Heroes -- "One Of Us, One Of Them" -- 09.29.2008
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He pretty much had most of his powers taken away from him somewhere between the end of season one, and the beginning of season two. When we first encounter him in season two, he has been completely stripped of all his powers, and doesn't really get any back until the end of the season, when he injects himself with the serum Mohinder made from Claire's blood. Then he only get's back the very first power he stole from someone, which was telekinesis. Since then, he has acquired a few more (which I forget exactly what they are at the moment), but personally, I think he's keeping those to himself until he needs to reveal them. It would give him the advantage, in that other people don't know everything else he's capable of doing.
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Now, one thing I would do is give Hiro a legit love interest. It doesn't look like the Speedster Chick will be one. Apparently Hiro suffers the "Asian Man Syndrome" popular in American films where the Asian guy -NEVER- gets the girl or any girl for that matter. Even when he found a girl, there was some fucked up reason why the relationship couldn't be and White guy got her.
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I took it as Ma Petrelli maybe led her into thinking she was going to "read" Sylar's history and ended up letting Sylar tinker with her brain. The feeding part I thought was feeding his hunger to figure out how things work and not actual feeding.
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He pretty much had most of his powers taken away from him somewhere between the end of season one, and the beginning of season two. When we first encounter him in season two, he has been completely stripped of all his powers, and doesn't really get any back until the end of the season, when he injects himself with the serum Mohinder made from Claire's blood. Then he only get's back the very first power he stole from someone, which was telekinesis. Since then, he has acquired a few more (which I forget exactly what they are at the moment), but personally, I think he's keeping those to himself until he needs to reveal them. It would give him the advantage, in that other people don't know everything else he's capable of doing.
But now that I think of it, what powers did he really get in Season 1 that were so useful? Painting the future, super hearing, liquefying metal... What else? I can't imaging those were really helpful in a hostage situation.
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I don't think that's how it went down. That illness he contracted in Season 2 just subdued his powers, not erased them. He got them back once he injected himself with the antidote. It's just poor writing (and I love this show) that they haven't had him use any of his other powers.
But now that I think of it, what powers did he really get in Season 1 that were so useful? Painting the future, super hearing, liquefying metal... What else? I can't imaging those were really helpful in a hostage situation.
But now that I think of it, what powers did he really get in Season 1 that were so useful? Painting the future, super hearing, liquefying metal... What else? I can't imaging those were really helpful in a hostage situation.
Agreed the telekinesis is the most useful in these type of situations, I would just like to see a little more out of this character.
List of powers:
Telekinesis Brian Davis "Six Months Ago"
Cryokinesis Unknown N/A
Enhanced Memory Charlie Andrews "Seven Minutes to Midnight"
Liquification Zane Taylor "Run!"
Enhanced Hearing Dale Smither "Unexpected"
Precognition
(expressed through painting) Isaac Mendez ".07%"
Radiation manipulation Ted Sprague "Landslide"
Rapid cellular regeneration Claire Bennet "The Second Coming"
Alchemy Bob Bishop "The Butterfly Effect"
Psychometry Bridget Bailey "One of Us, One of Them"
Sound manipulation Jesse Murphy "One of Us, One of Them"
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You are correct!
Agreed the telekinesis is the most useful in these type of situations, I would just like to see a little more out of this character.
List of powers:
Telekinesis Brian Davis "Six Months Ago"
Cryokinesis Unknown N/A
Enhanced Memory Charlie Andrews "Seven Minutes to Midnight"
Liquification Zane Taylor "Run!"
Enhanced Hearing Dale Smither "Unexpected"
Precognition
(expressed through painting) Isaac Mendez ".07%"
Radiation manipulation Ted Sprague "Landslide"
Rapid cellular regeneration Claire Bennet "The Second Coming"
Alchemy Bob Bishop "The Butterfly Effect"
Psychometry Bridget Bailey "One of Us, One of Them"
Sound manipulation Jesse Murphy "One of Us, One of Them"
Agreed the telekinesis is the most useful in these type of situations, I would just like to see a little more out of this character.
List of powers:
Telekinesis Brian Davis "Six Months Ago"
Cryokinesis Unknown N/A
Enhanced Memory Charlie Andrews "Seven Minutes to Midnight"
Liquification Zane Taylor "Run!"
Enhanced Hearing Dale Smither "Unexpected"
Precognition
(expressed through painting) Isaac Mendez ".07%"
Radiation manipulation Ted Sprague "Landslide"
Rapid cellular regeneration Claire Bennet "The Second Coming"
Alchemy Bob Bishop "The Butterfly Effect"
Psychometry Bridget Bailey "One of Us, One of Them"
Sound manipulation Jesse Murphy "One of Us, One of Them"
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Super hearing would be incredibly useful in a hostage situation.
How will the "feds" explain the mutilated body in the bank to the local authorities?
If Sylar's "destructive copy" ability is the source of his murderous bent, it would seem to be the only power so far with psychological side effects.
Ma Petrelli's power doesn't seem to be straight-up mind control. Sylar still seems to do what he wants. It's unclear whether she can outright order somebody to do something. As for her mysterious agenda, she's insane if she thinks she can control Sylar in the long run. Eventually he's going to take a power that makes him immune to her ability (Parkman?). Deliberately giving him extra powers makes him that much harder to bring down. An intelligence-gathering ability like that "object reading" ability she "fed" Sylar is one of the most dangerous powers Sylar has, because it makes it much easier for him to locate and hunt down his prey.
How will the "feds" explain the mutilated body in the bank to the local authorities?
If Sylar's "destructive copy" ability is the source of his murderous bent, it would seem to be the only power so far with psychological side effects.
Ma Petrelli's power doesn't seem to be straight-up mind control. Sylar still seems to do what he wants. It's unclear whether she can outright order somebody to do something. As for her mysterious agenda, she's insane if she thinks she can control Sylar in the long run. Eventually he's going to take a power that makes him immune to her ability (Parkman?). Deliberately giving him extra powers makes him that much harder to bring down. An intelligence-gathering ability like that "object reading" ability she "fed" Sylar is one of the most dangerous powers Sylar has, because it makes it much easier for him to locate and hunt down his prey.
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I dig the Tracy storyline a lot better then Nikki/Jessica. In fact, I really like how they flipped it to possibly having a bunch of clones/creations. Genetically engineered powers maybe could tie in well with the formula that Hiro is dealing with and Mohinder's work.
Sylar's stuff was ok, but I agree that more stuff with him and Noah would be nice. I think they reverted him back to just a mad killer too soon in the bank. Seemed kind of an odd change in personalities that don't make sense to me, with him being nice all of a sudden shortly after the Claire situation and now.
Parkman meeting the dude with the same vision power is kind of lame.
It was annoying as hell with them showing Peter's body the whole time when he was trapped in the other dude's outside of mirrors. Do they think the audience was too stupid to get that Peter was trapped?
Sylar's stuff was ok, but I agree that more stuff with him and Noah would be nice. I think they reverted him back to just a mad killer too soon in the bank. Seemed kind of an odd change in personalities that don't make sense to me, with him being nice all of a sudden shortly after the Claire situation and now.
Parkman meeting the dude with the same vision power is kind of lame.
It was annoying as hell with them showing Peter's body the whole time when he was trapped in the other dude's outside of mirrors. Do they think the audience was too stupid to get that Peter was trapped?
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The Mama Petrelli scene where she sacrifices the girl to Sylar was so mean-spirited. He didn't even use the power. I'll be looking forward to seeing Sylar turn on her and take her brain. Which will be nice, that whole generation of Heroes will be off the show.
Also, are we going to learn that every hero is actually part of 1 family. Let's see what we have so far... Mama Petrelli is the mother of Nathan and Peter and Sylar. Claire is the daughter of Nathan which makes her Sylar's niece.
Maybe this has been discussed before... who is Nathan and Peter's father?
Also, are we going to learn that every hero is actually part of 1 family. Let's see what we have so far... Mama Petrelli is the mother of Nathan and Peter and Sylar. Claire is the daughter of Nathan which makes her Sylar's niece.
Maybe this has been discussed before... who is Nathan and Peter's father?
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The Mama Petrelli scene where she sacrifices the girl to Sylar was so mean-spirited. He didn't even use the power. I'll be looking forward to seeing Sylar turn on her and take her brain. Which will be nice, that whole generation of Heroes will be off the show.
Also, are we going to learn that every hero is actually part of 1 family. Let's see what we have so far... Mama Petrelli is the mother of Nathan and Peter and Sylar. Claire is the daughter of Nathan which makes her Sylar's niece.
Maybe this has been discussed before... who is Nathan and Peter's father?
Also, are we going to learn that every hero is actually part of 1 family. Let's see what we have so far... Mama Petrelli is the mother of Nathan and Peter and Sylar. Claire is the daughter of Nathan which makes her Sylar's niece.
Maybe this has been discussed before... who is Nathan and Peter's father?
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I don't think that's how it went down. That illness he contracted in Season 2 just subdued his powers, not erased them. He got them back once he injected himself with the antidote. It's just poor writing (and I love this show) that they haven't had him use any of his other powers.
But now that I think of it, what powers did he really get in Season 1 that were so useful? Painting the future, super hearing, liquefying metal... What else? I can't imaging those were really helpful in a hostage situation.
But now that I think of it, what powers did he really get in Season 1 that were so useful? Painting the future, super hearing, liquefying metal... What else? I can't imaging those were really helpful in a hostage situation.
He didn't contract anything. He was purposefully injected with the virus. This much was stated in one of the episodes. Whether it subdued or erased them isn't so much the issue. He still either doesn't have them, or access to them anymore, based on the fact that we haven't seen him use any of them. Remember, he killed morphing/chameleon girl, but was never able to take her power, because his own wasn't working any more. Either way, he hasn't shown the use of any other past stolen abilities but the telekinesis since, including the ones he's gained since shooting himself up with Claire's blood.
But I will say that until the lazy writer's get around to telling/showing us exactly what's going on with him, it'll remain open to debate.
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They must keep Ali around because she's the only one willing to show off some skin. Or some other reason. EVERY single character she's played has been yawn-inducing.
Glad to see the fanboys appreciate "tight outfit" Claire and "wet" Claire. Now if we could only get "competent actress" Claire.
Glad to see the fanboys appreciate "tight outfit" Claire and "wet" Claire. Now if we could only get "competent actress" Claire.
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I guess I just don't understand the hate for this show every week. Sure it's not perfect but it's the best we got on TV regarding live action superheroes. I hoope the hate doesn't lead to more of a drop off and the networks never giving a serious "comic book" series a chance.
BTW Ma said " a dozen" escaped from level 5. I think we may see Sylar and HRG working together again.
BTW Ma said " a dozen" escaped from level 5. I think we may see Sylar and HRG working together again.
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The question about Sylar's powers has been answered by Heroes writers/producers Joe Pokaski and Aron Coliete:
SOURCE: ComicBookResources.com - Behind the Eclipse article (can't post the url due to having too few posts)
KCcat asks:
“In ‘The Second Coming,’ Sylar says to Claire, ‘You see, I lost everything that made me special. Does Sylar mean that he permanently lost all of his acquired powers except for telekinesis? Has his slate of powers been ‘wiped clean’ and does he have to start all over again? If so, then by the end of ‘The Butterfly Effect,’ it appears that he only has his telekinesis power, Claire's healing and regeneration power, and Bob's power to turn things to gold. Or am I reading into things?”
[Aron Coliete & Joe Pokaski]: Nope that’s right. Sylar’s starting over. Getting a whole new slate of powers as he goes. You can count Jesse’s voice powers into the mix as well.
“In ‘The Second Coming,’ Sylar says to Claire, ‘You see, I lost everything that made me special. Does Sylar mean that he permanently lost all of his acquired powers except for telekinesis? Has his slate of powers been ‘wiped clean’ and does he have to start all over again? If so, then by the end of ‘The Butterfly Effect,’ it appears that he only has his telekinesis power, Claire's healing and regeneration power, and Bob's power to turn things to gold. Or am I reading into things?”
[Aron Coliete & Joe Pokaski]: Nope that’s right. Sylar’s starting over. Getting a whole new slate of powers as he goes. You can count Jesse’s voice powers into the mix as well.
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Yeah the hair part made me think the same thing.
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I'm with you, but first things first. Let's get the show back on track before we nitpick performances. It's so far off the rails that Claire's acting isn't any worse than the mess they got going on. Priorities.