Re: Breaking Bad -- "Dead Freight" -- 8/12/12
 

rotfl I said that earlier tonight.

Bad ass indeed.

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Dead Freight" -- 8/12/12
 

Walter's fault the kid's dead. He made it very clear to Todd. "No one can know about this."

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Dead Freight" -- 8/12/12
 

What's their alternative?

"... there are two kinds of heists: those where the guys get away with it, and those that leave witnesses."

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Dead Freight" -- 8/12/12
 

i loved the shot to where Hank opens the door and see's behind Walt's as he's putting the tracker in the picture but doesn't realize it

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Dead Freight" -- 8/12/12
 

Actually it was Jesse who said that, and Walt who asked Todd "Are you sure?"

Then again, Walt had no reaction when Todd raised the gun, so there's also that.

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Dead Freight" -- 8/12/12
 

Doesn't matter that Walt didn't freak out and say "NOOOOOO!" Jesse is just as guilty as the others. Hell, he has seen first hand what meth does to families and children in the "Peekaboo episode" and yet he still willingly produces it. Jesse is no born again moral saint. Guilty.

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Dead Freight" -- 8/12/12
 

I think this episode was a homage to Heat. The gang brings in a new guy (Todd and Waingro) and they both kill someone during the heist. Hank even mentions the Heat Blu-ray.

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Dead Freight" -- 8/12/12
 

I loved this episode. The heist was pulse-pounding, and I should have seen that ending coming but the show is so good that I didn't. Aside from the moral implications, I couldn't help but think of all the different ramifications that will come from a dead/missing white kid. Things are just going to get more insane and intense from here on out.

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Dead Freight" -- 8/12/12
 

Checking today's Ript shirt gave me a chuckle just now, in that you can get it in kids' sizes and baby onesies.

http://i.imgur.com/73nLT.jpg

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Dead Freight" -- 8/12/12
 

Forgetting the dirtbike kid for a moment (once I saw that they were doing the heist in desert, I knew he would witness it, but didn't think it would end like that), Hank seems to be pretty attached to Holly, so I'm guessing that is going to figure into things.

I was pretty shocked that Walt put the bug and ethernet device in place without using gloves - his prints are all over those now. Interesting that one plot twist has already happened due to something found hidden behind a photo.

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Dead Freight" -- 8/12/12
 

It was a great ep., but I wish that hadn't of happened. Now they've got to hide the body, and there will be a huge search, presumedly out in that area. I was kind of liking non-angst Jesse, business-like, thinking of relatively smart ideas that actually work. I don't know, just adds a big element I kinda wish wasn't there but oh well.

The bug and keystroke logger (if that's what that was) were crazy bold moves. There's probably not that big of a chance of them being found, but I'm guessing they probably will be somehow (picture falls of desk, computer upgrade or whatever). I hope Hank finds out some other way though--that's too obvious--but when he does I hope he'll have a real Keyser Soze moment, where all the pieces flash back to Hank where it all makes sense.

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Dead Freight" -- 8/12/12
 

What, they can't get their hands on more hydrofluoric acid? ;)

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Dead Freight" -- 8/12/12
 

I noticed that immediately, too. I think Walt has hit that point where he feels he's so much smarter than the authorities, and specifically so able to manipulate Hank, that he can basically get away with anything, so basic precautions that he might have considered earlier don't seem as important to him. I think this sort of sloppiness is going to come back to haunt him later.

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Dead Freight" -- 8/12/12
 

Would any government agencies have Walt's prints on file? I don't think he's ever been arrested, correct?

If they suspected him they could obviously try and get prints from him after the fact, but if they had no reason to suspect him I would think the prints just come up no match.

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Dead Freight" -- 8/12/12
 

I didn't think that Todd guy had it in him so I was surprised when he shot him. That's what I get for making assumptions on TV characters I barely know.

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Dead Freight" -- 8/12/12
 

brilliant, simply brilliant.

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Dead Freight" -- 8/12/12
 

People can get printed for other things. I was printed years ago when I was robbed and some of the items got resold. They printed me to match up with the items to prove where they'd come from. Now, I don't know that they kept my prints on file, but I'm guessing they did.

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Dead Freight" -- 8/12/12
 

I also like Heat reference early on - and the fact that Todd pulls a "Waingro" at the end.

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Dead Freight" -- 8/12/12
 

I think that Hank is smart enough to connect the dots, since he just moved into the office that day and would know that he didn't have the ethernet device before. As far as fingerprints, remember that he got Gus's prints on a hunch.

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Dead Freight" -- 8/12/12
 

Walt was a teacher, so I would imagine his prints are on file somewhere.

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Dead Freight" -- 8/12/12
 

That makes sense. But we haven't been shown anything during the course of the series to make us think Walt's prints are on file. So if they were to come up with them via a method like you describe, that would seem kind of like a deus ex machina to me which I wouldn't expect from VG.

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Dead Freight" -- 8/12/12
 

Ahh good point about him just moving in, although as far as he knows that stuff was there before he moved.

And I didn't realize they print teachers these days but I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Dead Freight" -- 8/12/12
 

Wow. For me, that was just epic...one of the best episodes of the series.

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Dead Freight" -- 8/12/12
 

Don't fingerprints wear off after a couple weeks? I don't think Walt has too much to worry about.

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Dead Freight" -- 8/12/12
 

Another great Mike episode. The interrogation scene had me on the edge of my seat.

Favorite quote:

"Everyone sounds like Meryl Streep with a gun to their head"

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Dead Freight" -- 8/12/12
 

Yes, teachers nowadays have to do FBI fingerprinting on a computer pad.

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Dead Freight" -- 8/12/12
 

Do you guys really think that's how Hank is going to find out who Walt really is? Fingerprints? :lol:

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Dead Freight" -- 8/12/12
 

Honestly, when he was told "no one else can know about this," I thought he gave a certain look that instantly made me think he was an undercover cop originally set up to take down the exterminators, but then realized he had something bigger to take down.

Then the last scene happened, so that theory is gone. :lol:

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Dead Freight" -- 8/12/12
 

In season 2 Walt was picked up when he was naked in the conveniance store. I'm guessing they got his prints that night.

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Dead Freight" -- 8/12/12
 

Really phenomenal episode. I wasn't sure what to think of the opening at first. I thought the kid might be a younger version of someone in a flashback but the spider thing made no sense. The heist was intense and brilliantly edited.

I had an added bonus when watching this on my laptop that my battery was about to die and I was nowhere near an outlet. I was five minutes from the end of the show and my computer was flashing and beeping saying you MUST change batteries NOW! About five seconds after the credits came up, my computer shut down. My other battery was dead too.

Absolutely one of the finest episodes of the series. I can't wait to see it again.

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Dead Freight" -- 8/12/12
 

It was "Yeah bitch!! Magnets!! Oooooh!!".

What an episode... I loved the whole heist thing. Man this was a great one.

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Dead Freight" -- 8/12/12
 

Meanwhile over on the Facebook page "People for the Ethical Treatment of Spiders" aka PETS, members were high-fiving each other. :D

Thos.

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Dead Freight" -- 8/12/12
 

I'm trying with all my might not to read any posts on this thread. I wasn't able to watch last night but will be rushing home at 4:15 PM EST to get my fix.

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Dead Freight" -- 8/12/12
 

Try "years."

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Dead Freight" -- 8/12/12
 

I don't get your joke. They were glad a spider was most likely going to die in a small jar exposed to the sun?

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Dead Freight" -- 8/12/12
 

Yeah the jar didn't break IIRC. So the spider is SOL.

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Dead Freight" -- 8/12/12
 

I meant that someone not treating spiders ethically was shot/killed.

I'm sure Jesse will save/adopt the spider. ;)

Thos.

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Dead Freight" -- 8/12/12
 

Others were pointing out that for both the kid and the spider, it was "wrong place, wrong time." Sucks. But back to business: That Madrigal lady. She's still a loose end even though she helped them out.

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Dead Freight" -- 8/12/12
 

I thought it was a callback to season 1 when the kid out in the desert found the gas mask. I was thinking, what piece of evidence is this kid gonna unearth? Then the episode was so tense I forgot all about the intro like many others here.

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Dead Freight" -- 8/12/12
 

I thought this episode was excellent and had no issues with it, but outside of this forum it seems to be polarizing for some. The complaint seems to be about the implausibility of the heist, as defined by the established BB reality:

http://www.vulture.com/m/2012/08/bre...d-freight.html

I don't agree, but I know how it feels to be a dissenter in the face of greatness. :) In this past season of Mad Men, I was one of the few who found Joan's turn (and it's abruptness) to be a betrayal of her character, but 99% of the people thought it was the greatest hour of television ever produced.