Or a wine tasting competition.

Maggie, who later committed a minor crime I think, admittedly went into hiding after winning her season with Kaysar and Janelle (probably the most popular 2 BB house guests of all time) and Natalie has not been heard from after her season. I doubt either would give back their $500,000 and $50,000 respectively to make the few heckles they've received never happen.

She'll have one bad week of dealing with things she'll most hear from other people who tell her and what she reads and she'll go back to her life and never be heard from again.

Other than the fact that she might not be popular at BB reunions or reality show conventions, I doubt that Shelley was ever going to do those things anyway. Even Jeff and Jordan don't, which is actually why a lot of the weirdos, imo, who live for that stuff for years and years (Chelsia & Michele are two) don't like Jeff and Jordan. For all the America loves them stuff, the actually people who sort of feed off of reality stardom, don't like Jordan or Jeff.

The only thing Shelley needs to probably do is avoid all the internet sites. But I've heard they have already kind of tipped her off in the DR and most people who actually are a part of the show have a good time together the night of the finale, and then if she wants to avoid any unnecessary drama, all she needs to do is go home and go back to the life she had before the show. If she ever feels sorry for herself, she need only spend some time with Mike Boogie and his "Uncle Jerry" to put some context to what putting yourself in the fish bowl can really lead to.

No one will stalk her and even Jeff and Jordan will make some kind of peace with her before they all fly back home. The anti Shelley FB page has like 4,000 members. Not bad for a stupid FB page, but hardly a huge showing of America's hatred towards her. I, personally, find her absolutely disgusting, selfish and self-righteous, but Rachel seems to be actually a bit insane and she's now the 2nd most loved person in the house. After the show ends, who really cares what these people do, but when they enter the habitrail, they should all know what they're signing up for.

edit to add: The America Hates Shelley Moore is now over 7,000 strong. I have to admit I chuckled at first when I saw there was a new one called- I Hate Shelly Moore from BB13 and her MAN FACE. There's just over 1,000 members in that one and a picture of Shelley with the words, "Please God make my penis grow" on it. I think those are the places only a sadist would visit after leaving the house and being told how you've been perceived by a large percentage of the BB audience.

Shelly and Jordan have talked, with Shelly mostly defending her actions and Jordan mostly apologising for what happened between them. Shelly's laying it on thick to be more sympathetic, -pointing out that's she's probably going out this week. Of course, Shelly also told Porsche that she thinks she'll get more applause (from the audience on her way in to the studio) than anyone so far.

By the way, on AD Kalia said to Porsche her stipend would be $8000; she was figuring with the extra 5K she got from Pandora's Box she would leave the house with 13K.

Transcript (not 100% accurate but close) of Shelly-Jordo conversation dealing with the betrayal: Part 1 and Part 2.

They talked for a good hour and Shelly lied and lied to Jordan's face repeteadly; Jordo was polite but she wasn't buying what Shelly was selling. It's going to be a predictable week left for the feeders and "After Dark," but the climax on Thursday night will be worth it.

I think it would be no big deals if it was just some fat middle aged women in love with Jeff on the internet calling her names or making facebook hate groups cause after all 99.9% of the public will not remember what these people look like a week after the show is over but people in The Nerd Herd in season 6 legit had obsessive Janelle fans harass their work and do some stalky stuff to their personal life I think her vote of Big Jeff will lead to the same kind of stuff in store for her.

BIG BROTHER Shelly's Family Receives Death Threats Over Jeff's Eviction
http://www.tmz.com/2011/08/28/big-br.../#.TlqKjusimUM

And I thought sports fans were deranged for beating each other up over some team. This is beyond asinine and I hope they do find these jerks. They should have a show where they put these morans on tv for public ridicule.

I thought that's what Big Brother was?

Per Jokers:

5:21PM Porsche/Kalia are talking in the hoh room about now wanting Shelly out...They don't think it is worth it anymore to try to convince Jordan/Rachel to keep Shelly. They think Shelly goes back and forth too much and they can't trust her word. So they think that they should just let her be voted out.

Shelly traded an alliance that was ready to dump her after 55 days for one that bails on her in one weekend. Way to go Shell!

And I guess we owe Porsche an apology for asuming she was dumb-enough to pair Rachel and Jordan together this week. Partners chose themselves, which means Rachel and Jordan would have always paired together no matter what. Basically the moment the 'doubles twist' from Pandora's Box was unleashed Shelly's goose was cooked; only Porsche not opening PD would have saved her, and for the life of me I still don't get why she did it. Then again, I wasn't locked in the "BB" house for 55 days (40 of which I slept around and did nothing) with my mind warped by the 24/7 cabin fever the show creates.

Keep in mind these guys are constantly pumping themselves up with talk of "special powers" and Prizes. By the same token, Shelly got the electronic fortune teller to work and fiddled around with it for hours hoping it would grant her some power that might get her out of the cross-hairs.

Going back to today's talk between Shelly and Jordan, I guess there are two ways the producers can play it: They can put some music there and make it a sentimental reconciliation (which they might think about if this death threat stuff has any weight to it), or they could cut in flashbacks showing the "truth" of what they're saying.

If Allison took the death threats more seriously than ratings, they would have toned things down tonight. I mean, you really couldn't have given the rabid fans of reality tv, in this case people who seem all-consumed with Je/Jo, any more red meat than they served up tonight. Shelley was made into a über villain tonight. They literally showed every single thing they could have to make Shelley look like a rat and not someone who just made a game decision. Hopefully, just the fact that it's probably gotten out that Jordan is staying and Shelley is leaving will calm all the crazy stuff down.

Shelley did make it personal, though, which was a big mistake. The talk all season of how much she cared for Jeff and Jordan is what made it worse than your typical stabbing someone in the back game-play that we are all used to seeing. And Shelley's constant talk of how much it hurt her too shows me that there isn't a big difference between Rachel crazy and Shelley crazy.

What's the difference between Porsche and a pet rock? Really, way to go Allison for casting someone just because they are friends with Janelle.

The sad thing is that Shelly gave them so much material that they could have made her edit a lot worse. They still haven't touched on her stealing Rachel's stuffed dog that was a gift from Brendon. That's wasn't for any game reason or playful reason either. She's just kind of vile. Daniele told Rachel that Shelly took it, but she's denied denied denied everytime Rachel's talked to her about it.

Rachel even gave up on Thursday and just pleaded for her to give it back or put in the storage room or whatever. Shelly still denies and then goes upstairs and laughs at and cusses out Rachel with Kalia and their pet rock.

The crowd will want to boo when Shelley comes out, but they will be instructed to clap. They'll do anything to choose people who will behave too, so Shelley will still have a good bit of time to wait before she realizes that the reaction to her is so bad and that she deserves the reaction she's getting (minus the the death threats and harassment). The only person happy with Shelley's behavior must be Natalie. She's no longer going to have the title of most-hated BB player ever.

She even talked about how she ought to cut the dog up in pieces and leave parts of it all over the house for Rachel to find. Way to model great behavior, Shelly! She keeps talking about how the others are acting like 5-year olds but she is much too mature to respond on their level.. Haaa! Can't wait til she gets home and watches herself.. all that video that she thinks is going to vindicate her...

Nah, even Shelly's not that bad. Natalie was really something to behold, though to be fair Michele turning absolutely bat shit after season 11 has taken some of the sting out of how Natalie treated her.

Well, we could have a whole 'nother thread if we're going to talk about these people outside of the game. Michele definitely is one gross, pathetic thing now and I guess what you are in real life certainly says a lot more about who you are. I wonder how many people even know that, though. Like I've said, the vast majority of BB fans forget almost as soon as the season's over. It's an incredibly small amount who'd actually call Shelley's work to get her fired or social services to have her child taken away.

You are well aware of how poorly I recall specifics of past seasons, but I don't remember even Natalie being this evil. A lot of that is based on things you've pointed out that I knew nothing about, because I can't follow things as closely anymore. I did finally add Showtime, only because the twist sets up a chance for Jordan or Rachel winning or at least being in the final 2.

I have to say, though, no matter how much I like Jordan, and even with all this drama, I skimmed through that full 3 hours REALLY quickly. It was incredibly dull. Watching through that was when I thought of Porsche being like a pet rock, because it was the 1st time I'd seen her for a long period of time. I WANTED to like her more. I WANTED her to be more interesting and I desperately wanted to see her as sexy, like I thought she might be when they all went in the house, but I didn't like her more, she isn't interesting at all, and she's not even particularly attractive.

Not that I think the pet rock would have done anything, but why they didn't cast an actually hot guy who might have been interested in her large breasts, but this season didn't even really have ANY possibility of hook ups. Dom was/is a boy and Dani was bored.

^^^ Why do you think Adam was cast on the show?

Supposedly, this is a transcript of Adam speaking to the camera in the BY (late at night) expressing his thoughts on what he'd do:

Last night 2:12 AM - After leaving the HOH room, Adam comes outside for a smoke and talks to the cameras
08/29/11 11:26 AM

"Oh what another interesting day in the Big Brother house.
Once again I'm making deals with everybody. I've got my newbie alliance with Porsche/Kalia, going back to my veteran alliance with Jordan/Rachel, so far, still here.
I really need Rachel and Jordan to keep me. If they do and I win HOH next week, I have to piss somebody off.
Now I know I need to win HOHs so I can prove my worth to somebody, but here's the thing.
If I win HOH, and I keep Jordan and Rachel safe...I gotta keep Porsche safe, I'd have to get rid of Kalia. Because I need to sit next to Porsche at the finals, that is the only way...well, not the ONLY way, but...
If I piss off Porsche and Kalia and they're in the jury house with Dani and Shelly, would they vote for me? Over Rachel or Jordan? Over Rachel, yes, they would vote for me, but they are gonna be hurt that I turned my back on them. They told me don't make any deals, but now they want me to "say what I gotta say" and then break deals.
Ooh what have I gotten myself into here? Final 6, possibly final 5...people might not respect my game, bottom line. But I'm doing what I gotta do to get by, until you live in this house you don't know.
This isn't a house, this is a f*cking BUS DEPOT. There are 14 bus drivers in this house. But I've done well, I've done well.
I need to win HOH AND veto next week. And then I can have Rachel and Kalia on the block. Let them split their votes, I'd piss everyone off and be the biggest target the following week. And then win veto that week, then I'd definitely....
Alright, let's go through it."

He begins studying past competitions and votes, then goes inside to brush his teeth.

anyone getting naked on this after dark show?

The closest was when Kalia was HOH a few weeks ago and the camera got a lovely shot of her in the HOH tub using her razor on her... you know... area... And of course there's Adam being shirtless in the tub last night.

BTW, the deed's done. POV Ceremony happened and Shelly/Adam are on the block.

Porsche, from everything I've seen, actually covers her paid for, giant boobs and not only doesn't show them off much, but wears things were you don't even see cleavage. So, to go along with her pet rock personality, the no possibility of hook-ups, she really doesn't even show as much boob as Jordan-and Jordan is not there to be the summer slut by a long shot.

I can't imagine Allison expected this out of Porsche considering what she does for a living, her deep desire, at least according to her what I've heard she's said, to make an impression on tv, and that she was good friends with Janelle.

If Porsche is expecting something to pop up in show business or anything else that comes with being a reality "star" I think she's going to be very disappointed.

Jordan appears to be making a final 3 deal with Adam.

If Rachel or Jordan don't win next week, do you think they'll let Rachel's fetus have a vote?

Not that I've ever kept it a secret that I root for Jordan, but I actually want her to win, or at least finish 2nd, now probably more just because she really didn't want to come on BB and did so to be with Jeff and so that he could win this time around.

For her to win twice or get a 1st or 2nd, while Jeff once again can only win the vote of the lonely housewives (and it's probably possible he could lose this season, not likely but possible), would be more entertaining than the actual season.

I thought it was funny when he told Julie he only came on the show because Jordan wanted him to.

And yeah, his ego will be really smarting if Jordan pulls in more cash.