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Old 11-23-14, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by PhantomStranger
Magic Cook needs a better front person to help sell it, which is why I think Daymond invested in it.
I'm pretty sure he was interested because, if the product fails, he liked that the woman had an intuitive understanding of Chinese manufacturing. He also said something about it when he made his offer.
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So in other words, it's the go-to porn POV camera?
It is, actually. There is a niche site that does nothing but GoPro POV porn. The one I know switches between female and male views. I don't like them. But the video is very high quality.
Old 11-23-14, 12:15 PM
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I don't see the appeal of using the Magic Cook. Once you get beyond the "it's neat" factor, you start to realize how impractical the product really is.
Yea. Easy outdoor meals is the only thing I could think of. Even then, I'd rather eat some veggies and jerky than screw with steaming vegetables and whatever.
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Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
Kinda bummed the Off the Cob guy didn't get an offer. It's a really unique concept and really shone a light on the tortilla market. That was some interesting stuff.

O'Leary was a total douche to the Kitchen Safe guy. I don't see a need for it, but if there is any truth to his testimonials, then there is a real market for such a device. My question, which wasn't discussed, is what happens when the battery dies? What if the battery dies while locked? $50 for a single container though is absurd.
I got the impression from the shark's faces and what Kevin said that the chip's taste didn't really justify the huge difference in cost. Plus, there is a new organic, baked, fat free, sugar free, gluten free, gmo free, taste free chip put on the market every day. And then they disappear to the next chemical laden Doritos wacky flavor of the month chip. Rinse and repeat.

And I agree about O'Leary being way to harsh to the safe guys. But they are dreaming if they think that product will sell gangbusters at $50 bucks a pop. 10 bucks maybe but 50? Hell, they said they would be lucky to get the manufacturing cost down to $10. Price is their death knell.

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I was thinking that the entire episode. For the price of investing in one business, he got massive free exposure for GoPro. I liked the song-and-dance over QVC versus HSN. If this show really wanted to pit sharks, get a HSN person to go up against Lori.

I've never minded Mr. Wonderful's blunt talk, but this season feels like he's just being mean for the sake of it.
Screw the GoPro guy. He seemed there just to say the words GoPro. He was annoying and seemed like he annoyed the hell out of Cuban (which I have to admit I enjoyed).

I LOVE the idea of having an HSN person square off on the show. Awesome idea. And I totally agree with you last comment. Seems if you catch O'Leary or Cuban on a bad day, they just become ranting assholes.
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I imagine they are encouraged to go on the occasional rant by Shark Tank's producers. There are entire categories of products that Cuban seems to hate with a passion.
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With the Kitchen Safe and the 'no override' statement, all I could keep picturing is a sitcom-like scene where a toddler puts his dad's wallet or phone in the safe (or maybe tickets to some pricey event) and sets it for 2 days just screwing around pressing buttons.
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at that wine valuation. And $2.99 per serving. Has to be $1/serving or less like a case of beer.

Kevin was completely right about Costco.
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Kevin only does that deal if he already has a connection with Costco's buyers. He's going to make a killing if Costco carries it.
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Originally Posted by Red Dog
at that wine valuation. And $2.99 per serving. Has to be $1/serving or less like a case of beer.

Kevin was completely right about Costco.
I really don't agree. Individual energy drinks, coffee drinks, etc in a bottle all cost more than $1.50. I think $3 is about right.
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I didn't think $3 was terrible either. You can get a 12 pack of soda for $3-$5 but 20oz bottles sell for $1.50-$2 just fine.

Also $3 allows you to try different wines on the cheap vs. buying a bottle and hating it.
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I really don't agree. Individual energy drinks, coffee drinks, etc in a bottle all cost more than $1.50. I think $3 is about right.
I think it's stupid. Why buy that at a 7-11 when you can buy a bottle at 9.99.

You can't compare it to coffee or energy drinks. Compare it to beer. And you're buying that by the case - like beer. I guess there are some brown baggers (whinos are buying Mad Dog, like Cuban alluded to) but I don't see them buying these. It's a perfect Costco product.

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Kevin only does that deal if he already has a connection with Costco's buyers. He's going to make a killing if Costco carries it.
Yup. He couldn't get in there in his own, so this is his hook. This would be an ideal product for sports arenas and airplanes.
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Mark got a good deal with the female sports apparel. Once he gets an NBA license and can sell Mavs female oriented clothes at Mavs home games and the gift shop, he's going to make a killing on them. And that's in addition to the college licensed clothes and more schools that could be added. His Mavs gift shop can also sell Texas oriented schools as well like Baylor, UT-Austin etc.
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Mark got a good deal with the female sports apparel. Once he gets an NBA license and can sell Mavs female oriented clothes at Mavs home games and the gift shop, he's going to make a killing on them. And that's in addition to the college licensed clothes and more schools that could be added. His Mavs gift shop can also sell Texas oriented schools as well like Baylor, UT-Austin etc.
I thought the same. If he can bring on the NBA as a whole, they're set. Plus, just his name attached to it will make it WAY easier for them to get licenses for colleges.
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Cuban was definitely the right partner for the athletic wear, although the wise-ass in me really wishes that when they heard his contingency, one of them had the presence of mind to say something like "Mark, I can't make you Mavs clothes if we don't have the license. Do you have any contacts in that organization?"
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Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
O'Leary was a total douche to the Kitchen Safe guy. I don't see a need for it, but if there is any truth to his testimonials, then there is a real market for such a device. My question, which wasn't discussed, is what happens when the battery dies? What if the battery dies while locked? $50 for a single container though is absurd.
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And I agree about O'Leary being way to harsh to the safe guys. But they are dreaming if they think that product will sell gangbusters at $50 bucks a pop. 10 bucks maybe but 50? Hell, they said they would be lucky to get the manufacturing cost down to $10. Price is their death knell.
I just got a chance yesterday to catch up on a few episodes. I think the safe is a great idea. It's something that anyone that has tried to lose weight would love to have. I can also see how parents would use it for their kids. There is definitely a big market for an item that can help people develop some will power.

They need to big time marketing shift though that shows off how multi purpose the thing can be. They also need to get that price down about 50%, something I'm sure the Sharks will be able to help with.
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I think it's stupid. Why buy that at a 7-11 when you can buy a bottle at 9.99.
For the same reason I put $1.25 in a vending machine to get a soda, when I can get a 2-liter bottle for $2.
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Exactly.

What I can't get over ... is how appealing a disposable wine cup will be to the consumer. Maybe I'm too up my own ass about how wine should be enjoyed.
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Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
O'Leary was a total douche to the Kitchen Safe guy. I don't see a need for it, but if there is any truth to his testimonials, then there is a real market for such a device. My question, which wasn't discussed, is what happens when the battery dies? What if the battery dies while locked? $50 for a single container though is absurd.
In case anyone is wondering about this...
Last year, I went on a business trip to Mexico. There was a safe in the closet, and the front had a key pad. The thing was powered by 4 AA batteries. I had to use it to lock up some personal items (tablet, passport, etc.). Well, after a single day, the battery in the safe died. In this particular case, the lock dis-engaged before the battery was fully drained, and instead of allowing any key presses on the pad, it just displayed "BATTLOW."

Point is... I'm sure the Kitchen Safe works exactly the same way.

Also $3 allows you to try different wines on the cheap vs. buying a bottle and hating it.
I missed this episode... what is this wine stuff all about? Was it the same guy selling single-serving wine a few years ago?

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Just started watching this season buy the sharks alluded to a different guy selling single serve wine before. The new guy had a proprietary lid that made it unique as well as a fancy label and super durable plastic.
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Ah okay. Sounds like the new guy managed to work around the other guy's patent (from what I recall, it seemed like the original guy was the only one who could do it at the time), so of course the sharks would jump on a competing product. They REALLY hated the original guy. He came back a second time, pretty much just to gloat.
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He didn't work around it. He went to the actual patent holder, someone in France, and basically learned the original guy was just licensing it from him.
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That's even better! He daggered that shit!
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For the same reason I put $1.25 in a vending machine to get a soda, when I can get a 2-liter bottle for $2.
You're buying a cold soda out of a vending machine for convenience. Who does that with wine except for the whinos who buy Mad Dog at 7-11. Again, you should not compare this to soda/water/energy drinks. Compare it to beer. This is something that will be sold by the case (or multi-pack). Or I can see it in hotel mini-bars, sports venues (particularly since it's plastic), and on airplanes (who obviously are buying it by the case).

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The single-serve wine offerings are for public events and business occasions. It's more for the corporate buyer than individuals.


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