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Josh-da-man 03-04-13 03:00 PM

Re: The Walking Dead - "Clear" -- 03/03/2013
 

Originally Posted by Groucho (Post 11600961)
No, I want it to be the raincoat wearing, knife brandishing variety. :eyebrow:

Groucho's identity is finally revealed.

He is George Lucas!

hanshotfirst1138 03-04-13 03:10 PM

Re: The Walking Dead - "Clear" -- 03/03/2013
 

Originally Posted by DJariya (Post 11601068)
At least AMC was smart enough not to credit Lennie James in this episode. Alot of surprise special guest stars have been ruined by the opening credits.

Yeah, but they gave it away in the "last time on AMC's The Walking Dead." Exactly why it has to continually be referred to as AMC's The Walking Dead as opposed to just The Walking Dead is a mystery to me.

fumanstan 03-04-13 03:28 PM

Re: The Walking Dead - "Clear" -- 03/03/2013
 

Originally Posted by hanshotfirst113 (Post 11601191)
Yeah, but they gave it away in the "last time on AMC's The Walking Dead." Exactly why it has to continually be referred to as AMC's The Walking Dead as opposed to just The Walking Dead is a mystery to me.

Yes, it's quite baffling. I can't think of any reason why AMC would want the most popular show on television to be labeled that way. At all.

DthRdrX 03-04-13 03:49 PM

Re: The Walking Dead - "Clear" -- 03/03/2013
 

Originally Posted by hanshotfirst113 (Post 11601191)
Yeah, but they gave it away in the "last time on AMC's The Walking Dead." Exactly why it has to continually be referred to as AMC's The Walking Dead as opposed to just The Walking Dead is a mystery to me.

"Morgan's back", is the first thing I thought when I saw Rick talking into the walkie. Still, this was a tremendously well put together episode that I thoroughly enjoyed. Looks like things ramp up considerably next week.

During the episode I was also questioning the drive to Rick's home.

At the end of S2 finale the prison is within walking distance of the group. I believe the S3 premiere takes place around 6 months later. Not only had they not found the prison yet but they seemed to be having a very tough time finding routes out of the area. Then they found the prison. How they would make it back to Rick's city in such short time is beyond me. Maybe the next episode will take place a week or so later?

hanshotfirst1138 03-04-13 04:20 PM

Re: The Walking Dead - "Clear" -- 03/03/2013
 

Originally Posted by fumanstan (Post 11601224)
Yes, it's quite baffling. I can't think of any reason why AMC would want the most popular show on television to be labeled that way. At all.

OK, let me rephrase that, I understand it, it's just annoying.

leeta 03-04-13 04:22 PM

Re: The Walking Dead - "Clear" -- 03/03/2013
 
I thought it was a great character development episode, as well as satisfying the "wonder what happened to Morgan" storyline. Yes, it was slower-paced, but filled with emotion, wonderful acting by Lennie James and it humanized Michonne, setting the stage for her to become a somewhat trusted member of the group.

Someone mentioned in an earlier post about the backpacker not being picked up. It was sad and I felt bad for him, but it just showed how they had evolved (or devolved) as survivors. Not helping out and then stopping to pick up possible resources from someone that was dead because they didn't help served to show how the apocalypse had totally changed everyone's sensibilities. They wouldn't have done that in the first season.

dino88 03-04-13 07:09 PM

Re: The Walking Dead - "Clear" -- 03/03/2013
 

Originally Posted by troystiffler (Post 11600483)
Did anyone bring up the zombie torture at the end yet? They drive by that dilapidated building, and you could see Morgan cutting open that zombie on the stretcher (which he left alive). Would make sense if he dumps the bodies there. But he left that zombie alive on the stretcher. And then he appears to be "working on" the zombie when they pass by.

Was that just Morgan being crazy, or is that going somewhere? Or did I not see it right?

The zombies he was piling on the stretcher weren't still "alive." He was just piling the corpses on there to move to the burn pile. They also didn't show him cutting a zombie open.

Joe Schmoe 03-04-13 07:17 PM

Re: The Walking Dead - "Clear" -- 03/03/2013
 
This episode felt like filler to me... a stall tactic on the writers' part to delay the inevitable battle between Rick and the Governor. If they had kept Morgan's fate a mystery until the series finale (or never addressed it at all), I would have been ok with it. I liked that Rick was his old self again, and I liked that Michonne had more to say and bonded with Carl, but I would have liked a few scenes with the prison gang rather than the whole show being dedicated to Rick's gun run.

JesseCuster 03-04-13 07:44 PM

Re: The Walking Dead - "Clear" -- 03/03/2013
 
A small note and not to overanalyse but I think they made the right decision with the hitchhiker. Who in this world is alone who doesn't want to be alone? There are obviously groups on the move in the area. He also seemed almost awesomely well equipped. Makes you think there's a reason he wasn't with others, whether it be some personality issue or worse yet, he survived by killing others he met and taking their supplies.

dino88 03-04-13 07:51 PM

Re: The Walking Dead - "Clear" -- 03/03/2013
 

Originally Posted by JesseCuster (Post 11601633)
A small note and not to overanalyse but I think they made the right decision with the hitchhiker. Who in this world is alone who doesn't want to be alone? There are obviously groups on the move in the area. He also seemed almost awesomely well equipped. Makes you think there's a reason he wasn't with others, whether it be some personality issue or worse yet, he survived by killing others he met and taking their supplies.

He could have had a group that was killed by walkers a few days earlier. The way he was chasing after the car tells me he didn't want to be alone. He could have been the nicest person in world and desperate to find more good people or he could have been a child molester. We'll never know (unless his bag is filled with kiddie porn).

Jason 03-04-13 08:04 PM

Re: The Walking Dead - "Clear" -- 03/03/2013
 

Originally Posted by Groucho (Post 11601089)
They have to be fairly far from Rick's home town, or he would have known about the prison.

I would think a county sheriff would know most if not all prisons in his state. There are 30 in Georgia. Has it ever been mentioned by name?


Originally Posted by DthRdrX (Post 11601259)
At the end of S2 finale the prison is within walking distance of the group. I believe the S3 premiere takes place around 6 months later. Not only had they not found the prison yet but they seemed to be having a very tough time finding routes out of the area. Then they found the prison.

I think the reveal at the end of S2 (which was very effective if you hadn't read the comics) wasn't supposed to be a literal representation of their position, but creative foreshadowing.

Jason 03-04-13 08:08 PM

Re: The Walking Dead - "Clear" -- 03/03/2013
 

Originally Posted by leeta (Post 11601330)
Someone mentioned in an earlier post about the backpacker not being picked up. It was sad and I felt bad for him, but it just showed how they had evolved (or devolved) as survivors. Not helping out and then stopping to pick up possible resources from someone that was dead because they didn't help served to show how the apocalypse had totally changed everyone's sensibilities. They wouldn't have done that in the first season.

Was the hitchhiker even real? Rick told Michonne he "sees things". He seemed to be the only one to even glance at him in the stuck car scene. Maybe they just saw the bag on the way there, and it triggered a hallucination in Rick's mind.

dino88 03-04-13 08:12 PM

Re: The Walking Dead - "Clear" -- 03/03/2013
 

Originally Posted by Jason (Post 11601655)
Was the hitchhiker even real? Rick told Michonne he "sees things". He seemed to be the only one to even glance at him in the stuck car scene. Maybe they just saw the bag on the way there, and it triggered a hallucination in Rick's mind.

Both Carl and Michonne looked at him as they were driving down the road and when he was running down the street later.

Jason 03-04-13 08:16 PM

Re: The Walking Dead - "Clear" -- 03/03/2013
 

Originally Posted by dino88 (Post 11601660)
Both Carl and Michonne looked at him as they were driving down the road and when he was running down the street later.

I thought they were just looking out the window. They didn't seem to really register his existence.

dino88 03-04-13 08:19 PM

Re: The Walking Dead - "Clear" -- 03/03/2013
 

Originally Posted by Jason (Post 11601664)
I thought they were just looking out the window. They didn't seem to really register his existence.

Watch it again. Michonne was the first one to look at him. Carl turned around in the car and watched him out the back window. Later when he was running down the road screaming, Michonne looked in the rear view mirror as soon as she heard the yelling and Carl stood up and watched him running down the road.

Rick is only having visions of the people he loved that died. He's not seeing random ghosts of strangers.

Deftones 03-04-13 08:35 PM

Re: The Walking Dead - "Clear" -- 03/03/2013
 

Originally Posted by Jason (Post 11601650)
I would think a county sheriff would know most if not all prisons in his state. There are 30 in Georgia. Has it ever been mentioned by name?

I don't think that's a fair assumption. I am in a law enforcement position and I probably couldn't name more than 5 prisons in the entire state, let alone tell you were most of them are. There are a ton of them here, some run by the state and some private.

sracer 03-04-13 08:47 PM

Re: The Walking Dead - "Clear" -- 03/03/2013
 

Originally Posted by Deftones (Post 11601684)
I don't think that's a fair assumption. I am in a law enforcement position and I probably couldn't name more than 5 prisons in the entire state, let alone tell you were most of them are. There are a ton of them here, some run by the state and some private.

Good to know... I won't be counting on YOU to help us when the zombie apocalypse breaks out. :)

Deftones 03-04-13 08:56 PM

Re: The Walking Dead - "Clear" -- 03/03/2013
 

Originally Posted by sracer (Post 11601697)
Good to know... I won't be counting on YOU to help us when the zombie apocalypse breaks out. :)

Don't worry. I've already got my plan. If you get in my way, you go bye-bye. :)

dino88 03-04-13 08:58 PM

Re: The Walking Dead - "Clear" -- 03/03/2013
 

Originally Posted by Deftones (Post 11601717)
Don't worry. I've already got my plan. If you get in my way, you go bye-bye. :)

This post just reminded me of the Zombie Research Society on the Talking Dead. What the fuck was that?

"The rule of 3s"
"Hide under a solar panel"

dhmac 03-04-13 09:03 PM

Re: The Walking Dead - "Clear" -- 03/03/2013
 
I liked the bit of detail when the episode started and there was a cardboard sign that said "Erin, we tried for Stone Mountain. -J"

But when the SUV got stuck in the mud and the walkers swarmed the outside of the vehicle, the female zombie on Michonne's side had a bracklet that said "Erin" on it.

DthRdrX 03-04-13 09:13 PM

Re: The Walking Dead - "Clear" -- 03/03/2013
 

Originally Posted by Jason (Post 11601650)
I think the reveal at the end of S2 (which was very effective if you hadn't read the comics) wasn't supposed to be a literal representation of their position, but creative foreshadowing.

I can understand the group driving around in the same area for six months before finding the prison. They found it by foot also, not in the cars. Who knows.

Anyway, the only logical assumption is that Rick's city is closer to Woodbury/Prison in the TV show than the comics. Not a big deal in the end. Might be explained next week with a single line.

Michael Corvin 03-04-13 09:15 PM

Re: The Walking Dead - "Clear" -- 03/03/2013
 

Originally Posted by Joe Schmoe (Post 11601611)
This episode felt like filler to me... a stall tactic on the writers' part to delay the inevitable battle between Rick and the Governor. If they had kept Morgan's fate a mystery until the series finale (or never addressed it at all), I would have been ok with it. I liked that Rick was his old self again, and I liked that Michonne had more to say and bonded with Carl, but I would have liked a few scenes with the prison gang rather than the whole show being dedicated to Rick's gun run.

They couldn't postpone this to after the Governor showdown though. Rick needed this to get his head out of his ass to be the leader his group needs him to be. Morgan's plight and downward spiral into madness is what happens to Rick if he keeps heading the direction he's going. I think this was a big ass wake up call for Rick. I'm betting we see more of the old Rick in the next episode.

DthRdrX 03-04-13 09:15 PM

Re: The Walking Dead - "Clear" -- 03/03/2013
 

Originally Posted by Deftones (Post 11601684)
I don't think that's a fair assumption. I am in a law enforcement position and I probably couldn't name more than 5 prisons in the entire state, let alone tell you were most of them are. There are a ton of them here, some run by the state and some private.

My best friend's father works at a local prison and I don't even have a clue where it is. Don't think I've ever seen or sought out a prison in my part of PA.

dino88 03-04-13 09:18 PM

Re: The Walking Dead - "Clear" -- 03/03/2013
 
I wish they would have had several close ups of the odometer before and after the trip. And if they got gas, they should have shown that in real time. That would have made this episode so much better.

Why So Blu? 03-04-13 09:34 PM

Re: The Walking Dead - "Clear" -- 03/03/2013
 
It was a slightly better episode than last week's bore.

Next week's episode should be kicking it up to 11.


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