I rooted for Dan during BB10, and here too he seems like the smartest/most likable player. Hope he wins again.

Mike knows he isn't as good and cool as Dr. Will right? Him saying exactly what Will used to say about being insulted that he isn't nominated makes him look like an even bigger tool.

He's trying to duplicate his BB10 playbook, but it will be really tough for him to pull off two wins. He's built up some solid relationships; Dan is always doing something with everything he does whether it's planting seeds, building relationships, stroking egos...etc. Everything has a reason. Still, he's going to need a lot of luck to make it far in this game.

No, he doesn't. He thinks he brings the magic (his words). With all of Boogie's post HOH pouting and whining about people lying to him, Dan and Janie were joking that they ended up with Robin instead of Batman (Dr. Will). Janie was even considering swiping Boogie's "Where's Will?" t-shirt and wearing it to veto.

I like the idea of a silent six alliance, and it would be smart to get rid of Janelle. She should be home with her new baby anyway.

They showed a little of this in the episode, but the person most responsible for this happening is probably Britney. Dan was working with Janelle and wanted to continue to work with Janelle (the Janelle talk with Frank was Dan's idea to Frank to try to mend fences). However, Britney can't help herself. She always has to be talking about someone. Since Shane's HOH week she has been trashing Janelle to Danielle. Danielle is extremely hyper-insecure. She can't not have people listening to her so she competes with Britney for the worst anti-Janelle material.

Now Janelle is not completely innocent; she has been a little shady, and the impetus for Danielle not trusting her is a lie that Janelle told to Danielle about JoJo making fun of her body on a night when Janelle was bored and wanted to try to start a fight.

Dan saved Janelle from going on the block at least three times last weekend. It's clear he gave up after the coaches meeting. When you couple that with Boogie and Frank's workable plan, and the fact that Frank has been trustworthy in the game it sealed Janie's fate. In contrast, whenever Dan would sort of pitch the idea of working with Janelle to the group, it would get shot down immediately.

The one thing this most assuredly demonstrates is that Britney doesn't know what she's doing. She's probably not nearly self aware enough to know that her words have now virtually sealed the fate of a terrific competitor who wanted to go to the end with her and never would have nominated her. And this isn't final four; this is final 12. Britney is a Big Brother savant.

That having been said, Janelle has proven to have nine lives before in the BB house so you never know...

No one gets btwn Boogie and his man .

Me too, though I was surprised they didn't consider it a silent seven alliance with Ian included.


mwbmis--appreciate your posted insights as always. Very interesting!

I still don't get what happened and Dan seems to have misread Jani and made a rare mistake. How you could choose to play with Boogie over Jani, I'll never understand.

The funny thing is, I had no idea Jani was even so unpopular inside the house.

Britney has been truly annoying this season and, I agree, despite my belief that Dan could have fixed this had he wanted to, Britney led the charge to make this happen because she's really insecure and I'm not sure why. Shane is not a bad guy, but he's really clueless.

Ian gave up a trip to Maui to be the house's dog? In other words, he preferred the attention he'd get over a vacation. Idiot.

Danielle's head keeps growing any bigger and it will explode. The hardcore BB fans LOVE Jani and don't seem to be taking this well, Dani rubbing it in is not a bright move and knowing how you're going to appear on television is part of being a good/great player. Janie is #1 at Jokers and Dani had dropped to next to last. For some reason, Wil is one spot lower.

I did find it funny how Britney gave a terrific fake look of shock when Jani got chosen to replace Wil on the block.

Is there any chance that if Boogie or Frank wins the next HOH that they won't target one of the Silent 6? Bad move Dan.

They're keeping the Ian thing a secret. There are two separate alliances: the silent six and the Quack Pack. Ian is fully informed about the Silent Six, but Mike and Frank don't know about the Quack Pack. As far as they know, they are wholly responsible for securing Ian's vote.

As things stand now, I would be very surprised if Frank and Boogie bust up the alliance this early. As Boogie said...who else is there to work with? Joe? Wil? Ashley? You can only take out one player at a time and the Dan-4 alliance has too many big challenge threats to betray this early. That having been said, I'm sure they'd love it if Jen pulled off an HOH in the next week or two and got rid of Dan or Danielle.

Janelle isn't out the door yet though.

Totally agree. There's no reason for them to turn on the alliance that quickly. There's far too many people left in the house at this point. And Boogie knows that if someone outside the alliance wins HoH, he will be on the block. He needs the Silent Six votes for now.

That makes more sense. So, in essence, the "real" house alliance doesn't include Frank and Boogie and DOES include Ian. But they don't need to know that until it's too late.

Boogie has so much hubris that I don't think it would even occur to him that Ian would do that. They have to make sure to keep the alliance hidden though.

Dan has said several times that if they had another Ian then nominations would have stayed the same. He was just worrying about doing it with five, and there was significant resistance to Janelle as the sixth.

Here's the essence of how this all went down:

After the coaches entered the game on Thursday, Dan let it slip to Boogie that Frank was to have been evicted. He did this in order to ingratiate himself to Boogie, and sort of threw Danielle under the bus since she was his player and the swing vote.

Danielle wins the HOH and puts up Wil and Frank, with the intention of getting Frank out of the House.

Boogie has been working Dan all week to keep Frank safe. Meanwhile, Britney and Danielle are really insecure and feel threatened by Janelle like a couple of whiny sorority girls.

Danielle wins the Veto.

Boogie and Frank then propose a six person "Avengers" alliance to Dan, Danielle, Shane, and Britney. He wants Dani to use the veto to take off Frank and put up Janelle. This plan is seriously considered by the four.

The next night, Dan and Boogie are in the HOH room alone talking game. Janelle and Britney come into the HOH room and the discussion continues. A coach's alliance is proposed between the four of them, and Boogie starts calling Janelle out of some things. Janelle doesn't handle herself well and this completely switches Dan around to Boogie's plan.

When Janelle leaves the HOH room, a plan is hatched to save Wil and put up Janelle in his place.

Shane, Dan, Britney, and Dani then form a second alliance with Ian that he named the "Quack Pack." Ian knows about the six-person "Avengers" alliance, but Boogie and Frank are clueless about the alliance with Ian. The "Quack Pack" is in place because they know that Boogie and Frank can't be trusted, so they can take them down when the time comes.

^^^ One of the most incredible back-and-forth weekends I've ever witnessed in the BB house. The CBS edit focused on the one meeting that sealed Janelle's fate, but that was the final chess move of a weekend where there were three or four equally-compelling meetings/switches between backdooring Janelle or sending Frank packing.

I feel so bad for Britney. She clearly didn't want to send Janelle packing. She's not at all a mean backbiting player.

Boogie kind of exposed the alliance in the HOH competition, but that is what competition is designed to do.

My guess for the block is Joe (the target) and Shane (the swerve). Rumor has it there was a DR leak this morning where a question to Dan about the "Silent Six" was broadcast throughout the house.

I have to say, some of the picks folks made for pairs in the HOH Competition were moronic.

On a human level, I feel bad for her, because I don't think she's got a good make-up for this game. Still, she's been catty and obnoxious and can't make up her mind about anything. She's the reason Janie went home and she has no real clue other than the instinct that's making her sad about it, that it was the wrong choice.

I don't want to see anyone from the major alliance go, because I think that makes Boogie even stronger, but a part of me would actually be happy to see one of them leave and see what happens when you make deals with Mike Boogie.

If it's Shane that goes, so be it, because then both Dani and Britney will feel like crap and it will be because they had to be so catty and stupid about Jani,

Jenelle sucks at this game. All she did was piss people off. She never saw the backdoor coming. Got the boot with an 8-1 margin. Can we stop with the "one of the greatest to ever play the game" nonsense?

Shane kinda looked like Bill Compton (True Blood) after shaving and being all dressed up.

NO.

Jani was more popular than anything else. From her first season until now, she's still one of the most popular contestants on the show. Viewers and feeders tended to like her a lot.

But the reputation that you speak incorrectly of maybe it does belong to "Jenelle" for another show. Janelle was NEVER considered a particularly good strategic player. Even her fans would laugh at some of the things she did and didn't do.

The fact is...results matter. 2 times getting to 3rd place is impressive. Maybe not up there with the small handful of great players, but can't be ignored.

Besides, other than the fact the she was a huge fan favorite, Janie's reputation came from her prowess in challenges. I don't have mwbmis's memory, but Janelle probably had the most wins of any female in the show's history coming into this season and she was VERY strong both times she played. That's impressive, even if her strategic game wasn't nearly as strong.

She was awesome in challenges and the fans loved her. That's her BB legacy. Nothing more, nothing less.

PS-Dan has actually been rated number 1 at Jokers for most of the season, with Janie 2nd. Since Janie's betrayal, Janie has been way out in front and everyone that went against her has taken a hit. Dan went from 1-5 and that's the best anyone's done.

Wil, Boogie and Danielle, who all seemed to go the hardest on Janie are all at the bottom of the Jokers ratings. Some of these people are going to be surprised at how going against such a huge fan favorite can impact you with the fans when they show up to Vegas. Dan, of course, the smartest of the group to remind the fans/America that he never wanted this to happen.

You seem a little obsessed with her, dolphinboy. I thought Michelle was your girl.

I don't know why you always mention those ratings at Jokers. That is not a true representation of the majority. It's a small, irrational group. Aren't they the ones that are always trying to get someone fired each season? Those death threats from last year probably stemmed from them.

You should have watched more AD and your opinion might have changed, rather than judging everything based on past seasons. There's a reason no one in the house liked her.

You have your opinions and please let me have mine.

There's nothing about my post that suggests that I'm obsessed with Janie. She's one of maybe 3 or 4 people this season that I'm rooting for.

I simply stated the facts. Janie's reputation comes mostly from challenge victories, being a fan favorite and 2-3rd places finishes. If that doesn't qualify her as "one" of the better players, I don't know what would.

Sorry, you weren't even right about Michele, so you might want to pay closer attention as well.

Jokers is where a LOT of hardcore fans go. Period. If you wanted to know if Jeff was going to win the fan favorite, the sampling of votes showed that he would. You can dismiss it, but because there are freaks there doesn't mean the site doesn't have any importance when analyzing certain parts of the show...especially how the viewers are liking the people in the house. It's been very accurate when it comes to how the fans are feelings for a LONG time, even going back to when Janie first played.

Not everyone has the time to watch the feeds or AD. I'm sure you know more about the show then anyone else here. I'm simply posting in the show thread, because I'm going by what I'm seeing on television.

I'm not saying you can't have your own opinion. I'm just saying that it might be different had you seen more of Janelle outside the CBS edit, rather than how you remember her from past seasons.

I'm not sure what you mean.

Everyone knew Jeff would win FF. You didn't need to go to Jokers to figure that out.

Not a single person I know personally that watches BB liked Janelle this season. Everyone was over the moon when the house flipped on her. I'll take that sample size over some nutty people on a fringe website.

No, I don't know more than anyone else here. I just have my own opinions. I haven't watched much AD this year and I've never watched the feeds. I did see enough AD to know that Janelle is incredibly obnoxious and bitchy.

I for one was happy to see her go tonight.

Are fans really over the moon? This is the lowest rated season in a while and that is coming off last year which was wildly popular. Frank is twitchy and annoying in every confessional and alligned with the biggest douchebag not named Jessie in the shows history and looks set to go far.

If something doesn't change in the house dynamics in the next 2-3 weeks I will ditch out on the season as watching Chilltown vs Fodder without Dr Will is like The Office with Andy in charge or The Bulls with Scott Pippen . No thanks

I was watching Wednesday's episode with a friend and I told her I think Frank may be a terrorist. It looks like he's sending out some sort of message with all those blinks.

I can't wait for Homeland to start.