Re: Breaking Bad -- "Dead Freight" -- 8/12/12
 

First, I hated the Joan thing too.

Second, that's a pretty decent article. I don't agree with all of it, but this is what I was trying to say:

I hope they keep Lance/Todd around.

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It's probably a stupid question, but did Todd really need to kill the kid? I understand story-wise why he did, but couldn't they just tell the kid that they were railway workers and they were just celebrating a job well done or some other lie? What are the chances that the kid would actually tell someone and that they might think it was some illegal activity and go to the cops? What would Walt, Jesse and Mike have done if Todd hadn't killed him?

I've been thinking lately that that really need to bring Jesse's family back into this somehow esp. Jesse's brother. They could have had his brother be the kid that got shot but that would have been too big of a coincidence.

Anyone else think the train stuff was another way of AMC inserting a commercial for another AMC show, Hell on Wheels? A few weeks ago it was Scarface. I know, it's probably just a coincidence but it still seems odd.

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LOL! Of course no!

So, after a mini vacations I drove home for 6 hours, I was really tired when I got home at 10:30 pm. I was ready to get to bed, since I wake up at 5 am during the week. Instead, I decided to watch this episode. I made the right choice.

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I don't see prints even coming up.

Hank saw him handle the photograph while he was in the office bawling, so no surprise there. Walt will find a way to go back in and get the ethernet bug too I suspect.

That was a two part device btw, I noticed some didn't seem to understand that. The bug in the photo caught the audio in the room, but that thing can't transmit far and they can't hang out in the DEA office monitoring it, so the bug transmits the audio to the device attached to the the network, and thus they were able to hear the audio over the laptop as it was sent out in packets. That's the only thing that makes sense about it.

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Regarding Walt's prints:

Not only might he have been fingerprinted as a teacher, and when he was nekkid in that store in a 'fuge state', but I can't believe nobody can remember when the cop stopped him for the cracked windshield, and Walt mouthed off and got roughed up and arrested.

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I don't think the train robbery was anywhere near Albuquerque.

I also don't see how they can bring back Jake. The actor who played him in season 1 was probably 12 or 13 years old. Now, he's probably 16 or 17. But only a year has passed on the show.

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Dead Freight" -- 8/12/12
 

Remember when Mike sat the new guys down and explained if either Walt or Jessie ever spoke to them and told them to jump, they were to jump?

Todd was specifically told there was to be absolutely no witnesses before the heist so he was doing what he assumed he was supposed to do, eliminate the witness.

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Given that he's figured everything else out at a rate that Sherlock Holmes would be jealous, yea I think there's a good chance he'll find out about Walt before the end of the show.

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Dead Freight" -- 8/12/12
 

fucking love how Walt nonchalantly responded to Skyler's question about burying bodies, by stating "robbing a train." fucking awesome. :lol:

holy shit that whole scene was fucking intense. my palms were sweating. i don't think i've ever been this nervous watching a tv show ever. wow, and the ending. holy moly.

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Of course Hank is going to find out about Walt. I think you misread my post.

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BTW, really, REALLY happy there wasn't much Skyler this week. She's really getting on my nerves.

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Time to put the bitch in the ground.

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They even have a nice container right there they could fill with it.

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Yeah, but jr. was being such a whiney bitch. Glad that Walt let out some Heisenberg whoop ass on him.

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I think there's no doubt it's in the 8th episode. I'll take bets on it.

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I was sort of taken aback by Walt disclosing that info given how sketchy Skylab has been lately. I mean why take any chances with that bitch.

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Dead Freight" -- 8/12/12
 

I agree that Skyler and Walt Jr are both annoying whiners and I wouldn't be upset if either of them somehow stopped being on the show. I think the episodes would flow better if Walt had nothing to lose.

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If it goes poorly, she's the least of his worries.

If it goes well, there would be nothing for it to coorespond to. If she tried to use it, that might just discredit her all the more.

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Article was interesting except for this at the end, All movies and TV shows use multiple children, it's SOP.

BTW it was the greatest season of Mad Men and that includes the Joan as whore episode.

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Dead Freight" -- 8/12/12
 

He has nothing he hasn't already lost, but he doesn't realize that. Flynn has rejected his name and is essentially out of there. Skylar is rooting for his death, and he likely won't live long enough one way or another to have a relationship with his infant daughter. I think it likely this will be a theme in the remaining episodes of the series.

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[snip] The only reason Walt even started this shit was to "provide for his family". Now he's gone full sociopath and they're the bad guys because they still have some fucking sense. -rolleyes-

A whiny bitch? If your parents kicked you out of the house one night without even offering one reason, you'd just accept that? As a teenager? That would be far more of a bitch move, really.

It came out of nowhere. The kid has a legitimate reason to be upset, and they could've at least said "We're going through some shit, son. Please just give us some time." instead of Walt basically going "Get the fuck out and don't ask questions."

Some of you seriously need to take off your "Walt's a badass" glasses and look at this shit from other characters perspectives sometime.

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Dead Freight" -- 8/12/12
 

[snip]

This is not some heroic tale about a badass drug kingpin who outwits his inferiors. I hope you understand that. The show would not improve by giving Walter "nothing to lose". [snip]

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[snip]
Back on topic, I can't wait until the next episode, it does just seem to keep getting better and better with each episode.

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Dead Freight" -- 8/12/12
 

Great episode.

The train robbery scene was pretty intense.

It was obvious Todd was going to have an impact in the episode, but I actually thought Mike and/or Walt would just kill him once the job was done. It doesn't really make a lot of sense since he was a trusted person, but I thought it would be explained somehow.

Totally forgot about the kid from the beginning of the episode until he showed up at the end... then I uttered the words "uh-oh".

Funny that Walt/Jesse wanted to overcomplicate the robbery in order to avoid killing the 2 people working on the train (and I guess hiding the fact that a robbery actually took place) but in the end 2 adults were spared but a young kid died.

Jesse should just sit and listen to Mike and Walt fight, he turns into a genius whenever that happens. He could write symphonies and find a cure for cancer with this process in place. :lol:

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I noticed they were monitoring the output pretty closely and didn't start the water input until 300 gallons. I wonder if, since they stopped both at the same time, if they didn't get enough water in there to replace the methamine. They didn't seem to be monitoring that too closely to see if they got the amounts right.
I mean, they said they are replacing 9/10, so shouldn't they have started it at 100 gallons provided both were flowing at the same speeds?

Almost sounds to me like even after all of that and the kid dying that they are still going to set off warning flags.

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Dead Freight" -- 8/12/12
 

It's a good thing you weren't in charge, otherwise they'd have withdrawn a bunch of watered-down methylamine.

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Dead Freight" -- 8/12/12
 

Nice to see Saul's "A" guy, this time portraying a dumb ass truck driver. Give that man an Oscar.

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They were mostly just using gravity to drain the train and a pump to pump the water in. They weren't working at the same rate. There is a lot that Vulture and others have pointed out about this episode that bug me, but trusting Walt to get something science or math related right is not remotely one of them.

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I was wondering about putting in the water while extracting the methylamine in the same tank. Wouldn't it mix some, or is Walt planning on filtering it somehow (being the chemist that he is)?

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Dead Freight" -- 8/12/12
 

Well, they explained that it's a methylamine solution in the first place. Let's say it's 20% methylamine and 80% water. The reason 1000 gallons wouldn't be too detectable is that in the train car's size they diluted it I think he said 4%. The pesticide company it was going to would accuse the Chinese of being cheap bastards, a la the melamine they were at one point putting into milk to cheat on protein tests.

If the methylamine solution had certain properties (like a higher specific weight than water), the water would at least in a short time frame tend to just sit on top of the tank. Over the next few hundred miles, it would even out. That said, yes, that might dilute what was in their tank a bit too. I'm sure given the cooks they have done, Walt is used to having to take a few intermediate steps to assess and control for the particulars of his ingredients.

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This isn't something they can hope to guess at though. Anything less than a slight deviation is going to alert homeland security and they are going to be in a world of shit. Everything just went too loose to think that they got it precisely right.

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Dead Freight" -- 8/12/12
 

Anyone else think that brunette woman is going to end up killing Mike? Seems too obvious though.

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That scene was great and the WTF look on her face was priceless.

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Re: Breaking Bad -- "Dead Freight" -- 8/12/12
 

I think at some point his family is going to be killed and the show is going to end with a huge bang once he doesn't have anything left. This all goes back to speculation with him at the opener with the, I want to say, Machine gun in the trunk of his car.

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Dead Freight" -- 8/12/12
 

No problems Pal, sorry about that.

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Walt has shown over and over that he is much more concerned about his ego than anything else, including being smart.

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Re: Breaking Bad -- "Dead Freight" -- 8/12/12
 

I, like others, forgot about the opening until Todd blew away the kid. I wasn't expecting that, though. I really thought Todd would've ended up being an undercover agent or something later in the season.

I had no problems at all with this episode. The entire train heist, along with some great one liners, ranks this one up there with the season premiere as the best episodes of this "first half" of Season 5.

The wait until next week is going to suck. Only 3 more episodes! :(

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Link?