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Old 01-12-10 | 12:16 PM
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Re: Report: NBC to Cancel LENO?

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My guess is that Smeigl probably owns the rights to the character, but that is an interesting question.
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Old 01-12-10 | 12:49 PM
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Re: Report: NBC to Cancel LENO?

Originally Posted by Double_Oh_7
Because he is a walking punchline. The guy isn't even in the same league as Dave, Conan... or Jay.
I do like his format though.
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Old 01-12-10 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
I do like his format though.
Same here.

What's weird to me though about Carson is that he was an OK/slightly above average host when he did TRL. When he switched over to NBC it just seems he lost all skill.
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Old 01-12-10 | 01:02 PM
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Re: Report: NBC to Cancel LENO?

Originally Posted by Match
was thinking about this. No matter who goes where at the same time slot, Jay may end up being in first place (maybe), Letterman in 2nd and Conan in 3rd.
I wouldn't bet on this. As I was telling my wife last night after the first round of this crap with Leno and Letterman who really knew what went on? But now what are the odds the same thing is happening again with one of the same players as before? This situation really show that Jay is the grade A Jack Ass. He will lose viewers because of it.

If he was a classy person he would just retire once NBC said they are gonna dump his show. It didn't work move on.
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Old 01-12-10 | 01:16 PM
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Re: Report: NBC to Cancel LENO?

Originally Posted by nightwing82
Same here.

What's weird to me though about Carson is that he was an OK/slightly above average host when he did TRL. When he switched over to NBC it just seems he lost all skill.
I came in late and thought you mean Johnny Carson. I could not think of anything but Total Request Live for what you could have meant with TRL. It was a funny image in my head.
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Old 01-12-10 | 01:20 PM
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Re: Report: NBC to Cancel LENO?

Originally Posted by leacha
This situation really show that Jay is the grade A Jack Ass. He will lose viewers because of it.

If he was a classy person he would just retire once NBC said they are gonna dump his show. It didn't work move on.
I really don't think he will lose viewers. The mainstream viewers like Jay. NBC is the screw-up in the situation (just look at their viewership post Seinfeld/Friends). Plus, with the contract, I don't think Jay can just retire. He is contracted for so many episodes for the Jay Leno Show and if NBC reschedules, they reschedule him.
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Old 01-12-10 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by pinata242
I came in late and thought you mean Johnny Carson. I could not think of anything but Total Request Live for what you could have meant with TRL. It was a funny image in my head.
Ah... the days when Ed Mcmahon would help Johnny usher in a new Britney Spears video lol
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Old 01-12-10 | 02:17 PM
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RT @TVMoJoe: CONAN: I don't want to do 12:05 Tonight Show. Breaking... 7 minutes ago from TweetDeck

This is gonna end in tears for someone. RT @TVMoJoe: Slightly more info... this one's developing. http://tinyurl.com/ydcgvl8
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http://www.deadline.com/hollywood/co...medium=twitter

People of Earth:

In the last few days, I've been getting a lot of sympathy calls, and I
want to start by making it clear that no one should waste a second
feeling sorry for me. For 17 years, I've been getting paid to do what I
love most and, in a world with real problems, I've been absurdly lucky.
That said, I've been suddenly put in a very public predicament and my
bosses are demanding an immediate decision.

Six years ago, I signed a contract with NBC to take over The Tonight
Show in June of 2009. Like a lot of us, I grew up watching Johnny Carson
every night and the chance to one day sit in that chair has meant
everything to me. I worked long and hard to get that opportunity, passed
up far more lucrative offers, and since 2004 I have spent literally
hundreds of hours thinking of ways to extend the franchise long into the
future. It was my mistaken belief that, like my predecessor, I would
have the benefit of some time and, just as important, some degree of
ratings support from the prime-time schedule. Building a lasting
audience at 11:30 is impossible without both.

But sadly, we were never given that chance. After only seven months,
with my Tonight Show in its infancy, NBC has decided to react to their
terrible difficulties in prime-time by making a change in their
long-established late night schedule.

Last Thursday, NBC executives told me they intended to move the Tonight
Show to 12:05 to accommodate the Jay Leno Show at 11:35. For 60 years
the Tonight Show has aired immediately following the late local news. I
sincerely believe that delaying the Tonight Show into the next day to
accommodate another comedy program will seriously damage what I consider
to be the greatest franchise in the history of broadcasting. The Tonight
Show at 12:05 simply isn't the Tonight Show. Also, if I accept this move
I will be knocking the Late Night show, which I inherited from David
Letterman and passed on to Jimmy Fallon, out of its long-held time slot.
That would hurt the other NBC franchise that I love, and it would be
unfair to Jimmy.

So it has come to this: I cannot express in words how much I enjoy
hosting this program and what an enormous personal disappointment it is
for me to consider losing it. My staff and I have worked unbelievably
hard and we are very proud of our contribution to the legacy of The
Tonight Show. But I cannot participate in what I honestly believe is its
destruction. Some people will make the argument that with DVRs and the
Internet a time slot doesn't matter. But with the Tonight Show, I
believe nothing could matter more.

There has been speculation about my going to another network but, to set
the record straight, I currently have no other offer and honestly have
no idea what happens next. My hope is that NBC and I can resolve this
quickly so that my staff, crew, and I can do a show we can be proud of,
for a company that values our work.

Have a great day and, for the record, I am truly sorry about my hair;
it's always been that way.

Yours,
Conan
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Re: Report: NBC to Cancel LENO?

I agree with Conan 100%.
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Old 01-12-10 | 02:37 PM
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Re: Report: NBC to Cancel LENO?

I'm glad he mentioned his hair. That's been on my mind.
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Old 01-12-10 | 02:38 PM
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Re: Report: NBC to Cancel LENO?

Originally Posted by devilshalo
I agree with Conan 100%.
Agreed -- he issued a solid statement that is hard to argue with.
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Old 01-12-10 | 02:40 PM
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Re: Report: NBC to Cancel LENO?

Conan is a true class act.

The right thing for Jay to do, IMO, would be to become what Bob Hope was for NBC in the 70s and 80s. Show up 3-5 times a year to do a comedy special, maybe pop up as a guest on the Tonight Show from time to time, but otherwise stay off the air. Do stand-up, produce things, whatever, but Jay needs to realize that his time as a nightly TV presence is over. It's not entirely fair to him -- he got pushed off the Tonight Show because NBC wanted to keep Conan -- but it's the way it is.
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Old 01-12-10 | 02:42 PM
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Re: Report: NBC to Cancel LENO?

Originally Posted by JasonF
It's not entirely fair to him -- he got pushed off the Tonight Show.
Karma/payback is a bitch after what he did to Carson and Letterman. He deserves whatever comes his way.
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Old 01-12-10 | 02:44 PM
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Re: Report: NBC to Cancel LENO?

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Old 01-12-10 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Michael Ballack
Karma/payback is a bitch after what he did to Carson and Letterman. He deserves whatever comes his way.
What did he do? I'm fairly ignorant when it comes to the talk show wars.
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NBC needs to suck it up and 1) let Leno go and 2) stop with this plug and play mess they've done with it's line up and learn to stick it out with new shows. What the fuck, did the executives go to the Vince McMahon school of programming? I can't believe a network turning into a wrestling promotion.
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Old 01-12-10 | 02:48 PM
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I ordered some Conan shot glasses last night. Sounds like I might have a use for them soon if NBC can't get their shit straight.

If we lose Conan because of this, I will never forgive NBC.
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Old 01-12-10 | 02:48 PM
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Re: Report: NBC to Cancel LENO?

Originally Posted by devilshalo
NBC needs to suck it up and 1) let Leno go and 2) stop with this plug and play mess they've done with it's line up and learn to stick it out with new shows. What the fuck, did the executives go to the Vince McMahon school of programming? I can't believe a network turning into a wrestling promotion.
That brings up a great point. Bring back Tuesday Night Titans hosted by Vince McMahon. Don't know what you'd do the other four nights a week though...
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Old 01-12-10 | 02:53 PM
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Loved Conan's response!

Originally Posted by Michael Ballack
Karma/payback is a bitch after what he did to Carson and Letterman. He deserves whatever comes his way.
Oh boo hoo that Dave had to go to CBS and have success. His career certainly wasn't destroyed by not getting the Tonight Show from Carson.
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Old 01-12-10 | 02:57 PM
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Re: Report: NBC to Cancel LENO?

That's an irrefutable, tactfully aggressive press release. Way to go, Conan.
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Old 01-12-10 | 02:58 PM
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Re: Report: NBC to Cancel LENO?

Originally Posted by JasonF
It's not entirely fair to him -- he got pushed off the Tonight Show because NBC wanted to keep Conan -- but it's the way it is.
Maybe, but he signed his contract how many years ago? He had 6 years to come to terms with it, and go out on top. Instead he destroyed NBC at 10 and gets rewarded with his old show back.
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Old 01-12-10 | 03:01 PM
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Re: Report: NBC to Cancel LENO?

I'd say that I would boycott NBC because of this, but realistically I'm not giving up their Thursday night line-up.

So NBC is getting a six night boycott from me! Feel my wrath!
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Old 01-12-10 | 03:02 PM
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Maybe, but he signed his contract how many years ago? He had 6 years to come to terms with it, and go out on top. Instead he destroyed NBC at 10 and gets rewarded with his old show back.
Well, NBC didn't have to give him a 10 pm show. They could've let him go and do whatever he wanted to do. But they realized that Leno was still getting huge ratings and the network couldn't come to terms with losing him.
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Old 01-12-10 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by majorjoe23
So NBC is getting a six night boycott from me! Feel my wrath!
Wouldn't do me any good. I've been inadvertently doing this for quite some time now (Conan on Hulu).
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