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raKim 03-29-09 07:30 PM

Re: Lost -- "He's Our You" -- 3/25/09
 

Originally Posted by Aphex Twin (Post 9356548)
I guess further evidence that the writers of Lost have no idea where the show is headed and just make up things as they go along.

Well, it's a fictional show. Isn't the point to make it up as you go? Isn't that why we watch fictional tv shows and movies and read fictional books? For made-up stories? Whether they know where it is going or not is irrelevant, they have an endgame and that is all we can wait for. It is not our place to judge how they go about telling us their story, it is our place to judge if we like the story; if we do, we keep watching, if not we don't...

Not trying to get on anyone's case...just sayin.

Jimmy James 03-29-09 07:37 PM

Re: Lost -- "He's Our You" -- 3/25/09
 

Originally Posted by calhoun07 (Post 9356606)
I never really heard if their plans for Libby got derailed for whatever reason, or if that was what they intended right away.

I believe that actress was also caught drunk driving, though it wasn't the ordeal it was for Rodriguez because I believe she had an otherwise clean record.


But it's a mistake to blame them for what you see as flaws in season two when the circumstances were beyond their control.
There are flaws in seasons two and three. These people clearly know how to tell a story when they want to. They were doing a piss poor job during parts of each of those seasons. I think it's easy to conclude that particularly during season 2, they saw a smash hit in their eyes and felt they needed to complicate the plot to drag the thing out.


Originally Posted by Wolf359 (Post 9356649)
I miss Eko too and don't understand why actors do that.

I never got to the bottom of this rumor to my satisfaction, but I think there was talk of discord between the original cast and the new additions, wasn't there?


They get a role on a popular show and then want out. I just checked IMDB and he has exactly ONE role since quitting lost. Great career move, buddy!
He's an amazing actor, so I interpret that fact differently. I am guessing he's either off doing stage acting because that's what he wants to do or else he isn't working by choice. I don't think he was such a prima donna on the set of LOST that he'd be blackballed.


I would be really interested in one day finding out just how much the writers did have planned and which things they changed. For one, it seems like the Others were very different originally from what they turned out to be. All dressed in rags and running around barefoot.
I don't trust the people behind the scenes (particularly Cuse and Lindelof) to ever be straight with us about that. There seems to be some genre-cred to having it all planned out that I'm sure they don't want to miss out on. Blame the Joss Whedon fanboys who hail Buffy. Thing is, I vastly prefer Angel, which clearly was never planned out meticulously. There's room for that in TV as well.

redrum 03-29-09 07:45 PM

Re: Lost -- "He's Our You" -- 3/25/09
 
did we ever find out what ben told kate way back when they had lunch together on the beach? i forgot.

Jimmy James 03-29-09 07:58 PM

Re: Lost -- "He's Our You" -- 3/25/09
 

Originally Posted by redrum (Post 9356710)
did we ever find out what ben told kate way back when they had lunch together on the beach? i forgot.

Not that I recall. I think that's still in the unanswered category.

GenPion 03-29-09 08:42 PM

Re: Lost -- "He's Our You" -- 3/25/09
 
^^ Very true. Unanswered question. I wonder if they will ever show us or if that's one we are simply meant to ponder over? A lot of people, I remember, thought she was told to sleep with Sawyer in order to convince Jack to do the surgery on Ben. I wonder if that's all there is to that mystery or if it's something else. Hmm....

DthRdrX 03-29-09 09:01 PM

Re: Lost -- "He's Our You" -- 3/25/09
 
They let her shower and gave her the dress so Sawyer would look at her, like he eventually did. Ben didn't tell her anything really, other than scamming her, Jack and Sawyer without them realizing it.

CharlieK 03-31-09 11:51 AM

Re: Lost -- "He's Our You" -- 3/25/09
 

Originally Posted by calhoun07 (Post 9356606)
I never really heard if their plans for Libby got derailed for whatever reason, or if that was what they intended right away.

In one of the Producers' podcasts close to Ana Lucia's death, they spoke of how Ana Lucia's character wasn't as well received as they would have liked. They planned on having Michael kill her, but were afraid that the audience would be cheering as opposed to being horrified by Michael's actions. They decided to have Michael kill Libby also to give it all more emotional weight.

So basically, Libby died because 'everyone' hated Ana Lucia.

ATX 03-31-09 12:34 PM

Re: Lost -- "He's Our You" -- 3/25/09
 

Originally Posted by charliek (Post 9360044)
in one of the producers' podcasts close to ana lucia's death, they spoke of how ana lucia's character wasn't as well received as they would have liked. They planned on having michael kill her, but were afraid that the audience would be cheering as opposed to being horrified by michael's actions. They decided to have michael kill libby also to give it all more emotional weight.

so basically, libby died because 'everyone' hated ana lucia.

lol, excellent!

calhoun07 03-31-09 05:59 PM

Re: Lost -- "He's Our You" -- 3/25/09
 

Originally Posted by CharlieK (Post 9360044)
In one of the Producers' podcasts close to Ana Lucia's death, they spoke of how Ana Lucia's character wasn't as well received as they would have liked. They planned on having Michael kill her, but were afraid that the audience would be cheering as opposed to being horrified by Michael's actions. They decided to have Michael kill Libby also to give it all more emotional weight.

So basically, Libby died because 'everyone' hated Ana Lucia.

Well, they wrote her to be unlikable, so what did they expect?

Good thing they didn't kill off two well liked regulars when they got rid of Pablo and Nikki!

aintnosin 03-31-09 06:51 PM

Re: Lost -- "He's Our You" -- 3/25/09
 

Originally Posted by calhoun07 (Post 9360825)
Good thing they didn't kill off two well liked regulars when they got rid of Pablo and Nikki!

They would have had to massacre the entire regular cast to drown out the cheering for that one...

IDrinkMolson 03-31-09 08:03 PM

Re: Lost -- "He's Our You" -- 3/25/09
 
I don't think Widmore hired the bounty hunter. Why would Widmore want Sayid to go to Guam or the island? Sayid killed all of his people. He probably wants Sayid dead. Also, how could the guy's family know Sayid killed him? No one knows that, except Ben.

I think it's a pretty sure lock that young Ben is not dead. But how?
First, how do we know it was actually young Ben that let Sayid out and ran into the jungle with him?
What if young Ben was controlling Smokey to let Sayid out. He was shocked when Sayid shot Smokey and didn't know what to do, so Smokey just laid there while Sayid ran off.

calhoun07 03-31-09 08:10 PM

Re: Lost -- "He's Our You" -- 3/25/09
 

Originally Posted by IDrinkMolson (Post 9361036)
I don't think Widmore hired the bounty hunter. Why would Widmore want Sayid to go to Guam or the island? Sayid killed all of his people. He probably wants Sayid dead. Also, how could the guy's family know Sayid killed him? No one knows that, except Ben.

I think it's a pretty sure lock that young Ben is not dead. But how?
First, how do we know it was actually young Ben that let Sayid out and ran into the jungle with him?
What if young Ben was controlling Smokey to let Sayid out. He was shocked when Sayid shot Smokey and didn't know what to do, so Smokey just laid there while Sayid ran off.

Your idea is kind of going in the right direction, but I don't know...Smokey can't be shot, dude.

We know Ben is not dead? How? For anybody who has seen a preview for this week's episode, there is a line in there that tell you how we know.

Spoiler:
Kate shouting that they are responsible for everything that happened, or something to that effect. I took that that Sayid's plan backfired.


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