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Re: Lost -- "He's Our You" -- 3/25/09
Originally Posted by GenPion
(Post 9348878)
^^ That's from the Matrix right?
I'm hoping it's more like this: All of this has happened before, and all of this will happen again... until we COURSE CORRECT and set things right. |
Re: Lost -- "He's Our You" -- 3/25/09
Remember last week's episode when Ben was leading Sun through the jungle to his boat. Well, he took off his arm wrap (on his bruised or broken arm) so that indicates that the island is healing him (again?).
Do you think the surgery that Jack did on Ben in the first season is related to Ben being shot in the heart as a kid? |
Re: Lost -- "He's Our You" -- 3/25/09
The editing makes it seem that Desmond remembered as it happened, but that can't really be, because when that happened in Island time, Desmond was only gone for a few days and we sorta know that on island time and off island time about 3 years passed.
Timeline Desmond Leaves -- Few Days Go By --- Faraday meets Desmond in the past --- 3 years go by ---- Desmond remembers the meeting. Does that make sense?
Originally Posted by cracksky
(Post 9349814)
When Faraday met Desmond, that created a new memory for Desmond. They immediately cut to when he and Penny are on the boat in 2008 and he awakes with his new memory. Did it just show up in his head or has it always been there?
We've seen many instances of time travel to the past where if the O6 hadn't been there to do something then future events wouldn't have occurred. It seems everything has already happened before. If Locke hadn't had his conversation with Richard in '54 would he have visited him as a child? Would they have buried the bomb? So, if the bomb is already buried before they go back to tell them to bury it then that's the same thing as the memory always being there. That's why Ben could have knowledge of the future. He knew Sayid. As Henry he recognized him no doubt. |
Re: Lost -- "He's Our You" -- 3/25/09
Originally Posted by TheNightFlier
(Post 9349632)
Maybe young Ben dying, let's old Ben get back to the 70s.
Originally Posted by Ephemeral_Life
(Post 9349638)
Another great episode, and I can't wait to see how they are going to fix this apparent contradiction. Of course there are plenty of time-travel theorems that could easily accommodate a person being killed in the past still existing in a future, but it doesn't gel with island mythology as we know it as this point.
Originally Posted by calhoun07
(Post 9349641)
Well, I fall on the side of the fence that the course that needs to be corrected is Ben and how badly he screwed up the island. I'd say the course is beginning to correct.
I forgot about old Ben still on the island in 2008...still that aspect to deal with. What a time paradox! Ugh. Why do I read these threads? They make my head hurt (and yes, I'm referencing your, poor redheaded Charlotte). |
Re: Lost -- "He's Our You" -- 3/25/09
As I was reminded by my wife - Let's not forget Jack is a surgeon and Juliet is also a Dr.
If there is any chance he can be saved by mortal means, the "out" is there. But Jack would have to do some serious explaining as to why he tested as a workman! |
Re: Lost -- "He's Our You" -- 3/25/09
Originally Posted by Torchur317
(Post 9349868)
Nope, not even close at all....
This has to be the worst season so far IMO.... |
Re: Lost -- "He's Our You" -- 3/25/09
Originally Posted by dvdhook
(Post 9349796)
I'm going to guess that Richard is going to find wounded Ben. Ben somehow ends up surviving the gunshot wound, which will lead Richard and his group to believe he should be their leader. Maybe by shooting Ben, Sayid set all the later events in motion.
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Re: Lost -- "He's Our You" -- 3/25/09
Originally Posted by Doug Heffernan
(Post 9350246)
As I was reminded by my wife - Let's not forget Jack is a surgeon and Juliet is also a Dr.
If there is any chance he can be saved by mortal means, the "out" is there. But Jack would have to do some serious explaining as to why he tested as a workman! It seems unlikely that young Ben will die, and I fully expect Richard to appear with some Hostile/native remedy, thus leading Ben on his path to Other leadership. |
Re: Lost -- "He's Our You" -- 3/25/09
I have a feeling young Ben is dead, the show rarely revives a character after a "holy shit" death scene.
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Re: Lost -- "He's Our You" -- 3/25/09
Originally Posted by Shilex
(Post 9350201)
Do you think the surgery that Jack did on Ben in the first season is related to Ben being shot in the heart as a kid?
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Re: Lost -- "He's Our You" -- 3/25/09
Originally Posted by RoyalTea
(Post 9350290)
was this in a flashback?
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Re: Lost -- "He's Our You" -- 3/25/09
Pretty sure it was the third season. And it wasn't a flashback.
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Re: Lost -- "He's Our You" -- 3/25/09
Best episode since The Constant IMO.
I don't see how Sayid could bring Ben closer to the Others when Ben thinks he's an Other, assuming Ben lives. But something is going to kill off the Dharma Initiative, maybe Uncle Rico and his mop. |
Re: Lost -- "He's Our You" -- 3/25/09
Originally Posted by outcastja
(Post 9350286)
I have a feeling young Ben is dead, the show rarely revives a character after a "holy shit" death scene.
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Re: Lost -- "He's Our You" -- 3/25/09
I'm kind of disappointed that Sayid killed him so unprofessionally. I expected this:
Two in the chest, one in the head. That's pretty standard. |
Re: Lost -- "He's Our You" -- 3/25/09
Originally Posted by The Bus
(Post 9350420)
Two in the chest, one in the head. That's pretty standard.
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Re: Lost -- "He's Our You" -- 3/25/09
Originally Posted by cracksky
(Post 9349855)
The barracks are a large area and when the Others have lived there they've never shown us the section where the Orientation building is near the dock. Only the living quarters with the homes and a few surrounding buildings.
The Others abandoned the barracks in 2005 and began living either at the Temple or back in tents so for 3 years no one has lived there. I don't know why they would destroy all the photos. Who cares? Something just seemed "off" during Sun's and Lapidis's scene at the barracks. The windows were boarded up. Things seemed more over grown than it should have been after a couple of years. Plus the numbers were being broadcasted during the Akira plane crash. Small clues that things are different. I hope that we are not dealing with two timelines, but it is certainly possible. |
Re: Lost -- "He's Our You" -- 3/25/09
He's not. The island will heal him just like it did Locke in S3...ironically when Ben didn't finish the job.
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Re: Lost -- "He's Our You" -- 3/25/09
Originally Posted by outcastja
(Post 9350286)
I have a feeling young Ben is dead, the show rarely revives a character after a "holy shit" death scene.
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Re: Lost -- "He's Our You" -- 3/25/09
Originally Posted by MoviePage
(Post 9350477)
Jin says hello.
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Re: Lost -- "He's Our You" -- 3/25/09
Originally Posted by MoviePage
(Post 9350477)
Jin says hello.
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Re: Lost -- "He's Our You" -- 3/25/09
And Nikki and Paulo ;)
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Re: Lost -- "He's Our You" -- 3/25/09
Originally Posted by Merkin Muffley
(Post 9350496)
And Locke.
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Re: Lost -- "He's Our You" -- 3/25/09
Originally Posted by MoviePage
(Post 9350477)
Jin says hello.
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Re: Lost -- "He's Our You" -- 3/25/09
Originally Posted by calhoun07
(Post 9349812)
Wasn't there a Twilight Zone episode like that where a woman went back in time to kill baby Hitler but her actions actually caused Hitler to live and rise to power?
Person travels back in time to kill Baby Hitler. Goes to the hitler household, kidnaps the baby, and i think drowns it in the river. The nanny/maid freaks out and kidnaps the baby of a poor family, and pretends that it is baby hitler. Then that baby is raised as the Adolph Hitler we all know. |
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