The Walking Dead -- "Prey" -- 3/17/13
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "Prey" -- 3/17/13
And yet most good shows are like this (Mad Men, Justified, Breaking Bad, Game of Thrones, even sitcoms like Seinfeld have something to say), or at least allow you to do the digging on your own, even if it's unintended. Walking Dead just can't work like that. I guess my frustration is that there's noting smart about this show. Not that it's always dumb, just that it's never smart.
And I'm fine if a show has very little depth, but in lacking depth, it should at least be fun and not take itself so goddamn seriously like this show does.
Also, what's the end game? I really don't see this show ending in any satisfying way whatsoever.
And I'm fine if a show has very little depth, but in lacking depth, it should at least be fun and not take itself so goddamn seriously like this show does.
Also, what's the end game? I really don't see this show ending in any satisfying way whatsoever.
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It's gotta suck real bad for Carl. You tell a child he's not allowed to let down his guard, can't play with other children, deprived of a childhood...just bad news.
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "Prey" -- 3/17/13
I think the governor might be thinking of filming Saw VIII or Hostel IV next week...
Yeah, I mean this show does deal with pretty dark subject matter.
I don't know if Kirkman has an endpoint plotted out for the comics either. To be honest, in both cases, I think it'll continue as long as the money flows in. How long the money flowing will correlate with the creative quality of any work of art is obviously up to individual interpretation. But I'm enjoying the show OK so far, it takes so long for them to get episodes in the can that it doesn't seem too oversaturated yet.
Then what's the point though? I'm not saying that it has to end happily with roses and magic, but if all something is about is continuing, grueling survival, to steal an example I once read somewhere, wouldn't that be like watching the opening of Saving Private Ryan over and over for hours? I mean, it might make for a powerful statement about violence or against war, but it probably wouldn't make for good drama. The sow has to eventually go somewhere. Though realistically, you may be right, but if that's the case, I'd have to wonder why anyone would keep going.
Yeah, I mean this show does deal with pretty dark subject matter.
Then what's the point though? I'm not saying that it has to end happily with roses and magic, but if all something is about is continuing, grueling survival, to steal an example I once read somewhere, wouldn't that be like watching the opening of Saving Private Ryan over and over for hours? I mean, it might make for a powerful statement about violence or against war, but it probably wouldn't make for good drama. The sow has to eventually go somewhere. Though realistically, you may be right, but if that's the case, I'd have to wonder why anyone would keep going.
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "Prey" -- 3/17/13
Although I'm sure that I'm in the minority on this, but I would actually like to see some flashbacks on the show that are to things before the zombie apocalypse started. I know that would be a lot like LOST, but I think a few here and there would really help fill in some of the characters depth-wise, to know what they were like before the world went to hell.
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Yeah, although I liked the rest of the episode, that flashback didn't add much to the episode or to the show.
Although I'm sure that I'm in the minority on this, but I would actually like to see some flashbacks on the show that are to things before the zombie apocalypse started. I know that would be a lot like LOST, but I think a few here and there would really help fill in some of the characters depth-wise, to know what they were like before the world went to hell.
Although I'm sure that I'm in the minority on this, but I would actually like to see some flashbacks on the show that are to things before the zombie apocalypse started. I know that would be a lot like LOST, but I think a few here and there would really help fill in some of the characters depth-wise, to know what they were like before the world went to hell.
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Crappy episode. Nothing much was accomplished... it ended not much different than it started except Andrea is tied up and the Gov. doesn't trust Milton. Those are things that could've been achieved while other things happened, instead of being the only thing that happened during a filler show.
I would normally have had no problem with them killing off Andrea, but I'd be pissed if she's killed off coming so close to the prison since it was essentially the majority of the episode.
Too many episodes this season where we see only the prison or only Mayberry... or only a few characters from the prison. They feel too much like bottle episodes - and to have this many that felt like it is not good.
I would normally have had no problem with them killing off Andrea, but I'd be pissed if she's killed off coming so close to the prison since it was essentially the majority of the episode.
Too many episodes this season where we see only the prison or only Mayberry... or only a few characters from the prison. They feel too much like bottle episodes - and to have this many that felt like it is not good.
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I don't know if Kirkman has an endpoint plotted out for the comics either. To be honest, in both cases, I think it'll continue as long as the money flows in. How long the money flowing will correlate with the creative quality of any work of art is obviously up to individual interpretation. But I'm enjoying the show OK so far, it takes so long for them to get episodes in the can that it doesn't seem too oversaturated yet.
Then what's the point though? I'm not saying that it has to end happily with roses and magic, but if all something is about is continuing, grueling survival, to steal an example I once read somewhere, wouldn't that be like watching the opening of Saving Private Ryan over and over for hours? I mean, it might make for a powerful statement about violence or against war, but it probably wouldn't make for good drama. The sow has to eventually go somewhere. Though realistically, you may be right, but if that's the case, I'd have to wonder why anyone would keep going.
Then what's the point though? I'm not saying that it has to end happily with roses and magic, but if all something is about is continuing, grueling survival, to steal an example I once read somewhere, wouldn't that be like watching the opening of Saving Private Ryan over and over for hours? I mean, it might make for a powerful statement about violence or against war, but it probably wouldn't make for good drama. The sow has to eventually go somewhere. Though realistically, you may be right, but if that's the case, I'd have to wonder why anyone would keep going.
The new character (CDC Dr. Jenner, Hershel ,Governor) isn't what he seems at first glance. Even in Vatos, they flipped the script and had the Latino thugs end up being nursing home caregivers.
Season 1 appeared to have a "cinematic pacing" whereas subsequent seasons seemed to settle in to a traditional "episodic pacing".
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "Prey" -- 3/17/13
In the comics, The Governor made a human centipede out of Merle, Michonne, and Andrea. He planned to add all of the other prison group onto it, but Milton freed the three before he could complete it. It was really gross... Merle was the head of the centipede and the Governor fed him nothing but the last known Taco Bell food left in the world.
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In the comics, The Governor made a human centipede out of Merle, Michonne, and Andrea. He planned to add all of the other prison group onto it, but Milton freed the three before he could complete it. It was really gross... Merle was the head of the centipede and the Governor fed him nothing but the last known Taco Bell food left in the world.
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In the comics, The Governor made a human centipede out of Merle, Michonne, and Andrea. He planned to add all of the other prison group onto it, but Milton freed the three before he could complete it. It was really gross... Merle was the head of the centipede and the Governor fed him nothing but the last known Taco Bell food left in the world.
But that would be so farcical, as to make you laugh. [Tom Hanks]There's no laughing in the Zombie Apocaplyse![/Tom Hanks]
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That's what we have to wait and find out. Frankly, I don't see this show ending in a satisfactory way for the "good guys," because, well, it's a bleak and horrid existence. No way it should end in a satisfactory way - like Will Smith at the end of I Am Legend.
It's gotta suck real bad for Carl. You tell a child he's not allowed to let down his guard, can't play with other children, deprived of a childhood...just bad news.
It's gotta suck real bad for Carl. You tell a child he's not allowed to let down his guard, can't play with other children, deprived of a childhood...just bad news.
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Then what's the point though? I'm not saying that it has to end happily with roses and magic, but if all something is about is continuing, grueling survival, to steal an example I once read somewhere, wouldn't that be like watching the opening of Saving Private Ryan over and over for hours? I mean, it might make for a powerful statement about violence or against war, but it probably wouldn't make for good drama. The sow has to eventually go somewhere. Though realistically, you may be right, but if that's the case, I'd have to wonder why anyone would keep going.
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You seem to not want to allow anyway to have any issues with the show/episode. It's just getting sad now. Plenty of people are posting in this thread how poor the writing is, how things don't make sense and here comes Chris Hardwick to defend it.
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "Prey" -- 3/17/13
Are you going to stop trying to explain away every plot hole with this show? It's poor writing.
You seem to not want to allow anyway to have any issues with the show/episode. It's just getting sad now. Plenty of people are posting in this thread how poor the writing is, how things don't make sense and here comes Chris Hardwick to defend it.
You seem to not want to allow anyway to have any issues with the show/episode. It's just getting sad now. Plenty of people are posting in this thread how poor the writing is, how things don't make sense and here comes Chris Hardwick to defend it.
Again, show me the "plot holes".
If people have issues with the show for what it is, that's fine. But people are complaining about "plot holes" that are easily explained.
Now, an example of a valid complaint? The fact that every person on the show is an expert with a gun, and always can get clean headshots. That = valid complaint. Wondering how the Governor gets ahead of Andrea when a.) she's clearly exhausted and winded and b.) HE HAS A VEHICLE does not = valid complaint.
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I've asked people to state the things that "don't make sense". I've heard one, which I explained. It's not poor writing, it's people not sitting down and actually thinking about the show. It's not poor writing at all.
Again, show me the "plot holes".
If people have issues with the show for what it is, that's fine. But people are complaining about "plot holes" that are easily explained.
Now, an example of a valid complaint? The fact that every person on the show is an expert with a gun, and always can get clean headshots. That = valid complaint. Wondering how the Governor gets ahead of Andrea when a.) she's clearly exhausted and winded and b.) HE HAS A VEHICLE does not = valid complaint.
Again, show me the "plot holes".
If people have issues with the show for what it is, that's fine. But people are complaining about "plot holes" that are easily explained.
Now, an example of a valid complaint? The fact that every person on the show is an expert with a gun, and always can get clean headshots. That = valid complaint. Wondering how the Governor gets ahead of Andrea when a.) she's clearly exhausted and winded and b.) HE HAS A VEHICLE does not = valid complaint.
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