Lost -- "What They Died For" -- 18.05.10
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Re: Lost -- "What They Died For" -- 18.05.10
So he can be with his true love, Penny. They have a collective purpose together...perhaps for the same reason they all had to be on Ajira. For some reason they all work together as a whole. Maybe Desmond can't have what he wants unless he helps everybody else get what they need.
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Re: Lost -- "What They Died For" -- 18.05.10
1.) Ben claimed to have gotten "all those lists" from Jacob, but he admited he NEVER got one in person. Widmore could have the list via Eloise who seems to know more about whats going on than anyone, including Jacob.
2.) Jacob having knowledge that Widmore was coming doesnt mean he did or did not help him get there.
2.) Jacob having knowledge that Widmore was coming doesnt mean he did or did not help him get there.
and it's not much reason for widmore to make up a story and then die...that would be silly writing in the next to last episode
#178
Re: Lost -- "What They Died For" -- 18.05.10
So I guess the big Question mark on the blast door map must be were the Cave Light is.
#179
Re: Lost -- "What They Died For" -- 18.05.10
Again, in regards to the separate realities question: Look how JJ Abrams ended Felicity.
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Re: Lost -- "What They Died For" -- 18.05.10
Let's be honest though. The story that they're choosing to wrap up could have been told in one, max 2 seasons. The whole Dharma/Widmore/Linus/Others storyline has been thrown out.
They spent a whole season trying to get into a hatch, another season pushing a button and blowing up said hatch (all the while teasing us with the mysterious other stations), one season trying to get off the island, another trying to get back.
Like you said they threw a lot of shit against the wall and it's a little disappointing that they choose what they did to give us a resolution to.
They spent a whole season trying to get into a hatch, another season pushing a button and blowing up said hatch (all the while teasing us with the mysterious other stations), one season trying to get off the island, another trying to get back.
Like you said they threw a lot of shit against the wall and it's a little disappointing that they choose what they did to give us a resolution to.
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Re: Lost -- "What They Died For" -- 18.05.10
Only after an episode long of a trial and flash back scenes as past characters testify against him. Final scene: Desmond in jail complaining about Jack's button.
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Re: Lost -- "What They Died For" -- 18.05.10
In a way. I think that's part of the lies of the lives they are leading in the sideways flashes, though. They certainly made another point to show Jack's scar he got when the bomb went off. They are driving the point in front of us that even though the sideways stuff is in the "past" the characters bear the scars of something that happened in the "future."
Again, in regards to the separate realities question: Look how JJ Abrams ended Felicity.
Again, in regards to the separate realities question: Look how JJ Abrams ended Felicity.

You'll have to put that in spoilers for me, as I missed it.
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Re: Lost -- "What They Died For" -- 18.05.10
Let's be honest though. The story that they're choosing to wrap up could have been told in one, max 2 seasons. The whole Dharma/Widmore/Linus/Others storyline has been thrown out.
They spent a whole season trying to get into a hatch, another season pushing a button and blowing up said hatch (all the while teasing us with the mysterious other stations), one season trying to get off the island, another trying to get back.
Like you said they threw a lot of shit against the wall and it's a little disappointing that they choose what they did to give us a resolution to.
They spent a whole season trying to get into a hatch, another season pushing a button and blowing up said hatch (all the while teasing us with the mysterious other stations), one season trying to get off the island, another trying to get back.
Like you said they threw a lot of shit against the wall and it's a little disappointing that they choose what they did to give us a resolution to.
Also, I don't see how rewatching this series from the beginning can be anything other than a monumental chore given what we know now.
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Re: Lost -- "What They Died For" -- 18.05.10
great episode tonight. I have a hard time accepting richard is dead... next to desmond and hurley he's arguably the most popular character on the show.
pre-emptive "can't wait!" for the finale.
pre-emptive "can't wait!" for the finale.
#186
Re: Lost -- "What They Died For" -- 18.05.10
To those of you thinking the two timelines will merge in a literal sense (as opposed to a mental state merging as we saw with past Desmond and future Desmond in the Contant) I am curious to know how that would be a satisfactory ending? It would amount to the sideways stuff meaning nothing at all and the Losties would be stuck on the island with memories of their time in alt-2004 where they were free of Jacob's influence and living somewhat happy lives, or at least as happy as somebody can be in the real world without the island and Jacob's influence.
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Re: Lost -- "What They Died For" -- 18.05.10
To those of you thinking the two timelines will merge in a literal sense (as opposed to a mental state merging as we saw with past Desmond and future Desmond in the Contant) I am curious to know how that would be a satisfactory ending? It would amount to the sideways stuff meaning nothing at all and the Losties would be stuck on the island with memories of their time in alt-2004 where they were free of Jacob's influence and living somewhat happy lives, or at least as happy as somebody can be in the real world without the island and Jacob's influence.
Personally, I try not to think too much about it, but if I had to formulate a thought it would be that they are separate impactful realities. Guess we'll see soon enough.
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Re: Lost -- "What They Died For" -- 18.05.10
I'm fairly new to this show (just in the last 9-10 months) and this show just keeps getting better and better as far as I'm concerned. No chore about it.
#195
Re: Lost -- "What They Died For" -- 18.05.10
Here's another theory: what if David is MIB? Think about it for a minute...we never got his name maybe because we would get the reveal later on: DAVID. Genetically he will be Jack's and Juliet's kid and MIB inhabits him some how. It's out of left field...the idea isn't really concrete and thought out yet. He just wants to leave...he's not that evil. Off the wall...but I wanted to put it out there. It makes more sense to me than Aaron being MIB. Obviously there are those of you who think MIB will be a kid off island...so why not David?
#196
Re: Lost -- "What They Died For" -- 18.05.10
I personally think it would be a great ending...I am not sure why so many seem opposed to it. It beats the hell out of them stuck on the island remembering the sideways flashes and not being able to do a damn thing about it. Now that would suck.
How do you want it to end?
How do you want it to end?
#197
Re: Lost -- "What They Died For" -- 18.05.10
The creators of the show like to screw with our minds...I just don't think in the last hours of this series they are going to pull a two realities type thing on us where it's like a Star Trek Mirror Universe or something. They are answering questions (sort of!)...not setting us up for more mysteries. They established the rules for the game already...why the change now?
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Re: Lost -- "What They Died For" -- 18.05.10
I can't wait for the complete series because I hear it will have a bonus disc that will have an apology from the writers for telling us they knew what they were doing from the beginning.




