11/24/13

Originally Posted by Abob Teff
I know there are many people drooling over the tank ... it is useless if the Governor wants the prison as a safe haven for his people. What are they going to do with it? Run over the gates and blow up the buildings? That defeats the purpose.

As far as the zombie apocalypse goes, a tank would be great for safe transportation. Beyond that it doesn't have much use.
I agree. That's the one glaring plot point in using the tank, especially the way this story arc has been panning out so far.

Originally Posted by achau9598
I don't think the prison issue is one of a safe haven, but of revenge ... The Gov wants to get Michonne, he wants to get Rick ... what better way than to destroy them once and for all ..

If he is in charge - there will always be another Woodbury. he can make it that way. Destroy the prison - destroy those that crossed him.
Nah, everything he's said and done up to this point (since his reintroduction in the last two episodes) has been about keeping his new family safe. The whole point in confronting the group at the prison is to take it from them, so his new group can use it's benefits of safety, themselves. However, if you are going to roll a tank over the fences, and blow holes in the walls, this kind of defeats the purpose. Does it not?

Before, in last season, it was about wiping the other group of competition out. He didn't need the prison, he had Woodbury. Now, however, the prison represents something else entirely.

I think he may have gone there originally, as others have speculated, with the idea of asking Rick to take his new family in. I will give you that his seeing Michone likely changed this, though. Her, he definetely holds a grudge against. Rick, he at least, grudgingly, respects.

Now granted, in the comics it went down more the way you are suggesting, but we've already seen that the show does not follow the comics story line verbatim. Sometimes, they will just throw in random bits and pieces as a bone to the comics readers. The tank, could just be one of these. Regardless, I'm looking forward to seeing how it all turns out.

Spoiler:
On one of the Walking Dead podcasts I listen to, they went to the "Walker Stalker Con", where most of the cast was. They said Andrew Lincoln, without giving away any specifics, stated that the mid-season finale would go to some of "the deepest, darkest places the show has ever gone to before". Take that for what you will.

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Old 11-29-13 | 01:26 AM
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "Dead Weight" -- 11/24/13

Originally Posted by Rocketdog2000

Spoiler:
On one of the Walking Dead podcasts I listen to, they went to the "Walker Stalker Con", where most of the cast was. They said Andrew Lincoln, without giving away any specifics, stated that the mid-season finale would go to some of "the deepest, darkest places the show has ever gone to before". Take that for what you will.
Spoiler:
Sounds like Judith will be Chris Hardwick's special guest star ...
Old 11-29-13 | 04:26 AM
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "Dead Weight" -- 11/24/13

Originally Posted by Jacoby Ellsbury
Cool link. I like seeing the proximity and different directions the prison, farm and woodbury are from each other. Can't believe they haven't traveled outside of a 50+/- mile circle. The CDC seems to be the furthest they have been from the prison
Those are just the shooting locations so they aren't really useful for figuring out how far the characters on the show have traveled around. For example, the location used for shooting the CDC scenes in the show is actually a performing arts center, while the real location of the CDC is over 10 miles away southeast from there (if you zoom in a little on the Google Map, it's near where it says "Mason Mill Park").
Old 11-29-13 | 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by kiddk1
Lol more like Peter vs Sylar
Who? Is that a reference to the comics?
Old 11-29-13 | 07:59 AM
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "Dead Weight" -- 11/24/13

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Who? Is that a reference to the comics?
The tv show "Heroes."
Old 11-29-13 | 09:48 AM
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "Dead Weight" -- 11/24/13

Originally Posted by TomOpus
The tv show "Heroes."
I thought it was family guy reference. Maybe the chicken was named Sylar or something.
Old 11-29-13 | 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by TomOpus
The tv show "Heroes."
Ah, gotcha. Never watched that show so I have no idea who those characters are.
Old 11-29-13 | 05:03 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "Dead Weight" -- 11/24/13

Originally Posted by Rocketdog2000
I agree. That's the one glaring plot point in using the tank, especially the way this story arc has been panning out so far.
I don't think he really cares about keeping the prison intact. He just wants revenge.
Old 12-01-13 | 08:07 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "Dead Weight" -- 11/24/13

Originally Posted by sven
I don't think he really cares about keeping the prison intact. He just wants revenge.
True, but the "I want the prison" story is what he's trying to use to convince his followers.

Originally Posted by Troy Stiffler
Sort of like how, if they were trying to really make the situation real, they would be out slaying zombies daily. The Gov would have been shot in the head long ago and that fence would be much stronger. The group would be onto restarting civilization, with zombies and larger factions (like a possibly still-existent US government) getting in the way.
Kirkman describes The Walking Dead as "the zombie movie that never ends," but I think that having an endpoint is important in storytelling. Because the show itself has to be renewed on a season-by-season basis, they can't plot far ahead, and because of the focus on a small group of characters, you lose the wider scope, I'm kind of surprised that with the exception of The Governor and a few stray here and there, Rick and co. haven't encountered more people. You're right that there would probably be more going, possibly even the remaining government, plus the question of the rest of the world.

Can I be the showrunner?
If you can get me a job, sure. Make me a critic or something. Or a grip, I really don't care. Anything. I have to find something new to do with my life before I go nuts.

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Old 12-03-13 | 01:58 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "Dead Weight" -- 11/24/13

Sorry for the bump, but I'm behind on these due to the holidays. Can somebody explain the zombies in the quicksand and why it forced "Brian" and company to return to the camp. Either that wasn't explained well or I missed something.
Old 12-03-13 | 02:12 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "Dead Weight" -- 11/24/13

I think it was sort of followed up in the next episode. I don't know if this is a spoiler or not, but I'll put it in anyway:

Spoiler:
There had been flooding in the area, I would assume the zombies just got stuck in the mud during a flash flood


I'd assume the road was completely covered and he figured he couldn't get through the thick mud without getting stuck.
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "Dead Weight" -- 11/24/13

Yeah there is only one road in the entire state which made it impossible to go around.
Old 12-03-13 | 03:15 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "Dead Weight" -- 11/24/13

Apparently, Martinez built his camp at the site of the Evil Dead cabin.
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Anyone who's been stuck in the mud in Alabama Georgia knows, you step on the gas, one tire spins, the other tire does nothing.

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