Interesting! Hadn't thought about that.

Seems like half the people in this thread do.

Ah okay, thanks a lot. I'd definitely prefer that version, but I understand why they couldn't use it.

THIS thread?

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There's absolutely no way that's Rickon and Bran Stark. It's obvious, people. Theon needs to have the respect of the soldiers below him...it's a recurring theme. Hence burning two bodies beyond the point of recognition....so they can't tell it's not Rickon and Bran.

Really confused by the Danerys storyline now. So is that freakish looking warlock (Pree, right?) holding her dragons captive? Obviously her and the three-named guy staged a coup over the Thirteen, but he's telling her where the dragons are...is he just daring her to try to rescue them? He said they should be with their mother, so I almost got the impression that he wants to give them up? Maybe I'm totally reading this wrong. NOT SPECULATION, SPOILER TAG IS OKAY, BUT DON'T GIVE THE STORY AWAY - JUST THE INTENT PLEASE.

I didn't think it was hurt by it...but I definitely noticed the shorter scenes and quicker jumps.

Agreed. It goes back to people talking about how there are no absolute good vs. evil scenarios here. You see Cersei as someone who is evil and fiendish, with this grand plot to put Joffrey on the Iron Throne...and now full of regret, as she'd no idea the monster Joffrey would become. First time that Cersei sparked something in me other than dislike.

Agreed.

Hodor. Hodorhodorhodor. Hodor!

They're NOT. You can tell by my signature that I'm not spoiling it...it's just that obvious.

I thought that scene was obvious...I even said "You have to die" right along with Jamie. It needed to be shown how desperate and ruthless Jamie is, and that he'll do anything to try to escape.

Arya and Tywin Lannister are absolutely fantastic together. I was smiling the whole time during that scene. He has a lot of respect for her and geniunely enjoys having her around. I'd watch 52 minutes of those two together, I think.

NO TALK ABOUT SEASON ONE IN THE SEASON TWO EPISODE THREADS!!!! Kidding...just giving you a hard time.

Bingo.

See, this is going to now confuse me in Book #2, so I have to ask (SPOILER TAGS PLEASE): are Jeyne/Talisa the same person? If not, is Talisa the books? I agree with Pinata here...don't refer to someone as another name. At best, you're confusing us who haven't read the books, and at worst, you're spoiling something.

Hodor.

Then HBO's website shouldn't say it's the Stark boys. The synopsis doesn't leave it up to question - it's stated as fact.

But I still don't believe it is them. I don't think Theon has it in him. I could be wrong.

Also, are we to assume Cat is going to off Jaime?

In the book...

I'm still thrown by Jamie's shocking revelation that the only woman he's ever been with was Cersie. Here is what appears to be the closest thing Westeros has to a Rock Star and the only person he's ever fucked is his (married) twin sister? That's just so, so wrong. You've got nothing to be ashamed of any more, Jon Snow.

Great pictorial in this weekend's LA Times Magazine of a dragon's best friend.

No, the quote you posted says that Theon is "offering a message to those that defy him..." The whole point of the "message" is to make the people think it is the Starks.

BTW what happened to you being done with these threads?

I couldn't tell either. Pree or whatever is a hard read, but it almost seemed like he expected Dany to be pleased by the revelation that the dragons were safe in his care, and that she would agree to stay with them. Not sure why he would have that impression though. So he might also just be a creepy fuck.

Yeah, especially since she (and Jorah, as well) seemed to be terrified by him.

Is anyone else besides me a Jorah fan? I'm a huge fan of his...I love the character.

He's probably my favorite character on the show. Or top 3. I love how old school he is.

Gross

For me it's Tyrion, then Arya, then Jorah. Renly was probably #4.

Nonsense

You may prefer the first season, but there's no way anyone can say it was, "so much better."

I am thrilled with the entire thing and can't believe the consistency of quality.

Xaro doesn't appear to want the dragons, so he let Pree take them in exchange for help in becoming king. Pree acts like he doesn't want the dragons either, but it's impossible to tell what his real motivations are. He seems more interested in getting Dany to the House of the Undying for what we can only presume will be a really creepy purpose.

The actor is just too similar to Tywin, so I guess I should actually not like Tywin because Jorah appears first.

Seriously, where the heck did Ghost go?

Hmm, I took what he said to mean that he knew she would come after them, and that he'd force her to take care of the dragons while they are young. Or something like that. It definitely didn't seem like he didn't WANT the dragons.

You know nothing, Jon Snow...awesome delivery.

Jamie was in the Kingsguard since he was 17. I'm pretty sure they swore to not take a wife.

And Jamie's KingSlayer explination was perfect.

"you swear an oath to protect the king, you swear to honor your father, you swear to protect the innocent.

What if your father despises the king, what if the king kills the innocent?"

^ Yeah, one of my favorite things about the show is that pretty much everybody has a somewhat logical or acceptable reason for being the way they are. There seems to be very little pure evil, which makes this fantasy show much more realistic.