Go Back  DVD Talk Forum > Entertainment Discussions > TV Talk
Reload this Page >

The Walking Dead -- "Prey" -- 3/17/13

Community
Search
TV Talk Talk about Shows on TV

The Walking Dead -- "Prey" -- 3/17/13

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 03-19-13 | 03:42 PM
  #151  
DVD Talk Limited Edition
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 6,410
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
From: New York
Re: The Walking Dead -- "Prey" -- 3/17/13

Originally Posted by slop101
even sitcoms like Seinfeld have something to say)
No-oo, silly-dilly, Seinfeld was a show about nothing!
Old 03-19-13 | 03:43 PM
  #152  
DVD Talk Limited Edition
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 6,410
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
From: New York
Re: The Walking Dead -- "Prey" -- 3/17/13

Originally Posted by slop101
And I'm fine if a show has very little depth, but in lacking depth, it should at least be fun and not take itself so goddamn seriously like this show does.
Survival is a gosh-darn serious business, mister! How dare you!
Old 03-19-13 | 03:46 PM
  #153  
argh923's Avatar
DVD Talk Limited Edition
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 6,341
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: Muncie, IN [Member formerly known as abrg923]
Re: The Walking Dead -- "Prey" -- 3/17/13

Originally Posted by slop101
And yet most good shows are like this (Mad Men, Justified, Breaking Bad, Game of Thrones, even sitcoms like Seinfeld have something to say), or at least allow you to do the digging on your own, even if it's unintended. Walking Dead just can't work like that. I guess my frustration is that there's noting smart about this show. Not that it's always dumb, just that it's never smart.

And I'm fine if a show has very little depth, but in lacking depth, it should at least be fun and not take itself so goddamn seriously like this show does.

Also, what's the end game? I really don't see this show ending in any satisfying way whatsoever.
But these are not "plot holes" or "inconsistencies" in the show...just your problem with what the show is, or your interpretation of what it is.
Old 03-19-13 | 03:48 PM
  #154  
DVD Talk Limited Edition
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 6,410
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
From: New York
Re: The Walking Dead -- "Prey" -- 3/17/13

Originally Posted by slop101
Also, what's the end game? I really don't see this show ending in any satisfying way whatsoever.
That's what we have to wait and find out. Frankly, I don't see this show ending in a satisfactory way for the "good guys," because, well, it's a bleak and horrid existence. No way it should end in a satisfactory way - like Will Smith at the end of I Am Legend.

It's gotta suck real bad for Carl. You tell a child he's not allowed to let down his guard, can't play with other children, deprived of a childhood...just bad news.
Old 03-19-13 | 04:42 PM
  #155  
hanshotfirst1138's Avatar
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 9,678
Likes: 0
Received 7 Likes on 7 Posts
From: Livonia MI
Re: The Walking Dead -- "Prey" -- 3/17/13

I think the governor might be thinking of filming Saw VIII or Hostel IV next week...

Originally Posted by Buttmunker
Survival is a gosh-darn serious business, mister! How dare you!
Yeah, I mean this show does deal with pretty dark subject matter.

Originally Posted by slop101
Also, what's the end game? I really don't see this show ending in any satisfying way whatsoever.
I don't know if Kirkman has an endpoint plotted out for the comics either. To be honest, in both cases, I think it'll continue as long as the money flows in. How long the money flowing will correlate with the creative quality of any work of art is obviously up to individual interpretation. But I'm enjoying the show OK so far, it takes so long for them to get episodes in the can that it doesn't seem too oversaturated yet.

Originally Posted by Buttmunker
That's what we have to wait and find out. Frankly, I don't see this show ending in a satisfactory way for the "good guys," because, well, it's a bleak and horrid existence. No way it should end in a satisfactory way - like Will Smith at the end of I Am Legend.
Then what's the point though? I'm not saying that it has to end happily with roses and magic, but if all something is about is continuing, grueling survival, to steal an example I once read somewhere, wouldn't that be like watching the opening of Saving Private Ryan over and over for hours? I mean, it might make for a powerful statement about violence or against war, but it probably wouldn't make for good drama. The sow has to eventually go somewhere. Though realistically, you may be right, but if that's the case, I'd have to wonder why anyone would keep going.
Old 03-19-13 | 05:20 PM
  #156  
dhmac's Avatar
DVD Talk Limited Edition
 
Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 7,422
Received 68 Likes on 59 Posts
From: Kissimmee, Florida
Re: The Walking Dead -- "Prey" -- 3/17/13

Originally Posted by fumanstan
Yeah, I didn't get the point of that flashback. I thought it would have been more interesting to have Michonne give some back story and maybe show a stronger relationship between Andrea and her, but it was the same stupid stuff we saw when she was first introduced.
Yeah, although I liked the rest of the episode, that flashback didn't add much to the episode or to the show.

Although I'm sure that I'm in the minority on this, but I would actually like to see some flashbacks on the show that are to things before the zombie apocalypse started. I know that would be a lot like LOST, but I think a few here and there would really help fill in some of the characters depth-wise, to know what they were like before the world went to hell.
Old 03-19-13 | 05:31 PM
  #157  
fumanstan's Avatar
DVD Talk Godfather
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 55,349
Received 27 Likes on 15 Posts
From: Irvine, CA
Re: The Walking Dead -- "Prey" -- 3/17/13

Originally Posted by dhmac
Yeah, although I liked the rest of the episode, that flashback didn't add much to the episode or to the show.

Although I'm sure that I'm in the minority on this, but I would actually like to see some flashbacks on the show that are to things before the zombie apocalypse started. I know that would be a lot like LOST, but I think a few here and there would really help fill in some of the characters depth-wise, to know what they were like before the world went to hell.
Yeah, they have had a few of those before that have been nice, like flashbacks to Lori and Shane.
Old 03-19-13 | 07:49 PM
  #158  
DVD Talk Legend
 
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 19,472
Received 1,521 Likes on 1,019 Posts
From: Hamilton, Ontario
Re: The Walking Dead -- "Prey" -- 3/17/13

Crappy episode. Nothing much was accomplished... it ended not much different than it started except Andrea is tied up and the Gov. doesn't trust Milton. Those are things that could've been achieved while other things happened, instead of being the only thing that happened during a filler show.

I would normally have had no problem with them killing off Andrea, but I'd be pissed if she's killed off coming so close to the prison since it was essentially the majority of the episode.

Too many episodes this season where we see only the prison or only Mayberry... or only a few characters from the prison. They feel too much like bottle episodes - and to have this many that felt like it is not good.
Old 03-19-13 | 09:07 PM
  #159  
sracer's Avatar
DVD Talk Legend
 
Joined: Feb 2000
Posts: 15,380
Received 60 Likes on 38 Posts
From: Prescott Valley, AZ
Re: The Walking Dead -- "Prey" -- 3/17/13

Originally Posted by hanshotfirst113
I don't know if Kirkman has an endpoint plotted out for the comics either. To be honest, in both cases, I think it'll continue as long as the money flows in. How long the money flowing will correlate with the creative quality of any work of art is obviously up to individual interpretation. But I'm enjoying the show OK so far, it takes so long for them to get episodes in the can that it doesn't seem too oversaturated yet.

Then what's the point though? I'm not saying that it has to end happily with roses and magic, but if all something is about is continuing, grueling survival, to steal an example I once read somewhere, wouldn't that be like watching the opening of Saving Private Ryan over and over for hours? I mean, it might make for a powerful statement about violence or against war, but it probably wouldn't make for good drama. The sow has to eventually go somewhere. Though realistically, you may be right, but if that's the case, I'd have to wonder why anyone would keep going.
I love the show... over time I've come to appreciate the slowness of season 2, but generally speaking, there's a repeating pattern...

The new character (CDC Dr. Jenner, Hershel ,Governor) isn't what he seems at first glance. Even in Vatos, they flipped the script and had the Latino thugs end up being nursing home caregivers.

Season 1 appeared to have a "cinematic pacing" whereas subsequent seasons seemed to settle in to a traditional "episodic pacing".
Old 03-19-13 | 10:49 PM
  #160  
Josh-da-man's Avatar
DVD Talk Hero
 
Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 49,442
Received 4,481 Likes on 2,949 Posts
From: The Bible Belt
Re: The Walking Dead -- "Prey" -- 3/17/13

Originally Posted by Lastblade
I am guessing Milton will save Andrea (after Gov had his fun).
In the comics, The Governor made a human centipede out of Merle, Michonne, and Andrea. He planned to add all of the other prison group onto it, but Milton freed the three before he could complete it. It was really gross... Merle was the head of the centipede and the Governor fed him nothing but the last known Taco Bell food left in the world.
Old 03-20-13 | 12:26 AM
  #161  
Suspended
 
Joined: Jan 2000
Posts: 31,779
Received 101 Likes on 87 Posts
From: Formerly known as "GizmoDVD"/Southern CA
Re: The Walking Dead -- "Prey" -- 3/17/13

Originally Posted by argh923
Actually, they are. Again - show me something that can't be easily explained.
Are you Chris Hardwick?
Old 03-20-13 | 07:51 AM
  #162  
DVD Talk Gold Edition
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 2,669
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Re: The Walking Dead -- "Prey" -- 3/17/13

Originally Posted by Josh-da-man
In the comics, The Governor made a human centipede out of Merle, Michonne, and Andrea. He planned to add all of the other prison group onto it, but Milton freed the three before he could complete it. It was really gross... Merle was the head of the centipede and the Governor fed him nothing but the last known Taco Bell food left in the world.
I would watch it if Andrea is the tail.
Old 03-20-13 | 07:55 AM
  #163  
DVD Talk Limited Edition
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 6,410
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
From: New York
Re: The Walking Dead -- "Prey" -- 3/17/13

Originally Posted by Josh-da-man
In the comics, The Governor made a human centipede out of Merle, Michonne, and Andrea. He planned to add all of the other prison group onto it, but Milton freed the three before he could complete it. It was really gross... Merle was the head of the centipede and the Governor fed him nothing but the last known Taco Bell food left in the world.
Therein lies the difference between comic books and television. How in hell do you keep parts of human beings alive if you cut them up into pieces? Unless, of course, you kill them first, let them turn, then "melt" them together by fire, like what happened to those Biters in the pit-fire.

But that would be so farcical, as to make you laugh. [Tom Hanks]There's no laughing in the Zombie Apocaplyse![/Tom Hanks]
Old 03-20-13 | 08:20 AM
  #164  
argh923's Avatar
DVD Talk Limited Edition
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 6,341
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: Muncie, IN [Member formerly known as abrg923]
Re: The Walking Dead -- "Prey" -- 3/17/13

Originally Posted by GizmoDVD
Are you Chris Hardwick?
Are you going to add anything useful to the conversation, or are you just going to keep trolling?
Old 03-20-13 | 08:22 AM
  #165  
DVD Talk Limited Edition
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 6,410
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
From: New York
Re: The Walking Dead -- "Prey" -- 3/17/13

Originally Posted by argh923
Are you going to add anything useful to the conversation, or are you just going to keep trolling?
Don't answer that, Gizmo! It's one of them dad-gum rhetorical questions!
Old 03-20-13 | 08:40 AM
  #166  
DVD Talk Legend
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 16,430
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 4 Posts
From: Puyallup
Re: The Walking Dead -- "Prey" -- 3/17/13

Originally Posted by Buttmunker
That's what we have to wait and find out. Frankly, I don't see this show ending in a satisfactory way for the "good guys," because, well, it's a bleak and horrid existence. No way it should end in a satisfactory way - like Will Smith at the end of I Am Legend.

It's gotta suck real bad for Carl. You tell a child he's not allowed to let down his guard, can't play with other children, deprived of a childhood...just bad news.
Maybe not a milk and honey ending, but it better at least be bittersweet.
Old 03-20-13 | 08:42 AM
  #167  
Troy Stiffler's Avatar
DVD Talk Hero
 
Joined: Nov 1999
Posts: 27,555
Received 608 Likes on 430 Posts
From: Under an I-10 Overpass
Re: The Walking Dead -- "Prey" -- 3/17/13

I have to start bailing on these Walking Dead threads after page 2.
Old 03-20-13 | 08:43 AM
  #168  
DVD Talk Legend
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 16,430
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 4 Posts
From: Puyallup
Re: The Walking Dead -- "Prey" -- 3/17/13

Originally Posted by hanshotfirst113


Then what's the point though? I'm not saying that it has to end happily with roses and magic, but if all something is about is continuing, grueling survival, to steal an example I once read somewhere, wouldn't that be like watching the opening of Saving Private Ryan over and over for hours? I mean, it might make for a powerful statement about violence or against war, but it probably wouldn't make for good drama. The sow has to eventually go somewhere. Though realistically, you may be right, but if that's the case, I'd have to wonder why anyone would keep going.
Totally agree. We don't mind horrible things happening to the people we like, but eventually we would like to see some sort of positive outcome for the characters that we have followed.
Old 03-20-13 | 08:43 AM
  #169  
argh923's Avatar
DVD Talk Limited Edition
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 6,341
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: Muncie, IN [Member formerly known as abrg923]
Re: The Walking Dead -- "Prey" -- 3/17/13

Originally Posted by Buttmunker
Don't answer that, Gizmo! It's one of them dad-gum rhetorical questions!
Old 03-20-13 | 09:09 AM
  #170  
Suspended
 
Joined: Jan 2000
Posts: 31,779
Received 101 Likes on 87 Posts
From: Formerly known as "GizmoDVD"/Southern CA
Re: The Walking Dead -- "Prey" -- 3/17/13

Originally Posted by argh923
Are you going to add anything useful to the conversation, or are you just going to keep trolling?
Are you going to stop trying to explain away every plot hole with this show? It's poor writing.

You seem to not want to allow anyway to have any issues with the show/episode. It's just getting sad now. Plenty of people are posting in this thread how poor the writing is, how things don't make sense and here comes Chris Hardwick to defend it.
Old 03-20-13 | 09:15 AM
  #171  
DVD Talk Ultimate Edition
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 4,950
Received 70 Likes on 51 Posts
Re: The Walking Dead -- "Prey" -- 3/17/13

Originally Posted by Buttmunker
Therein lies the difference between comic books and television. How in hell do you keep parts of human beings alive if you cut them up into pieces?
Someone needs to google "Human Centipede"... How can you be on DVDTalk and not know this?
Old 03-20-13 | 09:21 AM
  #172  
argh923's Avatar
DVD Talk Limited Edition
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 6,341
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: Muncie, IN [Member formerly known as abrg923]
Re: The Walking Dead -- "Prey" -- 3/17/13

Originally Posted by GizmoDVD
Are you going to stop trying to explain away every plot hole with this show? It's poor writing.

You seem to not want to allow anyway to have any issues with the show/episode. It's just getting sad now. Plenty of people are posting in this thread how poor the writing is, how things don't make sense and here comes Chris Hardwick to defend it.
I've asked people to state the things that "don't make sense". I've heard one, which I explained. It's not poor writing, it's people not sitting down and actually thinking about the show. It's not poor writing at all.

Again, show me the "plot holes".

If people have issues with the show for what it is, that's fine. But people are complaining about "plot holes" that are easily explained.

Now, an example of a valid complaint? The fact that every person on the show is an expert with a gun, and always can get clean headshots. That = valid complaint. Wondering how the Governor gets ahead of Andrea when a.) she's clearly exhausted and winded and b.) HE HAS A VEHICLE does not = valid complaint.
Old 03-20-13 | 09:25 AM
  #173  
Suspended
 
Joined: Jan 2000
Posts: 31,779
Received 101 Likes on 87 Posts
From: Formerly known as "GizmoDVD"/Southern CA
Re: The Walking Dead -- "Prey" -- 3/17/13

Originally Posted by argh923
I've asked people to state the things that "don't make sense". I've heard one, which I explained. It's not poor writing, it's people not sitting down and actually thinking about the show. It's not poor writing at all.

Again, show me the "plot holes".

If people have issues with the show for what it is, that's fine. But people are complaining about "plot holes" that are easily explained.

Now, an example of a valid complaint? The fact that every person on the show is an expert with a gun, and always can get clean headshots. That = valid complaint. Wondering how the Governor gets ahead of Andrea when a.) she's clearly exhausted and winded and b.) HE HAS A VEHICLE does not = valid complaint.
No point. You would defend anything that silly shows throws at you.
Old 03-20-13 | 09:29 AM
  #174  
DVD Talk Legend
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 16,430
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 4 Posts
From: Puyallup
Re: The Walking Dead -- "Prey" -- 3/17/13

Old 03-20-13 | 09:42 AM
  #175  
argh923's Avatar
DVD Talk Limited Edition
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 6,341
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: Muncie, IN [Member formerly known as abrg923]
Re: The Walking Dead -- "Prey" -- 3/17/13

Originally Posted by GizmoDVD
No point. You would defend anything that silly shows throws at you.
If it's logical, yep. I won't defend things that can't be explained.


Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.