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All the HGs had a chance to find the key before Jeff but the producers may have preplanned to change the prize depending who would find the key. Since the prize was not announced in advance, they can get away with this and make it look like it was the same prize no matter which HG found the key.
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Quote: All the HGs had a chance to find the key before Jeff but the producers may have preplanned to change the prize depending who would find the key. Since the prize was not announced in advance, they can get away with this and make it look like it was the same prize no matter which HG found the key.
For fucks sake. If anybody really thinks this shit I'd like to know why they would continue to watch the show. Seriously.
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Quote: For fucks sake. If anybody really thinks this shit I'd like to know why they would continue to watch the show. Seriously.
I just don't believe it's going to happen. Jeff might get something for finding the key, but he's not going to get that power. No way.

I would think Jeff would send Michele home and she just SAVED HERSELF.

Jeff would want to kick out Kevin, but couldn't and Jordan loves Nat now and Jeff sees Nat as useless in comps and Michele and Kevin are "threats" so he'd have to get rid of the threat.

If Jeff stays and Michele goes, I will NEVER watch BB again.
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Well that key excitement was a whole lot of nothing. As expected.

I'm unsure how no one has just punched Natalie in the face by now. For real.
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Why don't they just cut the show short and give Jeff the prize? It seems that is pretty much what they want to happen.

A prize to guarantee someone moving to the final two? Ridiculous. Pretty convenient to have that prize during a week that looked to have Jeff going to the Jury House.

I'm pulling for Michelle.. But I think this "prize" and the diamond veto are going to make it very hard for her. She'll have everyone basically playing against her for any future HoH or Vetos. Not that she hasn't thus far, but until this twist it had looked like the strongest player left was going to be gone this week and make one less person playing against her.
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Quote: Why don't they just cut the show short and give Jeff the prize? It seems that is pretty much what they want to happen.

A prize to guarantee someone moving to the final two? Ridiculous. Pretty convenient to have that prize during a week that looked to have Jeff going to the Jury House.

I'm pulling for Michelle.. But I think this "prize" and the diamond veto are going to make it very hard for her. She'll have everyone basically playing against her for any future HoH or Vetos. Not that she hasn't thus far, but until this twist it had looked like the strongest player left was going to be gone this week and make one less person playing against her.
I guess you missed last night's show. The "twist" was not a twist at all. There is no diamond veto and Jeff will be leaving this week.
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If I were jeff I would have destroyed the key and gone to finish collecting money. I can't believe he let Kevin out.
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Quote: If I were jeff I would have destroyed the key and gone to finish collecting money. I can't believe he let Kevin out.
The only thing I can come up with about the key is that, although he didn't know it and was just bs-ing to get released, maybe BB wouldn't have let them keep the cash if no one let Kevin out.

The whole thing was pretty stupid. Fun to watch, but the "power" part of the whole key experience was stupid and never even explained fully.
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Here is the latest speculation from BB fans. If you notice the poster hanging on the door leading to the Pandora's box, it is a sketch of a person with a question mark. Now that the HOH has opened the Pandora's box, they have to face some consequences. On Thursday, after Jeff is evicted the remaining HGs will get a choice to bring back Jeff or an unknown past HG.

And people are guessing it is Russell because if you watch the opening credits during the Tuesday broadcast, they showed Russell's picture in color and showed his name. It seems in the opening credits, normally BB show the evicted HGs in B&W with a video of the HGs walking out of the house and they do not name them, and for the current HGs BB normally show a still picture in color and name them. On Sunday's broadcast, the pictures were shown correctly. (I never watch the BB credits because I fast forward it on the DVR.)
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Quote: Here is the latest speculation from BB fans. If you notice the poster hanging on the door leading to the Pandora's box, it is a sketch of a person with a question mark. Now that the HOH has opened the Pandora's box, they have to face some consequences. On Thursday, after Jeff is evicted the remaining HGs will get a choice to bring back Jeff or an unknown past HG.

And people are guessing it is Russell because if you watch the opening credits during the Tuesday broadcast, they showed Russell's picture in color and showed his name. It seems in the opening credits, normally BB show the evicted HGs in B&W with a video of the HGs walking out of the house and they do not name them, and for the current HGs BB normally show a still picture in color and name them. On Sunday's broadcast, the pictures were shown correctly. (I never watch the BB credits because I fast forward it on the DVR.)
Won't happen. Bringing anyone back into the final 4 is simply too much of an advantage for one side.

Right now, Michele and Jordon are going against Nat, but, at the same time, Nat clears wants Jordan in the final 2. Besides, just Jordan's stupidity alone makes things relatively even.

Michele says she wants Nat out, but will she change her mind if she gets power and sees Nat as no challenge in the final 3? Also, Michele knows Kevin would love to be sitting next to her at the end, so he's at risk but maybe not depending on a lot of variables and he always has POV just like Jeff did.

Nat is gunning for Michele, but if she wins HOH and Michele won POV, Kevin would go, which would also be good for her since she wants to go the end with Jordan.

Everything seems to be the way it should be, at least fairness wise. I still only want Michele to win, but everyone has a chance to get to the end now. Bringing someone back would mess that all up. Russell couldn't possibly do anything but make Michele even stronger, because he'd also want to get the end with her.

No one is coming back.
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It would've been so great if Jeff kept the key and refused to let Kevin out of the box. Who the hell cares about the stupid money. He had Kevin trapped and he just let him out. Stupid Fuck!
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Quote: It would've been so great if Jeff kept the key and refused to let Kevin out of the box. Who the hell cares about the stupid money. He had Kevin trapped and he just let him out. Stupid Fuck!
It's because Jeff is such an asshole. Oh wait.
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Natalie better not tell anyone else she's 24. What an embarrassment to the human race. Kevin better turn on her starting with this vote.
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We know Michelle has been trying to save Jeff despite he backstabbing her by eliminating Russell. But I still don't get it why Jeff is against Michelle. Is there something that the viewers don't know why all the HGs just don't trust her and dislike her so much.

I was watching Tuesday night's BBAD and Jeff and Jordan were on the hammock, while Kevin and Michelle were talking on the patio (far away) and the conversation went something like this:

Jordan: I think Michelle is making some deal with Kevin.
Jeff: Michelle is such a big liar. She is a bigger liar then Ronnie.
Jordan: Whom should I trust after you are gone, Michelle or Natalie?
Jeff: I will trust Natalie over Michelle any day. But if you want to win, take Michelle to the F2.
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^^
I think Jeff's opinion of Michele is skewed because he's too stupid to realize that Gnat has been lying to him about Michele. To this shining example of why the Nazis might have been right in trying to exterminate people of sub-human IQ, Gnat is good and honorable while Michele is a lying liar that lies.

IMO, his inability to think, his inability to see things below the surface, his inability to judge character, and his treatment of Michele has left Jeff in the same putrid league as Jesse and Chima. I can't believe I used to think highly of Jeff.

So long, putz. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
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Why did BB call Jeff and Jordan to the DR at the same time last night?
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Quote: Why did BB call Jeff and Jordan to the DR at the same time last night?
I would assume because the producers know it's J&J's last night together and they want to get some last minute cringe-worthy footage of the dumbest couple in America.
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I wish that they would do followup shows after each season and everyone watched what we saw and they might not have while in the house. I'd love for J&J to see how stupid they look and how awful they are for trashing Michelle like they are and believing people that are lying to them. Michelle might not have a good game face or ability to relate as well, but she hasn't done anything to deserve the treatment she's getting in the house.
I hope she does go all the way and win it. Everyone else I want to see walk out.
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Quote: ^^
To this shining example of why the Nazis might have been right in trying to exterminate people of sub-human IQ,
Nice. Stay classy! At this point making bullshit statements like this pretty much puts you in a position to have no right to judge anybody elses behavior or actions. This is pathetic. Hope you're proud.


My personal thoughts on the Michelle situation are a couple things. First, I think she has a hard time fitting in and relating to people. In this kind of game, that could be enough to put you on the outs from people. Secondly, she's a bad liar. Everyone lies in the house at some point, but some people do it better than others. Many times Michelle was asked stuff and gave a response of "I don't remember". I think in the house that's an instant signal that you're making shit up. It may be the truth that she doesn't remember, but in those situations you better come up with something or people will just side on the option of not believing you anyway.

Then add in the fact that Natalie is lying about everything, and everyone in the house is too stupid to compare notes and Jeff & Jordan are too stupid to not believe the person that has been against them the entire game till now and it's a bad combo for Michelle at the moment.

Although with Nat getting drunk two nights ago and everyone still thinking she's 18, the entire house deserves to lose for not using that to their advantage or make a big deal out of. Don't you think if you were there you would maybe ask a quick question in the DR about underage drinking in the house and the legality? They're all dumb.
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Quote: ^^
I think Jeff's opinion of Michele is skewed because he's too stupid to realize that Gnat has been lying to him about Michele. To this shining example of why the Nazis might have been right in trying to exterminate people of sub-human IQ, Gnat is good and honorable while Michele is a lying liar that lies.
what the everloving fuck?
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Quote: Nice. Stay classy! At this point making bullshit statements like this pretty much puts you in a position to have no right to judge anybody elses behavior or actions. This is pathetic. Hope you're proud.
Wow, people, relax. I really thought most of you would have the good sense not to take an exaggerated over-the-top statement like that too seriously.
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It seems the $10K that dropped from the sky is the $10K that Russell had to give up to get a shot at coming back in the BB house. Remember Russell won that $10K as a prize in a luxury competition.

Natalie is planning to ask Jeff to give his Hawaii trip prize and Michelle the home theater prize in exchange for voting to keep Jeff. She is checking with the producers to see if she can still keep their prizes because she wants to vote out Jeff. Another new low with Natalie. It seems like even the BB producers had not thought about these backstabbing scheme when they wrote the BB rule book. So they do not have the answers to her questions and have to move up the CBS food chain to get a clarification to see if she can do this.
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Quote: It seems the $10K that dropped from the sky is the $10K that Russell had to give up to get a shot at coming back in the BB house. Remember Russell won that $10K as a prize in a luxury competition.

Natalie is planning to ask Jeff to give his Hawaii trip prize and Michelle the home theater prize in exchange for voting to keep Jeff. She is checking with the producers to see if she can still keep their prizes because she wants to vote out Jeff. Another new low with Natalie. It seems like even the BB producers had not thought about these backstabbing scheme when they wrote the BB rule book. So they do not have the answers to her questions and have to move up the CBS food chain to get a clarification to see if she can do this.
I haven't check my feeds since this was originally being talked about yesterday. I would have to think the answer should be no. Of course, BB would love to keep Jeff and Jordan, so why not break some more "rules" if they think people will be ok with it.

You are, technically not allowed to make any deals regarding your winnings, but as with Jordan offering to buy Jeff Bears tickets if she wins, small things like that they don't tend to care about. But "buying" a vote is problematic.

The problem is, this is a game of deception. There are no contracts in the BB house, so I don't see how Natalie could enforce the deal or how Allison could ultimately give Natalie a hard and fast answer-without saying, "Yes, you can make the deal, but, no, they don't have to keep their word." I think Jeff is going home tonight.

It never happens, but I'd really like to see people boo Natalie at the finale.
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^^^ I hope Natalie's life turns to shit after she leaves the house.
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One other thing that I hope will happen on the live show/eviction. Jeff is evicted and shown the goodbye messages.

Nat and Kev both gloat about how they lied and came up with the plan to plant the seeds of doubt to sabotage their final 4 deal and how they really never were going to be loyal to J&J. And that Michelle never really was lying to J&J and was loyal to them always. I would love to see Jeff's face.
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