Game of Thrones -- "The Night Lands" -- 4/08/12
04-12-12 | 03:05 PM
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Night Lands" -- 4/08/12
Also, if anyone had issues with the "implied incest" between Theron and Yara, they obviously didn't watch the first episode of the series. 
04-12-12 | 03:29 PM
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Night Lands" -- 4/08/12
The politics follow European Fuedalism. The king has no standing army. He has the seven kingdoms who swear fealty to him. To raise an army he asks his nobles to march with him.
No one is going to just automatically jump on a teenage boy's team, but he has a powerful and respected Grandfather, Tywin. The kings army is basically the Lannisters army.
Renly staked his claim to the throne, so he has some of the Baratheon bannermen who swear fealty to whoever has been given Storms End and the Tyrell army on his side.
That's three of the 7.
The Stark army is with Robb
The Aryn bannermen are just cooling their heels in The Vale with batshit Lysa and her son
The Riverlands (Caitlyn's family) is technically not really committed but Tywin sent raiding parties to harass them
And the so far unseen Dorne is a mystery at this point
Minor players is the rebellious Iron Islands who seem to have other plans and the ships and allies of Dragonstone who are following Stannis
No one is going to just automatically jump on a teenage boy's team, but he has a powerful and respected Grandfather, Tywin. The kings army is basically the Lannisters army.
Renly staked his claim to the throne, so he has some of the Baratheon bannermen who swear fealty to whoever has been given Storms End and the Tyrell army on his side.
That's three of the 7.
The Stark army is with Robb
The Aryn bannermen are just cooling their heels in The Vale with batshit Lysa and her son
The Riverlands (Caitlyn's family) is technically not really committed but Tywin sent raiding parties to harass them
And the so far unseen Dorne is a mystery at this point
Minor players is the rebellious Iron Islands who seem to have other plans and the ships and allies of Dragonstone who are following Stannis
The "Mad King" Aerys Targaryen killed Rickard and Brandon Stark. This caused the Starks, led by Ned, and Baratheons, led by Robert, to go to war against the Targaryens (and the Iron Throne). The Starks and Baratheons were joined by the Arryns and Tullys.
The Lannisters, led by Tywin (then Hand of the King) sat the conflict out until the end, when they saw that the Targaryens were on the losing side of the conflict, and they sided with the rebellion and sacked Kings Landing.
04-12-12 | 04:01 PM
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Night Lands" -- 4/08/12
To be correct it was the murder of Leanna Stark Robert's betrothed (whom Robert visited in crypts in the first Ep.) which caused both Robert and the Starks to rebel against the mad king.
04-12-12 | 04:15 PM
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Night Lands" -- 4/08/12
Small tip for people who haven't read the book: watch the scene with Arya and the three guys in the cage carefully. It's important.
04-12-12 | 07:16 PM
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Night Lands" -- 4/08/12
Not so. Josh is correct. Lyanna died at the end of the war (in the Tower of Joy in Dorne. Promise me, Ned).
04-12-12 | 07:44 PM
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04-12-12 | 08:50 PM
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04-12-12 | 08:56 PM
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04-12-12 | 11:55 PM
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Night Lands" -- 4/08/12
The war began when Aerys had Brandon and Rickard Stark killed when they traveled to King's Landing to demand Aerys force Rhaegar to return Lyanna.
At that point, Lyanna and Rheagar were both still alive, and Ned and Robert went to war against the Mad King.
(And this isn't spoiler material, most of it is explained in the series, and there is more detail in the special features on the blu-ray.)
04-13-12 | 02:37 PM
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Night Lands" -- 4/08/12
You never want to try to fight your way up such a narrow route...you take huge amounts of losses and the enemy troops can slowly give ground while slaughtering you (did you watch 300?)
You really need some marine forces to take that kind of city. Attack from all sides. Plus King's Landing has ships also - they would be picking off your men from ships laden with crossbowmen and catapults and such.
04-13-12 | 08:28 PM
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Night Lands" -- 4/08/12
^ Yeah, and it would be pretty bad if they found a way to trap you somehow once you got your ships close to their shores...
04-14-12 | 01:54 PM
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Night Lands" -- 4/08/12
Not just Arya, but the writers on the show too. Given that GRRM didn't fill in if Syrio died or not, in that scene in which Arya ran off for safety, all we heard was a distant scream by someone possibly being killed. If that was Syrio screaming, we don't know.
04-14-12 | 02:02 PM
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Night Lands" -- 4/08/12
Well, she sort of was. But she didn't die until later.
The war began when Aerys had Brandon and Rickard Stark killed when they traveled to King's Landing to demand Aerys force Rhaegar to return Lyanna.
At that point, Lyanna and Rheagar were both still alive, and Ned and Robert went to war against the Mad King.
(And this isn't spoiler material, most of it is explained in the series, and there is more detail in the special features on the blu-ray.)
The war began when Aerys had Brandon and Rickard Stark killed when they traveled to King's Landing to demand Aerys force Rhaegar to return Lyanna.
At that point, Lyanna and Rheagar were both still alive, and Ned and Robert went to war against the Mad King.
(And this isn't spoiler material, most of it is explained in the series, and there is more detail in the special features on the blu-ray.)
04-14-12 | 02:31 PM
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Night Lands" -- 4/08/12
It's hardly ambiguous.
04-15-12 | 08:35 AM
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Night Lands" -- 4/08/12
04-15-12 | 09:02 AM
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Night Lands" -- 4/08/12
Syrio could've knocked the guy out and gotten away. Just because Syrio didn't kill someone else doesn't imply that he must be dead.
04-15-12 | 10:06 AM
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Night Lands" -- 4/08/12
Of course that's a possibility but one normally doesn't scream when being knocked out. I'm only going by what the show has shown. I presume him dead which is far more likely than anything else with the information we were given.