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Old 01-10-10 | 07:43 PM
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Re: Report: NBC to Cancel LENO?

Originally Posted by naitram
Conan should move to ABC and go up against Jay and Dave both, and move Kimmel up right behind him. Nobody watches Nightline anyway.

and Fox can suck it.
Nightline has beaten Conan every week for 28 weeks now.

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/...ngs_148336.asp
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Old 01-10-10 | 08:08 PM
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Re: Report: NBC to Cancel LENO?

Originally Posted by naitram
Conan should move to ABC and go up against Jay and Dave both, and move Kimmel up right behind him. Nobody watches Nightline anyway.

and Fox can suck it.
I like the way this guy thinks.
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Old 01-10-10 | 10:15 PM
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Re: Report: NBC to Cancel LENO?

Originally Posted by wm lopez
That's not it. It's that NBC has Obama's back. There is an agenda at play here and that over rides everything.
What's your sourse?
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Old 01-10-10 | 10:36 PM
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Re: Report: NBC to Cancel LENO?

THIS IS NOT A POLITICAL THREAD, KEEP THE DISCUSSION ON TOPIC!!!
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Re: Report: NBC to Cancel LENO?

Originally Posted by BravesMG
Leno at 10pm officially canceled: http://www.deadline.com/hollywood/nb...e-a-done-deal/.

They sound so freaking stupid saying that it met expectations but ran into problems with the affiliates. If it met expectations how dumb do you have to be to produce expected results and still fail?

My fellow Americans, our long national nightmare is over....
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Re: Report: NBC to Cancel LENO?

Originally Posted by wm lopez
That's not it. It's that NBC has Obama's back. There is an agenda at play here and that over rides everything.
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Old 01-11-10 | 10:33 AM
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http://www.nypost.com/p/news/nationa...5MI5Pv8udof1LJ

(Some of it is repeat information)

The "Tonight Show" host feels like the redheaded stepchild of late-night TV after NBC's abrupt decision to cancel Jay Leno's 10 p.m. experiment after just five months -- and return the car-loving comic to O'Brien's coveted 11:35 p.m. slot.

"This level of sh- - -iness was not expected," one source said.

"He's done a great job for NBC. He moved his entire staff, he moved his family to LA. And five months later, they repay him like this?"

As it stands now, the source said, "Conan would be happier somewhere else."

The pompadoured host has "many options," including a move to Fox, which for years has been looking to create its own late-night show.

In fact, he has already spoken with Fox, The Wall Street Journal's Web site reported last night.

NBC yesterday said Leno's 10 p.m. talk show would end on Feb. 11, with the start of the Winter Olympics.

Network Chairman Jeff Gaspin confirmed that he was pushing a new late-night arrangement: Leno at 11:35 p.m., hosting a half-hour show, and Conan at 12:05 a.m. hosting the one-hour "The Tonight Show."

Jimmy Fallon's "Late Night" would then be pushed back to the remarkably late -- or super early -- hour of 1:05 a.m.

"My goal is to keep Jay, Conan and Jimmy as our late-night lineup," Gaspin said.

He characterized the plan as a "compromise" that gives Leno what he wants -- his old time slot back -- and lets Conan keep the title of "Tonight Show" host.

"I hope and expect that before the Winter Olympics begin, we will have everything set," Gaspin said.

"I can't imagine we won't have everything set by then."

He added that all three hosts had been given the weekend to think about the changes.

But Conan, an insider said, "may not be operating on their timetable. He's not going to be stampeded. This came out of the blue, and it will take him a while to figure out what's best for him."

O'Brien rep Leslee Dart last night said only that "Conan has made no decisions yet."

The real-life soap opera involving NBC's late-night personalities has been comic gold for others in the business.

NBC's "Saturday Night Live" poked fun at the suits at 30 Rock during Seth Meyer's "Weekend Update" segment.

"It was reported Thursday that in the wake of poor ratings for 'The Jay Leno Show,' NBC will move his show back to the 11:35 time slot, and then start Conan O'Brien's 'Tonight Show' at midnight -- though it's a little weird to start 'The Tonight Show' at a time when it's no longer 'tonight,' " Meyers said.

Peacock executives have been fighting a losing, two-front war since giving O'Brien the "Tonight" job. Not only has Leno's 10 p.m. show been weak, but CBS's "Late Show with David Letterman" has consistently been beating O'Brien.

In the 10 p.m. slot, NBC had nothing in development worth investing the millions it would take to rush to the air. So it created a 10 p.m. show for Leno, without spending much money.

But "The Jay Leno Show" -- while profitable -- didn't attract enough viewers to satisfy NBC affiliates left holding the bag with an ineffective lead-in to their 11 p.m. newscasts.

The news shows are usually the biggest moneymakers for local stations, and Gaspin said those affiliates demanded more traditional programs be put back in place.

"I would have liked nothing more than to give this a 52-week try," said Gaspin, who insisted that Leno eventually would have been a hit at 10 p.m.

"I think, over time, it would have started to grow."

Gaspin said he feared more than a handful of affiliates were going to revolt by either dumping "Leno" or going public with complaints.

"I asked them [the affiliates] how many are they talking about, because I could have lived with one or two. But I got the sense that it was more than one or two," he said.

Comedy legend -- and close Leno pal -- Jerry Seinfeld took the side of NBC and Leno.

"What did the network do to Conan? I don't think anyone's preventing people from watching Conan," he said during an appearance to hype his new NBC show, "The Marriage Ref."

Gaspin pledged that the network was going "back to basics" and would fill the 10 p.m. hour with dramas, including a new version of "Law & Order," set in LA. (See TV, Page 79.)
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Old 01-11-10 | 10:42 AM
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Re: Report: NBC to Cancel LENO?

Don't cry for Conan. He got a 28 million dollar deal to move to LA. I have a friend who had to move to LA because All My Children was moving from NY to LA. He certainly didnt get 28 mil to move.

He can always opt out and sign a big deal with Fox. He'll get his money either way.

Look, Conan's ratings sucked. NBC had to do something.
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Old 01-11-10 | 10:47 AM
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Re: Report: NBC to Cancel LENO?

[QUOTE=siddd5;9936474
Look, Conan's ratings sucked. NBC had to do something.[/QUOTE]

And so did Leno when he took over. Look, it takes time. NBC gave Leno 18 months and they gave Conan 7 (though he still had to deal with Leno).
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Old 01-11-10 | 03:42 PM
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Re: Report: NBC to Cancel LENO?

Conan needs to bribe Hugh Grant to pick up another hooker...
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Old 01-11-10 | 04:05 PM
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Re: Report: NBC to Cancel LENO?

Originally Posted by mcfly
Like 99.9% of his posts.
You're telling me that 1 in 1,000 posts of his actually makes sense? That, my friend, makes less sense than his posts!
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Old 01-11-10 | 04:13 PM
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Re: Report: NBC to Cancel LENO?

Nikki Finke has some information on pilots that NBC is considering. This includes two remakes ("Prime Suspect" and "The Rockford Files"), a J.J. Abrams/Josh Reims (of Dirty Sexy Money) spy couple thriller, another Bruckenheimer police procedural ("Chase"), and a David E. Kelley "I just like to write about lawyers" law drama.

http://www.deadline.com/hollywood/nb...ed/#more-21870
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Old 01-11-10 | 04:17 PM
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Re: Report: NBC to Cancel LENO?

Originally Posted by CreamyGoodness
My fellow Americans, our long national nightmare is over....
Yeah. Front page news on the LA Times and one of the lead stories on the major local stations. This is such important news in the grand scheme of things?

(Pete Carroll quitting his USC job was the breaking news story the next night...)
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Old 01-11-10 | 04:25 PM
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Re: Report: NBC to Cancel LENO?

If it gets Leno his old job back and dumps Conan, I would say our nightmare is just beginning.
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Old 01-11-10 | 05:32 PM
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Re: Report: NBC to Cancel LENO?

After that whole mess with Jay and Dave once Carson left, who would have ever guessed the next time hosts changed it would be another spectacularly juicy train wreck? Is this what we now get to look forward to every 15 years or so?

And although everyone thinks NBC is the one that screwed this up royally, isn't Leno the one who announced his retirement and then changed his mind? Isn't it technically all his fault for pulling a stunt like that?
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Old 01-11-10 | 05:37 PM
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And although everyone thinks NBC is the one that screwed this up royally, isn't Leno the one who announced his retirement and then changed his mind? Isn't it technically all his fault for pulling a stunt like that?
Yes and No. Leno was basically forced out of the Tonight Show in order to keep Conan from jumping ship in 2004. Leno was on top and shouldn't have left until he was ready or the ratings fell. BUT Leno did agree to this in 2004, so really he should be the one let go, not putting Conan in this strange situation.

I think NBC are more afraid of Leno going to Fox than Conan. Leno has ruled the 11:35 time slot before, Conan has not. The question is whether viewers will return to Leno at 11:30, or even watch him on Fox at all.
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Old 01-11-10 | 06:46 PM
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Re: Report: NBC to Cancel LENO?

Patton Oswald on why Leno sucks. He says it perfectly:
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Old 01-11-10 | 07:13 PM
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Norm nailed it a year ago.

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Old 01-11-10 | 10:50 PM
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Re: Report: NBC to Cancel LENO?

Conan has come out w/ guns a blazing tonight.
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Old 01-11-10 | 10:52 PM
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Re: Report: NBC to Cancel LENO?

Originally Posted by B.A.
Conan has come out w/ guns a blazing tonight.
What's he saying?
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Old 01-11-10 | 10:54 PM
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Re: Report: NBC to Cancel LENO?

Originally Posted by mcfly
What's he saying?
He's made remarks about the money and taken some shots at Jay.
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Old 01-11-10 | 11:18 PM
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Monologue online:

http://tv.gawker.com/5445941/
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Old 01-11-10 | 11:33 PM
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^^That was awesome.
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Old 01-11-10 | 11:38 PM
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Indeed.

Evidently, Letterman's also in on it tonight, but I won't be able to watch until tomorrow (following Twitter now).
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Old 01-11-10 | 11:41 PM
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Maybe over the Olympics break, Letterman can invite Conan on as a guest, so they can both vent about how both Leno and NBC screwed them over.
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