Every week I watch TWD and then want to discuss it here but the constant nitpicking and bitching makes it hard sometimes. Every episode. I;m in the camp that really liked this episode. Great scenes with both camps getting acquainted with each other and Glen getting out of (and into) his funk.

The one thing that I do question is why Rick hasn't picked Merle's brain about the Guv. He was his right hand man; he knows how he thinks. Run the Governor's deal past him and see what he thinks. He knows the layout of Woodbury and the situation with weapons and their "army". Maybe its something that will happen in the coming episodes (or maybe happened offscreen) but damn if Merle isn't a well of info at this point.

I didn't mind this episode at all. Didn't hate it, didn't love it, but it moved the story along with some nice tension. It's funny about all the negativity, since prior to the mid-season break it seemed everyone was raving about Season 3.

Clearly, you're not paying attention.

didnt want to give names... wanted it to be left for the show to tell...

I think the only major thing that has been illogical is the lack of communication between characters. But, it isn't outside the realm of possibility that people could be really bad at explaining themselves and their situations.

Finally got around to watching this. Thought it was pretty good (better than the last couple). Dug the slow burn aspect and thought it set the stage for the remainder of the season. Agree that the second half of this season isn't as strong as the first -- though still time to redeem itself.

Some people need to just pay more attention. I thought it was painfully obvious as well. There's no way he draws that gun before Rick gets a shot off. And there is no pivoting. Picture a gun duct taped to a wall. Now pivot it 90 degrees toward the wall. It ain't happenin'.

He would have a better chance going for the one in his holster hanging on the support beam.

I thought about that but Merle has already given his opinion of what the gov plans to do. Kill them all in a specific order.

Andrea told the Gov what happened with Shane which will probably result in Rick not trusting her at all. I can;t see Merle volunteering any information on what he did for the gov as it would only lead people to mistrust him more.

Wrong.

And you know how?

I never believe people who claim to know spoilers but won't tell them...always just seems pretentious.

Good thing we've got so much invested in that character, especially after the episode "Clear".

See, I actually think that's the likely death...but what's your source?

Probably the comic book.

While the Governor/Woodbury story is unfolding differently in the television series than it did in the book, it still looks possible for the television series to "climax" the way it did in the comics, only with different characters involved.

I'm sort of looking for to fulfill a role that a minor Woodbury character had in the comic book series. It certainly looks like she's being set up for it.

For the record, here's how the Woodbury storyline ends in the comics:

Possibly the most hilarious post I've seen in awhile.

Let's not give reasons to back anything up, let's just give one word responses to back up an already ridiculous assertion that everything can be explained away. Yeah, that's what we should do.

You did the same thing. Unless I missed something and "Clearly you're not paying attention" suddenly became an indepth argument.

I liked this episode a lot. That is all I really care to say.

BUT WTF at some of the comments here...

I knew there would be some out there comments after this one.

It's not like the Gov was forced to have his hands "on the table" or in plain view. Sometimes, the Gov had his hands on his lap. And who said anything having to raise the gun above the table? While the Gov has his left hand on his lap, his right hand could grip the gun, rotate it "under the table" to face Rick, and fire under the table to take out Rick's groin area. All that could be done without Rick noticing. I'm sorry, but it could be done.

Clearly, you're not paying attention either.

It's no wonder so many of you think the show makes such sense!

I have seen the light! I'll just leave you tots to play in your sandbox.

If you really don't see the issues with the show then you certainly are not going to get it when people describe it and spell it out for you.

Guns do not rotate into solid objects. Let's attempt a thought experiment. Tape a gun to a wall. Try to rotate that towards the wall. Let me know if it works.

Trust. Or lack thereof.

See, I love this. "HEY, THERE'S SO MANY ISSUES WITH THE SHOW, BUT IF YOU DON'T SEE THEM YOU'RE JUST NOT PAYING ATTENTION!" Even though I've said repeatedly that they can be explained, and yet nobody has offered up any that haven't.

My vague, one-word response was due to the fact that you provided nothing other than "you aren't paying attention". Yes, I am. You didn't give any specific detail, so I'm not sure how I'm supposed to defend myself any further than that.

See, logical inconsistencies in the show! Instead of taping the gun to the table, why didn't he think to just set a machine gun ON the table?

Quit your nitpicking and bitching.

Quite frankly, I don't know why neither of them took a shot. Clearly, they don't trust each other or have any sincere plans on making peace with their enemy and taking out the opposing leader would give the other side the advantage. So we sort of got the My Dinner with Andre episode of The Walking Dead. They should have had a more interesting conversation to make it worth our while, or at least a shorter one.